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**CealialactBek** · 08-11-2011, 04:01 AM

LOL how exactly is patriotism a positive ideology ? :

"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels."-- Doc Johnson (Samuel Johnson)

"A patriot is a fool in ev’ry age." – Alexander Pope.

" Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority." – Arthur Schopenhauer

Here is an interesting piece on Patriotism that is not terse like the above :

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Patriotism.shtml

i agree with schopenhauer but i strongly dissagree with the guy who wrote the article.

all these concepts like the concept of a nation have been developed with time, the concepts came from reality and not reality from the concepts, and they are usefull because they serve a purpose.
its not the nature of the concepts that is faulty (even if it can be) , its the nature of the average man who was and will allways be a sheep, and sheeps need to be in a pack.
because the real question is, "which is the best kind/type of pack?"

08-11-2011, 04:01 AM	#16
CealialactBek Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 525 Senior Member	LOL how exactly is patriotism a positive ideology ? : "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels."-- Doc Johnson (Samuel Johnson) "A patriot is a fool in ev’ry age." – Alexander Pope. " Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority." – Arthur Schopenhauer Here is an interesting piece on Patriotism that is not terse like the above : http://www.fredoneverything.net/Patriotism.shtml i agree with schopenhauer but i strongly dissagree with the guy who wrote the article. all these concepts like the concept of a nation have been developed with time, the concepts came from reality and not reality from the concepts, and they are usefull because they serve a purpose. its not the nature of the concepts that is faulty (even if it can be) , its the nature of the average man who was and will allways be a sheep, and sheeps need to be in a pack. because the real question is, "which is the best kind/type of pack?"
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