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**ErubTiereedig** · 08-11-2011, 09:17 AM

[QUOTE=JaM;464815]I can't see why I should trust a random stranger on the net, when I can just ask my Aboriginal relatives?

Who asked you to trust me? I said Listen

Yes, locally, based on derogatory labelling by the colonists. And I don't care if African Americans are "Black" so I never said that "they are Black".

Black is descriptive, not derogatory. NIGGER is derogatory

In this context, in order to be a valid global "category", it has to be applied to people who are the same in some way, such as shared origin, culture or whatever you can come up with. Otherwise it is just a colour. I don't consider "Black" a valid racial term in any case. LOL and the term black was and applied to people of a certain appearance Generally DARK. And guess what IT DID HAPPEN GLOBALLY. it Happened in India, Eastern Asia, Melanesia, Australia, Africa, The Americas. Thats pretty global.

I AM NOT Agreeing with the designation of Melanesians as black because Africans are Labeled black. AFRICA is not the benchmark for blackness, Ati (negritos) were not called little blacks because kenyans were black, They were designated as black because they bared certain characteristics, that allowed them to be designated as such. SO I have no Idea why you keep saying Melanesians are not AFricans What does that have to do with anything.

Maybe they will. At first glance, some people will probably call them Black, but don't think that American/English labels are especially valid globally. It all depends on what you mean by the label you use, so it also depends on context. The "white" people who are considered Black are not especially tanned, but still the label "black" is used. There's no "global perception" of people, but you're trying to create one, it seems.
And that label of blackness for those white people does not Exist Globally, "black" as a term for dark skinned people Has/does.

08-11-2011, 09:17 AM	#22
ErubTiereedig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 595 Senior Member	[QUOTE=JaM;464815]I can't see why I should trust a random stranger on the net, when I can just ask my Aboriginal relatives? Who asked you to trust me? I said Listen Yes, locally, based on derogatory labelling by the colonists. And I don't care if African Americans are "Black" so I never said that "they are Black". Black is descriptive, not derogatory. NIGGER is derogatory In this context, in order to be a valid global "category", it has to be applied to people who are the same in some way, such as shared origin, culture or whatever you can come up with. Otherwise it is just a colour. I don't consider "Black" a valid racial term in any case. LOL and the term black was and applied to people of a certain appearance Generally DARK. And guess what IT DID HAPPEN GLOBALLY. it Happened in India, Eastern Asia, Melanesia, Australia, Africa, The Americas. Thats pretty global. I AM NOT Agreeing with the designation of Melanesians as black because Africans are Labeled black. AFRICA is not the benchmark for blackness, Ati (negritos) were not called little blacks because kenyans were black, They were designated as black because they bared certain characteristics, that allowed them to be designated as such. SO I have no Idea why you keep saying Melanesians are not AFricans What does that have to do with anything. Maybe they will. At first glance, some people will probably call them Black, but don't think that American/English labels are especially valid globally. It all depends on what you mean by the label you use, so it also depends on context. The "white" people who are considered Black are not especially tanned, but still the label "black" is used. There's no "global perception" of people, but you're trying to create one, it seems. And that label of blackness for those white people does not Exist Globally, "black" as a term for dark skinned people Has/does.
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