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**fudelholf** · 08-12-2011, 07:21 AM

more bullshit and denial from you, get over it you're wrong about every point here.
E1b1b in west-eurasia IS evidence of admixture, thats fact whether you like it or not, because it has a very recent appearance in europe compared to africa and is downstreams derived.

and its not just about phenotype, but also the fact that the "west-eurasians" that have features that resemble africans do in fact cluster closer to those africans compared to pure south indians & east-asians. so dont give me the natural diversity excuse, its false.

^I agree that white people's afros and flat nose means E1b1b in europe should be evidence of admixture going by Falsetruth's logic

lol if you where face to face with me now i would ragdoll you.

E1b1b in west asia came from egypt so when it entered it was from caucasoid people, and further if you go back to the origin, E is euroasian anyway, so there is no reason to believe that people with E1b1b lineages has ever had a black ancestor.

E1b1 might(and might not have) have originated in the geographic area of the horn but mdoern horners are admxied anyway so theya re not representative of the population in which E1b1 originated in either case.

and about your pics, i already explained the difference, west euroasians do not show any affinity to sub saharan people like west africans so there is no reason to believe that those features you show is because of black admixture, never mind the fact that sub sahran admixture in europe is VERY low and E haplogroups is extremely low as well.
in comparison, foreign y-dna like T and J in east africa are quite high in frequency and we already know that east africans cluster in the middle of euroasians and west africans both genetically and in phenotype.

so its not the same, also curly hair and a nose like her are not african traits, that girl looks finnish so maybe she has asian ancestry.

08-12-2011, 07:21 AM	#27
fudelholf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 571 Senior Member	more bullshit and denial from you, get over it you're wrong about every point here. E1b1b in west-eurasia IS evidence of admixture, thats fact whether you like it or not, because it has a very recent appearance in europe compared to africa and is downstreams derived. and its not just about phenotype, but also the fact that the "west-eurasians" that have features that resemble africans do in fact cluster closer to those africans compared to pure south indians & east-asians. so dont give me the natural diversity excuse, its false. ^I agree that white people's afros and flat nose means E1b1b in europe should be evidence of admixture going by Falsetruth's logic lol if you where face to face with me now i would ragdoll you. E1b1b in west asia came from egypt so when it entered it was from caucasoid people, and further if you go back to the origin, E is euroasian anyway, so there is no reason to believe that people with E1b1b lineages has ever had a black ancestor. E1b1 might(and might not have) have originated in the geographic area of the horn but mdoern horners are admxied anyway so theya re not representative of the population in which E1b1 originated in either case. and about your pics, i already explained the difference, west euroasians do not show any affinity to sub saharan people like west africans so there is no reason to believe that those features you show is because of black admixture, never mind the fact that sub sahran admixture in europe is VERY low and E haplogroups is extremely low as well. in comparison, foreign y-dna like T and J in east africa are quite high in frequency and we already know that east africans cluster in the middle of euroasians and west africans both genetically and in phenotype. so its not the same, also curly hair and a nose like her are not african traits, that girl looks finnish so maybe she has asian ancestry.
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