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**UtidaBrar** · 09-13-2010, 06:31 PM

Last but not least, converts (to Yahadut rabbanit) don't really get to be considered Jewish.

I don't think that's true, I've heard many Orthodox Rabbis say that a convert is just as Jewish as the real Jew, something about the person being born with a Jewish soul but not within a Jewish family.

I also heard that the reason why you're a Jew if your mother is a Jew is because back in the day (When there was no genetic tests), they knew 100% who your mother was since you come out of her, but with your father it's an assumption that he is the father, one can never be 100% sure with the paternal side.

Me personally? I think Judaism is more of a religion than an ethnic group, not that there are no real Jews out there, but the fact that you allow people of total different heritage to convert and become Jews right off the bat allows the gene pool to be mixed, which makes the definition of ethnic group rather difficult, you also cannot say that these people are never Jewish because the reality is, those who convert and actually live up to it become real Jews and start marrying Jews, which they pass their genes to the real Jews.

09-13-2010, 06:31 PM	#17
UtidaBrar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 466 Senior Member	Last but not least, converts (to Yahadut rabbanit) don't really get to be considered Jewish. I don't think that's true, I've heard many Orthodox Rabbis say that a convert is just as Jewish as the real Jew, something about the person being born with a Jewish soul but not within a Jewish family. I also heard that the reason why you're a Jew if your mother is a Jew is because back in the day (When there was no genetic tests), they knew 100% who your mother was since you come out of her, but with your father it's an assumption that he is the father, one can never be 100% sure with the paternal side. Me personally? I think Judaism is more of a religion than an ethnic group, not that there are no real Jews out there, but the fact that you allow people of total different heritage to convert and become Jews right off the bat allows the gene pool to be mixed, which makes the definition of ethnic group rather difficult, you also cannot say that these people are never Jewish because the reality is, those who convert and actually live up to it become real Jews and start marrying Jews, which they pass their genes to the real Jews.
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