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**inilbowly** · 09-15-2010, 11:36 PM

I don't see how it is off-topic. I've noticed some of the most ardent Chinese nationalists are 1.5 or 2nd-generation immigrants to the West who are Westernized to varying degrees. I think it's rather odd for these people to be talking about Mainland China in terms of 'us' and 'we', when the vast majority of them would be viewed as foreigners there, especially from the moment they open their mouths.

I think its partially because of the racism they face in America, and partially because of they way they were taught by their parents. I use we/us when referring to both America and China because I identify as a Chinese American. Why is it odd that I view China on the same level as America, I lived about half my life in China and half my life in American and I love both countries. And no, I wouldn't be considered an outsider in either country because I don't have an accent speaking English or Chinese.

---------- Post added 2010-09-15 at 15:37 ----------

No that is not what I meant.

What I meant was that the U.s. a true "Super Power" would never tolerate a situation on its Northern border (which is also largely flat prairie land) that China had to deal with over and over again for a few thousand years.

I didn't mean Chinese went to Canada.

I'm aware of Zhenghe's voyage, but I don't believe that book 1492, then again a lot of records were destroyed, who knows...I doubt it. Chinese were not "open sea" people they hugged the coasts.

lol you did write this though:

"It was not until the Ming Dynasty that CHina had ocean going vessels that left East and Southeast Asia and made it to the Middle East and Canada, the largest extent of any Chinese empire was by the Mongols into Kyrgyzstan and into Siberia and the Russian Fareast...the Han did not do that, they were led to do that."

09-15-2010, 11:36 PM	#26
inilbowly Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 497 Senior Member	I don't see how it is off-topic. I've noticed some of the most ardent Chinese nationalists are 1.5 or 2nd-generation immigrants to the West who are Westernized to varying degrees. I think it's rather odd for these people to be talking about Mainland China in terms of 'us' and 'we', when the vast majority of them would be viewed as foreigners there, especially from the moment they open their mouths. I think its partially because of the racism they face in America, and partially because of they way they were taught by their parents. I use we/us when referring to both America and China because I identify as a Chinese American. Why is it odd that I view China on the same level as America, I lived about half my life in China and half my life in American and I love both countries. And no, I wouldn't be considered an outsider in either country because I don't have an accent speaking English or Chinese. ---------- Post added 2010-09-15 at 15:37 ---------- No that is not what I meant. What I meant was that the U.s. a true "Super Power" would never tolerate a situation on its Northern border (which is also largely flat prairie land) that China had to deal with over and over again for a few thousand years. I didn't mean Chinese went to Canada. I'm aware of Zhenghe's voyage, but I don't believe that book 1492, then again a lot of records were destroyed, who knows...I doubt it. Chinese were not "open sea" people they hugged the coasts. lol you did write this though: "It was not until the Ming Dynasty that CHina had ocean going vessels that left East and Southeast Asia and made it to the Middle East and Canada, the largest extent of any Chinese empire was by the Mongols into Kyrgyzstan and into Siberia and the Russian Fareast...the Han did not do that, they were led to do that."
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