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**TeveVikep** · 09-15-2010, 11:40 PM

Less than half the people in America identify was English LOL...

Nations evolve idiot. Could a Catholic be a Prime Minister of the UK 500 years ago? Tony Blair was not a true Prime Minister right?

Blair only officially became a Catholic once he left office.

Could person with an obvious Irish name (John Lennon) be called an ENglishman? I've never heard him referred to as an Irishman, although his name is quite clear.

He was not English.

Nations change, culture is fluid, not stagnant.

Franklin also said Germans were not white.

They werne't, in the context of the time, in the same way English people are. Today everyone's White in most people's eyes.

Are people with the last name Bauer real Americans??? We have a lot of them...we have had presidents with GErman and Dutch names were they Americans? Franklin thought they were not only not true Americans but not "white" like him.

No, they're immigrants too.

You want to keep using 18th century ideas and rational for the 21st century???

Yes because its what I believe, religious people regularly use millenia old ideas and rational to justify what they do in the 21st century.

As I said if most Americans thought like this Barak Obama could not be president, his father was an African Muslim. I doubt Ben Franklin would have approved...however polls after the election showed most white Americans approved and almost half voted for him.

Can't argue against that, America isn't the society it was 200 years ago, nor is England, but that doesn't mean the people today are right and their ancestors were stupid or wrong (that's what's implied by people who say- oh that's an old opinion).

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TeveVikep Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 483 Senior Member	Less than half the people in America identify was English LOL... Nations evolve idiot. Could a Catholic be a Prime Minister of the UK 500 years ago? Tony Blair was not a true Prime Minister right? Blair only officially became a Catholic once he left office. Could person with an obvious Irish name (John Lennon) be called an ENglishman? I've never heard him referred to as an Irishman, although his name is quite clear. He was not English. Nations change, culture is fluid, not stagnant. Franklin also said Germans were not white. They werne't, in the context of the time, in the same way English people are. Today everyone's White in most people's eyes. Are people with the last name Bauer real Americans??? We have a lot of them...we have had presidents with GErman and Dutch names were they Americans? Franklin thought they were not only not true Americans but not "white" like him. No, they're immigrants too. You want to keep using 18th century ideas and rational for the 21st century??? Yes because its what I believe, religious people regularly use millenia old ideas and rational to justify what they do in the 21st century. As I said if most Americans thought like this Barak Obama could not be president, his father was an African Muslim. I doubt Ben Franklin would have approved...however polls after the election showed most white Americans approved and almost half voted for him. Can't argue against that, America isn't the society it was 200 years ago, nor is England, but that doesn't mean the people today are right and their ancestors were stupid or wrong (that's what's implied by people who say- oh that's an old opinion).
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