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**EarnestKS** · 09-10-2010, 07:17 AM

Huh?

Black people have their own African or Jamaican inspired accent the same way Pakistanis have their own Pakistani inspired accent. In fact Muslims generally copy black trends.

Black people, for the most part, live in neighbourhoods consisting mainly of other black people, as do Pakistanis, Bangladeshis etc.

I'm not hating on black people here at all, but statistics show that Afro-Caribbeans are the likeliest to commit crime. The most logical way to explain this is that there exists a culture clash.

It is true black people are better integrated however Muslims have been in the country for much less time and the conditions in which they arrived to the country are very different. This is similar to a third-gen Jamaican being more successfully integrated than a first generation African that has been living in England for 30 years.

Islam is, indeed, also a reason for black people being better integrated. Because Muslims arrive in England with, most of the time, a very conservative attitude and they are afraid of integrating but I disagree on the subject that they believe the world revolves around them, that occurs with every kind of person if you hold their rights above others'.

Just look at out marriage rates, that is the best way to show integration in most nations when the population you are talking about is a real immigrant community.

Afro-Caribbeans men marry out at about 50%, women about 30%.

With Africans it is lower, however Africans (not including Somalis) are wealthier and less crime prone because they come to the country or did come with more education than Afro-Caribbeans (who like Pakistanis) came as cheap labor.

Judging by the states the from England and Wales Statistic office, which can be found on line, the "black" population (especially Afro-Caribbean) will disappear in the next 3 generations.

The Muslim one will not.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1090

Black carribean
male - 29%
female - 20%

Black African
male - 18%
female - 15%

Other Black
male - 48%
female - 34%

I imagine SubSaharan African E is the fastest spreading nonNative Y Haplogroup in the UK. haha

Anyway my numbers above were exaggerated, but this is still high...compared with Pakistanis

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/images/charts/1090a.gif

They barely marry out, men or women. Bangladeshis are worse.

It appears people already "mixed" almost always don;t marry someone else who is mixed. haha, not shocking I guess.

09-10-2010, 07:17 AM	#11
EarnestKS Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 525 Senior Member	Huh? Black people have their own African or Jamaican inspired accent the same way Pakistanis have their own Pakistani inspired accent. In fact Muslims generally copy black trends. Black people, for the most part, live in neighbourhoods consisting mainly of other black people, as do Pakistanis, Bangladeshis etc. I'm not hating on black people here at all, but statistics show that Afro-Caribbeans are the likeliest to commit crime. The most logical way to explain this is that there exists a culture clash. It is true black people are better integrated however Muslims have been in the country for much less time and the conditions in which they arrived to the country are very different. This is similar to a third-gen Jamaican being more successfully integrated than a first generation African that has been living in England for 30 years. Islam is, indeed, also a reason for black people being better integrated. Because Muslims arrive in England with, most of the time, a very conservative attitude and they are afraid of integrating but I disagree on the subject that they believe the world revolves around them, that occurs with every kind of person if you hold their rights above others'. Just look at out marriage rates, that is the best way to show integration in most nations when the population you are talking about is a real immigrant community. Afro-Caribbeans men marry out at about 50%, women about 30%. With Africans it is lower, however Africans (not including Somalis) are wealthier and less crime prone because they come to the country or did come with more education than Afro-Caribbeans (who like Pakistanis) came as cheap labor. Judging by the states the from England and Wales Statistic office, which can be found on line, the "black" population (especially Afro-Caribbean) will disappear in the next 3 generations. The Muslim one will not. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1090 Black carribean male - 29% female - 20% Black African male - 18% female - 15% Other Black male - 48% female - 34% I imagine SubSaharan African E is the fastest spreading nonNative Y Haplogroup in the UK. haha Anyway my numbers above were exaggerated, but this is still high...compared with Pakistanis http://www.statistics.gov.uk/images/charts/1090a.gif They barely marry out, men or women. Bangladeshis are worse. It appears people already "mixed" almost always don;t marry someone else who is mixed. haha, not shocking I guess.
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