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**Gvadelunar** · 08-25-2010, 04:57 AM

There are major, major linguistic differences between Chinese and "Modern English". Don, you are correct. Chinese is an ancient language; it relatively remains unchanging within its linguistic structure. Amerikanized-English, on the other hand, is the exact opposite. It changes very, very fast.

For example: "hi lul, how r u 2day? me im gud, wut r u doin l8r?"

Amerikanized-English suffers "phonetic shifts" unlike any other modernized language. This is why Amerikanized-English is so difficult to learn for "outsiders" or "non-native English speakers".

As most probably know… Amerikanized-English (the Amerikan Empire) is derived from "Old English" (the British Empire), derived from Latin (the Roman Empire), derived from the Greek Alpha-Beta… language is an extension of militaristic, cultural, and civil progress.

So, the point is this: Amerikanized-English, and its nature to change & adapt very quickly, is very good in some aspects. Also, Ancient Chinese, and its nature to resist change, and maintain consistency in linguistic structure, is very good in other aspects. Each language has its own advantages & disadvantages.

Now, China and Amerika are the world's leading Economic Superpowers. So it makes common-sense why so many people (including EVERY MEMBER on this forum) understands spoken or written-English. But, China has yet to assert itself as a world "Superpower". It is an "Isolationist" country/entity just as USA used to be. This is not true today. It has yet to be determined whether China will influence or dictate world affairs, as Amerikan military power can & does (when backed by Neo-conservative politicking). One possibility is that China will instigate (and win) international trade wars (as they already have been doing).

If that happens then you can rest-assured that more than the already 1000000000 people will be speaking Chinese, or at least, some form of it, as a language…

Even a few years ago, within my own studies, I contemplated undertaking such a project myself (of merging Chinese and English linguistic sub-structures). But that obviously takes a lot of time, effort, knowledge, and devotion to linguistics… (time that I simply do not have right now).

1. That has nothing to do with language structure, but an easy quick way to type characters in your mobile phone.

2. All languages (all speakers) can adapt to new circumstances.

3. I wonder how the European Union, which is an economic superpower too, will solve its language diversity.

4. There are other languages/regions to take into account, I think. South America and Spanish/Portuguese. Africa and English/French/Arabic, all of them official in most of African countries. Bear in mind that English is an official language in India. Russian and Russia/Slavic Europe.

5. Language mixing (creolization, pidgins) are rare and only occur when at last two extremely different linguistic communities share a place. I can't imagine how such a thing would take place in the xxi century between English and Chinese.

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I think we will all end up speaking Spanish.

Look at in the U.S where spanish language is assimilating us instead of us assimilasting them to English.

Spanish is really one of the most simple languages to learn in the world. So therefor it makes it likely to spread.

I think Chinese is so hard & outdated that overtime they will likely adopt more & more European languages.
Especially as they do more business with us.

But, the U.S seems to be assimilating to Spanish. China is doing business with the U.S.

Many Hispanics can't speak Spanish. They're basically third or fourth generation Americans. Many just speak Spanglish, Spanish with lots of English words and expressions. The next stage for the latter and their children is full assimilation into the dominant linguistic community: English speakers.

08-25-2010, 04:57 AM	#24
Gvadelunar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	There are major, major linguistic differences between Chinese and "Modern English". Don, you are correct. Chinese is an ancient language; it relatively remains unchanging within its linguistic structure. Amerikanized-English, on the other hand, is the exact opposite. It changes very, very fast. For example: "hi lul, how r u 2day? me im gud, wut r u doin l8r?" Amerikanized-English suffers "phonetic shifts" unlike any other modernized language. This is why Amerikanized-English is so difficult to learn for "outsiders" or "non-native English speakers". As most probably know… Amerikanized-English (the Amerikan Empire) is derived from "Old English" (the British Empire), derived from Latin (the Roman Empire), derived from the Greek Alpha-Beta… language is an extension of militaristic, cultural, and civil progress. So, the point is this: Amerikanized-English, and its nature to change & adapt very quickly, is very good in some aspects. Also, Ancient Chinese, and its nature to resist change, and maintain consistency in linguistic structure, is very good in other aspects. Each language has its own advantages & disadvantages. Now, China and Amerika are the world's leading Economic Superpowers. So it makes common-sense why so many people (including EVERY MEMBER on this forum) understands spoken or written-English. But, China has yet to assert itself as a world "Superpower". It is an "Isolationist" country/entity just as USA used to be. This is not true today. It has yet to be determined whether China will influence or dictate world affairs, as Amerikan military power can & does (when backed by Neo-conservative politicking). One possibility is that China will instigate (and win) international trade wars (as they already have been doing). If that happens then you can rest-assured that more than the already 1000000000 people will be speaking Chinese, or at least, some form of it, as a language… Even a few years ago, within my own studies, I contemplated undertaking such a project myself (of merging Chinese and English linguistic sub-structures). But that obviously takes a lot of time, effort, knowledge, and devotion to linguistics… (time that I simply do not have right now). 1. That has nothing to do with language structure, but an easy quick way to type characters in your mobile phone. 2. All languages (all speakers) can adapt to new circumstances. 3. I wonder how the European Union, which is an economic superpower too, will solve its language diversity. 4. There are other languages/regions to take into account, I think. South America and Spanish/Portuguese. Africa and English/French/Arabic, all of them official in most of African countries. Bear in mind that English is an official language in India. Russian and Russia/Slavic Europe. 5. Language mixing (creolization, pidgins) are rare and only occur when at last two extremely different linguistic communities share a place. I can't imagine how such a thing would take place in the xxi century between English and Chinese. ---------- Post added 2010-08-24 at 23:01 ---------- I think we will all end up speaking Spanish. Look at in the U.S where spanish language is assimilating us instead of us assimilasting them to English. Spanish is really one of the most simple languages to learn in the world. So therefor it makes it likely to spread. I think Chinese is so hard & outdated that overtime they will likely adopt more & more European languages. Especially as they do more business with us. But, the U.S seems to be assimilating to Spanish. China is doing business with the U.S. Many Hispanics can't speak Spanish. They're basically third or fourth generation Americans. Many just speak Spanglish, Spanish with lots of English words and expressions. The next stage for the latter and their children is full assimilation into the dominant linguistic community: English speakers.
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