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**agrismhig** · 08-01-2012, 07:17 AM

And they will tell you that stoning was in the Old Testament (Torah/Tawrat)

Which was under a different covenant than the New Testament (Gospels/Injills)

And that Jesus (Isa) stopped the stoning of the woman accused of adultery in the Bible.

As an example of the new covenant that Christians are now under which doesn't allow stoning.

Yeah but there is evidence (very STRONG) evidence to suggest that the story regarding Isa

and the woman to be stoned was actually an interpolation that wasn't originally in the Gospel but regardless, the questions I always ask them is:

1. Do you not believe the Old Testament and the Covenant was from God (even if you think it is no longer valid)? They will say, YES
2. Then, was stoning a punishment that God had commanded to the Jews at the time, even if it was a punishment that was only meant to be valid for a certain period of time? They have to say YES
3. Then, was God commanding a barbaric act? They have to say NO
4. Then why is it different if we believe in stoning? Why is it barbaric when we believe in it but not barbaric when you believe that God commanded it? End result- confused Christian

But I don't normally talk about this since most people in the UK aren't Christian. Ask them, as bro Ansari mentioned, what constitutes 'barbaric' and prove that such a term is subjective and the only way to objectively prove something is to establish what God says regarding the matter.

08-01-2012, 07:17 AM	#10
agrismhig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 551 Senior Member	And they will tell you that stoning was in the Old Testament (Torah/Tawrat) Which was under a different covenant than the New Testament (Gospels/Injills) And that Jesus (Isa) stopped the stoning of the woman accused of adultery in the Bible. As an example of the new covenant that Christians are now under which doesn't allow stoning. Yeah but there is evidence (very STRONG) evidence to suggest that the story regarding Isa and the woman to be stoned was actually an interpolation that wasn't originally in the Gospel but regardless, the questions I always ask them is: 1. Do you not believe the Old Testament and the Covenant was from God (even if you think it is no longer valid)? They will say, YES 2. Then, was stoning a punishment that God had commanded to the Jews at the time, even if it was a punishment that was only meant to be valid for a certain period of time? They have to say YES 3. Then, was God commanding a barbaric act? They have to say NO 4. Then why is it different if we believe in stoning? Why is it barbaric when we believe in it but not barbaric when you believe that God commanded it? End result- confused Christian But I don't normally talk about this since most people in the UK aren't Christian. Ask them, as bro Ansari mentioned, what constitutes 'barbaric' and prove that such a term is subjective and the only way to objectively prove something is to establish what God says regarding the matter.
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