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**Binuilienzync** · 07-09-2012, 01:36 PM

Thank you brother maripat for your blog post, it is concise and brilliant. i also want to ask, how should ones attitude be towards this person ? some of his statement may appear provacative so should we respond in what manner? or should we even respond at all . ? Also being an arab scholar or a sayyiddi, does that make one better than non arab/sayyiddi scholars?

As pointed out by brother UserInvalid we lay people can leave the matter to scholars like Allamah Khalid Mahmood (db) and Mufti Ebrahim Desai (db). Since Shaikh Laraki is a scholar our words are not effective except for the sentimental value.

The 'Arab angle is interesting one. Because of recent past history of 'Arabs, say, hundred years or so, it is imperative that they wake up from their slumber and continue the task for which Allah (SWT) had honoured them with. And the task is Dawah of Islam. When you take a break from your duty (and perhaps indulge in indecencies like nationalism) and then you wake up. And further you realize that some else did not go to sleep and has been on guard duty, like the people of a village called Deoband, then it for sure is an inconvenient situation. Salafism is a poor substitute for the duty that was ignored for hundreds of years.

Assertion on part of Shaikh Laraki is slightly better than Salafist response. May he continue his work and may Allah (SWT) provide barakah in that. On our part may be we can assert that we have sacrificed a country called Afghanistan and nearly sacrificed another one called Pakistan. In the sacrifice of Iraq the Islamic angle was not that strong.

I have to again gyrate towards TJ. Christianity has that macabre history of crusades and if Bush blurted the word crusade then let us give full credit that he did not know the meaning. Still this leaves us with one irrefutable evidence that this word was taken by him from the existing vocabulary. Crusading mentality is still there in the Christian world even if it has got buried at the sub-conscious level. The burial is no consolation because their actions remain motivated and intentional - psychology tells us that much. This is what was manifesting itself before and around 1857 when Mughal Empire was liquidated finally. Let us get it clear - Mughal Empire was Muslim, not Islamic. But British were too aware that the source strength is Islam itself and they had all the intention to destroy the seed. There is a branch of academics called Orientalism. This was all about giving Islam that drubbing, after the physical subjugation of half a dozen Muslim empires, that will reduce it to non-entity. Remember Jamia Al-Azhar has long back become just another university - trying to be like Ox-bridge the concept was ironically inspired by Al-Azhar.

I'll summarize British had physically subjugated Muslims of India (Ind-Pak-BD) and intellectually had taken very robust steps to decimate Islam. They also had taken the steps, under the infamous divide and rule paradigm, to pity the numerical majority of Hindus against the erstwhile ruling Muslim community. The situation for Muslims a hundred and fifty years back was rather dire. We can imagine the situation of Muslims of Syria today or those of Bosnia a decade or so ago but we do take the situation of Muslims 150 years ago fro granted. This is the situation in which that then tiny village exerted itself - first physically and then by Madarsa education for which it is known.

Shaikh Laraki could have said, "Dear scholars of Deoband kindly pay some attention to the serious problem of salvation non-Muslims of SA and UK". That would have been much better. He is not only our brother in Islam but a scholar also so I'll not suggest even in my dreams that he had name and fame in his mind while posting that assertion on FB but I do feel that he could have adopted a better approach as, for example, above.

07-09-2012, 01:36 PM	#29
Binuilienzync Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	Thank you brother maripat for your blog post, it is concise and brilliant. i also want to ask, how should ones attitude be towards this person ? some of his statement may appear provacative so should we respond in what manner? or should we even respond at all . ? Also being an arab scholar or a sayyiddi, does that make one better than non arab/sayyiddi scholars? As pointed out by brother UserInvalid we lay people can leave the matter to scholars like Allamah Khalid Mahmood (db) and Mufti Ebrahim Desai (db). Since Shaikh Laraki is a scholar our words are not effective except for the sentimental value. The 'Arab angle is interesting one. Because of recent past history of 'Arabs, say, hundred years or so, it is imperative that they wake up from their slumber and continue the task for which Allah (SWT) had honoured them with. And the task is Dawah of Islam. When you take a break from your duty (and perhaps indulge in indecencies like nationalism) and then you wake up. And further you realize that some else did not go to sleep and has been on guard duty, like the people of a village called Deoband, then it for sure is an inconvenient situation. Salafism is a poor substitute for the duty that was ignored for hundreds of years. Assertion on part of Shaikh Laraki is slightly better than Salafist response. May he continue his work and may Allah (SWT) provide barakah in that. On our part may be we can assert that we have sacrificed a country called Afghanistan and nearly sacrificed another one called Pakistan. In the sacrifice of Iraq the Islamic angle was not that strong. I have to again gyrate towards TJ. Christianity has that macabre history of crusades and if Bush blurted the word crusade then let us give full credit that he did not know the meaning. Still this leaves us with one irrefutable evidence that this word was taken by him from the existing vocabulary. Crusading mentality is still there in the Christian world even if it has got buried at the sub-conscious level. The burial is no consolation because their actions remain motivated and intentional - psychology tells us that much. This is what was manifesting itself before and around 1857 when Mughal Empire was liquidated finally. Let us get it clear - Mughal Empire was Muslim, not Islamic. But British were too aware that the source strength is Islam itself and they had all the intention to destroy the seed. There is a branch of academics called Orientalism. This was all about giving Islam that drubbing, after the physical subjugation of half a dozen Muslim empires, that will reduce it to non-entity. Remember Jamia Al-Azhar has long back become just another university - trying to be like Ox-bridge the concept was ironically inspired by Al-Azhar. I'll summarize British had physically subjugated Muslims of India (Ind-Pak-BD) and intellectually had taken very robust steps to decimate Islam. They also had taken the steps, under the infamous divide and rule paradigm, to pity the numerical majority of Hindus against the erstwhile ruling Muslim community. The situation for Muslims a hundred and fifty years back was rather dire. We can imagine the situation of Muslims of Syria today or those of Bosnia a decade or so ago but we do take the situation of Muslims 150 years ago fro granted. This is the situation in which that then tiny village exerted itself - first physically and then by Madarsa education for which it is known. Shaikh Laraki could have said, "Dear scholars of Deoband kindly pay some attention to the serious problem of salvation non-Muslims of SA and UK". That would have been much better. He is not only our brother in Islam but a scholar also so I'll not suggest even in my dreams that he had name and fame in his mind while posting that assertion on FB but I do feel that he could have adopted a better approach as, for example, above.
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