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**Valdoyes** · 10-28-2011, 08:05 PM

It absolutely has a place. Nurture and discsipline are not exclusive of each other. In fact they must go together. Spare the rod spoil the child if I remember my Psalm correctly or was that Proverbs? Teachers are very limited in what they can do to discsipline. They end up sending them to the Principal's office...oooooooo. They can't do anythign either. That's why school districts now have their own police force. SCHOOL DISTRICTS!

Bring back the paddle, Let teachers have some actual authority.

Good teachers do have actual authority and they can establish it without resorting to violence. Some people think fondly of the old days of paddles and switches as if the schools and society didn't have any problems back then. Come on.

Whatever we might think about them, the laws aren't going to change. Simply throwing your arms up, quoting Proverbs, and saying, "if only we could beat our kids again!" is unhelpful for the OP.

I knew a Subdeacon also a history teacher that told a young girl he was going to give her a zero on a test becuase she refused to take the test. She threw a desk at him then proceeded to beat the daylights out of him. All he could do was yell for someone to get her off him. He had no authority to defend himself against her. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. Self-defense and discipline are separate issues. There are some kids who will not be taught and whose needs are probably not going to be addressed in a regular classroom.

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Valdoyes Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 471 Senior Member	It absolutely has a place. Nurture and discsipline are not exclusive of each other. In fact they must go together. Spare the rod spoil the child if I remember my Psalm correctly or was that Proverbs? Teachers are very limited in what they can do to discsipline. They end up sending them to the Principal's office...oooooooo. They can't do anythign either. That's why school districts now have their own police force. SCHOOL DISTRICTS! Bring back the paddle, Let teachers have some actual authority. Good teachers do have actual authority and they can establish it without resorting to violence. Some people think fondly of the old days of paddles and switches as if the schools and society didn't have any problems back then. Come on. Whatever we might think about them, the laws aren't going to change. Simply throwing your arms up, quoting Proverbs, and saying, "if only we could beat our kids again!" is unhelpful for the OP. I knew a Subdeacon also a history teacher that told a young girl he was going to give her a zero on a test becuase she refused to take the test. She threw a desk at him then proceeded to beat the daylights out of him. All he could do was yell for someone to get her off him. He had no authority to defend himself against her. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. Self-defense and discipline are separate issues. There are some kids who will not be taught and whose needs are probably not going to be addressed in a regular classroom.
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