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**jobsfancy** · 08-03-2012, 03:25 PM

Thx Janedele, & welcome to GSUS

I'm guessing you're practicing Mormon? I failed to mention, I lived a year in Central Utah during high school, and recall the SLC, Provo, Ogden etc scenes well, from my occasional outings to the BIG CITY! And the terrific National Parks there, too.

I didn't make my way to ZION NP though, I'm afraid.

Any remarks on Gaillo's observations?

I've lived near Mormons for almost my entire life, and I can tell you that several points in your post, while not entirely false, are a bit "off" from the truth.

1) As others have correctly pointed out, blacks were suddenly "in" in 1972 after a "revelation". At this point, they actively recruit members from black nations and areas, particularly Polynesian and African.

2) Mormons are, indeed, over-represented in the alphabet soup agencies, PARTICULARLY the FBI, which has the highest Mormon population of any federal agency. However, the reason for this is not loyalty to Israel (although that might be part of it) but rather the nature of Mormon culture. They're taught early in their lives to respect and obey authority without question, and their tight-knit family/community structure makes background checks easy and trouble-free to pass. They are considered "model agents" due to their clean-shaven, non-drinking, non-smoking, non-gambling "family man" values. Also, their requirement to go on a church "mission" requires most of them to learn at least one additional language, which fed agencies find to be a valuable bonus.

3) The Mormon church has downplayed the importance of food storage and self-sufficiency BIG TIME in the last few decades... It used to be a 2-year supply, then 1-year, then 6-months, then hardly mentioned. In fact, I've heard it "through the grapevine" in the last few years that heavy prepping is being investigated by the bishops (local church leaders) and that Mormons who continue such endeavors are actually being reprimanded and told to ease up so as not to cause "problems" in their local communities. Don't know the truth of the matter, I'm NOT Mormon, but this is what I've heard from some who are.

4) You're correct about the 10% tithing bit... it is VERY important to them, and I've heard a great many stories about how the bishops reprimand followers who don't "cough up the dough". They also often ask (can't legally require, though...) for the member's tax returns, so they can verify no "cheating" is occurring.

I'm pretty sure there are 1 or 2 Mormon members at GS-US, I welcome any corrections or additions to the above from them.

08-03-2012, 03:25 PM	#26
jobsfancy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	Thx Janedele, & welcome to GSUS I'm guessing you're practicing Mormon? I failed to mention, I lived a year in Central Utah during high school, and recall the SLC, Provo, Ogden etc scenes well, from my occasional outings to the BIG CITY! And the terrific National Parks there, too. I didn't make my way to ZION NP though, I'm afraid. Any remarks on Gaillo's observations? I've lived near Mormons for almost my entire life, and I can tell you that several points in your post, while not entirely false, are a bit "off" from the truth. 1) As others have correctly pointed out, blacks were suddenly "in" in 1972 after a "revelation". At this point, they actively recruit members from black nations and areas, particularly Polynesian and African. 2) Mormons are, indeed, over-represented in the alphabet soup agencies, PARTICULARLY the FBI, which has the highest Mormon population of any federal agency. However, the reason for this is not loyalty to Israel (although that might be part of it) but rather the nature of Mormon culture. They're taught early in their lives to respect and obey authority without question, and their tight-knit family/community structure makes background checks easy and trouble-free to pass. They are considered "model agents" due to their clean-shaven, non-drinking, non-smoking, non-gambling "family man" values. Also, their requirement to go on a church "mission" requires most of them to learn at least one additional language, which fed agencies find to be a valuable bonus. 3) The Mormon church has downplayed the importance of food storage and self-sufficiency BIG TIME in the last few decades... It used to be a 2-year supply, then 1-year, then 6-months, then hardly mentioned. In fact, I've heard it "through the grapevine" in the last few years that heavy prepping is being investigated by the bishops (local church leaders) and that Mormons who continue such endeavors are actually being reprimanded and told to ease up so as not to cause "problems" in their local communities. Don't know the truth of the matter, I'm NOT Mormon, but this is what I've heard from some who are. 4) You're correct about the 10% tithing bit... it is VERY important to them, and I've heard a great many stories about how the bishops reprimand followers who don't "cough up the dough". They also often ask (can't legally require, though...) for the member's tax returns, so they can verify no "cheating" is occurring. I'm pretty sure there are 1 or 2 Mormon members at GS-US, I welcome any corrections or additions to the above from them.
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