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**id2008** · 07-20-2011, 01:34 AM

I've hallucinated before (when I had dengue fever as a teenager, and later when I had a really bad case of the flu). The difference between those hallucinations and the kind you have when you're in the liminal state (which I would classify as astral visitors) was that when feverish I was completely awake and with my eyes open (physically) and could still feel and hear the hallucination, but had to close my eyes to see them (they didn't go away when I opened them, because I could close them again and it would be where I could hear it) while an astral event is only seen/heard while in the liminal state, and stops as soon as I'm awake enough.
Other than that, the quality of the hallucination (vs. astral event) is better, because it happens when I'm completely awake, FWTW.

07-20-2011, 01:34 AM	#5
id2008 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	I've hallucinated before (when I had dengue fever as a teenager, and later when I had a really bad case of the flu). The difference between those hallucinations and the kind you have when you're in the liminal state (which I would classify as astral visitors) was that when feverish I was completely awake and with my eyes open (physically) and could still feel and hear the hallucination, but had to close my eyes to see them (they didn't go away when I opened them, because I could close them again and it would be where I could hear it) while an astral event is only seen/heard while in the liminal state, and stops as soon as I'm awake enough. Other than that, the quality of the hallucination (vs. astral event) is better, because it happens when I'm completely awake, FWTW.
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