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**rushiddink** · 07-04-2011, 04:14 PM

Hello, Genesis.

Trance happens whenever you tune out a bit of your physical surroundings and inwardly. Light trance would be a state where you don't pay so much attention to the outside world anymore, like often happens when practicing energy work. Deep trance can lead to a state where the outer senses are mostly or fully absent and one is predominantly experiencing inner sensations of some kind.

The state you describe is somewhere along this continuum of experiences, and has for example characterized as "mind awake / body asleep" in the terminology of Robert Monroe and others. This state is helpful to practice, and depending on the depth of the trance Robert Monroe characterised it as "Focus 10" (the onset of the experience) or "Focus 12" (a deeper variety thereof).

The cause of the confusion you experienced is very well explained by Beekeeper, I just want to add that this can change due to trance training. The more often you either consciously induce a trance or just experience trance, the deeper you might get without losing "lucidity" - the quality where you aware of the experience you're having and more or less remember what is going on and your situation (like that you remember that you lie in bed even though your body feedback no longer tells you so).

In the beginning, the trance experience can vary wildly, so don't experience to have the same trance every time. The fact that you had a deeper trance right of the bat is probably because you did not have any expectations about what constitutes a trance. Expectations can get in the way of recognizing what is actually going on. Since you only set an intention and only had a vague understanding, you got an experience first and could process it directly and in hindsight, which is basically the ideal way for any experience.

For comparison: The first time I ever tried to have a conscious OBE through a HemiSync tape, I had a strong experience of floating upward and seeing through my closed eyelids precisely because I didn't know what to expect. I was so surprised (and a bit overwhelmed) that I aborted it despite it was what I had wanted. I wasn't even aware of that anymore of that at that moment, hence the notion of lucidity.

All in all, congrats to your nice experience.

Cheers,
Oliver

07-04-2011, 04:14 PM	#4
rushiddink Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	Hello, Genesis. Trance happens whenever you tune out a bit of your physical surroundings and inwardly. Light trance would be a state where you don't pay so much attention to the outside world anymore, like often happens when practicing energy work. Deep trance can lead to a state where the outer senses are mostly or fully absent and one is predominantly experiencing inner sensations of some kind. The state you describe is somewhere along this continuum of experiences, and has for example characterized as "mind awake / body asleep" in the terminology of Robert Monroe and others. This state is helpful to practice, and depending on the depth of the trance Robert Monroe characterised it as "Focus 10" (the onset of the experience) or "Focus 12" (a deeper variety thereof). The cause of the confusion you experienced is very well explained by Beekeeper, I just want to add that this can change due to trance training. The more often you either consciously induce a trance or just experience trance, the deeper you might get without losing "lucidity" - the quality where you aware of the experience you're having and more or less remember what is going on and your situation (like that you remember that you lie in bed even though your body feedback no longer tells you so). In the beginning, the trance experience can vary wildly, so don't experience to have the same trance every time. The fact that you had a deeper trance right of the bat is probably because you did not have any expectations about what constitutes a trance. Expectations can get in the way of recognizing what is actually going on. Since you only set an intention and only had a vague understanding, you got an experience first and could process it directly and in hindsight, which is basically the ideal way for any experience. For comparison: The first time I ever tried to have a conscious OBE through a HemiSync tape, I had a strong experience of floating upward and seeing through my closed eyelids precisely because I didn't know what to expect. I was so surprised (and a bit overwhelmed) that I aborted it despite it was what I had wanted. I wasn't even aware of that anymore of that at that moment, hence the notion of lucidity. All in all, congrats to your nice experience. Cheers, Oliver
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