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**leyliana** · 03-31-2011, 11:25 PM

Dear Sri Nacchinarkiniyan Ji,

I understand.

My inquiry was towards the pain that my Guru, the Maharishi Ramana experienced at the fag end of his life. As you know, there were different theories about Sanchtha and Prarabdha karma about His bodily pain. To complicate the things further, He was at hand when His mother and the sacred cow Lakshmi passed away. In both cases, He said that they would not have any further rebirths.

Yet, He had the cancer. Some speculate that He spent His prarabdha and yet others speculate that He took over His mother's and Lakshmi's prarabdha.

He was a Jeevan Muktha. So what is true?

By the way, this question does not arise on the basis of non belief. It arises out of my own ignorance.

Regards,
KRS

Sri. KRS,

Once anyone is born as a human being, the Laws of Karma comes into effect. It applies to Jeevan Mukhtas also. In fact it applies even to Avataras who are born as human beings. The Avataras do not have Prarabdha karma but they do have to experience the effect of this Janma's karma.

Great saints like Ramana Maharishi and Sri Ramakrishna have suffered. It is quite possible that Ramana Maharishi took on the karmas of others. Saints have done that. When Sri Ramakrishna was ill, one of his followers who had great powers came to take on his illness. Sri Ramakrishna did not allow the follower to touch him and told him off.

There is yet another category of bad things - death or serious accidents in which a large number of people are affected in just one go. I do not know whether this can be convincingly explained by the Law of Karma.

Last but not least, it may not be correct to presume that all the "spiritual seekers" are noble souls. There can be many who go in for it for diverse reasons and it will be difficult for human intelligence to identify the genuine ones from the not-so-genuine.

Sri. Sangom,

We are not discussing the Laws of Karma here. That would be a diversion from the original purpose of the thread.

Again this thread is for finding the answer to the question in the minds of genuine spiritual seekers and also make people realize the cost of being really Spiritual. It tries to provide an answer to the question of the Bhakthas as to why saints like Ramana Maharishi and Sri Ramakrishna suffered.

This question would not arise in the minds of people who are not genuine spiritual seekers.

The real spiritual seeker does not really care what the society thinks of him. This is what we discussed in the thread "Why do we seek approval from Society for breaking it's rules?"

The real spiritual seeker is a non-conformist and out of tune with the Society. Even great saints who are revered by us did not adhere to the rules of the society.

Diapproval by the society is one of the costs that the real spiritual seeker has to pay.

Again this is not a discussion about the genuineness or otherwise of Spiritual seekers. I think we have already had an acrimonious discussion about that.

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leyliana Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Dear Sri Nacchinarkiniyan Ji, I understand. My inquiry was towards the pain that my Guru, the Maharishi Ramana experienced at the fag end of his life. As you know, there were different theories about Sanchtha and Prarabdha karma about His bodily pain. To complicate the things further, He was at hand when His mother and the sacred cow Lakshmi passed away. In both cases, He said that they would not have any further rebirths. Yet, He had the cancer. Some speculate that He spent His prarabdha and yet others speculate that He took over His mother's and Lakshmi's prarabdha. He was a Jeevan Muktha. So what is true? By the way, this question does not arise on the basis of non belief. It arises out of my own ignorance. Regards, KRS Sri. KRS, Once anyone is born as a human being, the Laws of Karma comes into effect. It applies to Jeevan Mukhtas also. In fact it applies even to Avataras who are born as human beings. The Avataras do not have Prarabdha karma but they do have to experience the effect of this Janma's karma. Great saints like Ramana Maharishi and Sri Ramakrishna have suffered. It is quite possible that Ramana Maharishi took on the karmas of others. Saints have done that. When Sri Ramakrishna was ill, one of his followers who had great powers came to take on his illness. Sri Ramakrishna did not allow the follower to touch him and told him off. There is yet another category of bad things - death or serious accidents in which a large number of people are affected in just one go. I do not know whether this can be convincingly explained by the Law of Karma. Last but not least, it may not be correct to presume that all the "spiritual seekers" are noble souls. There can be many who go in for it for diverse reasons and it will be difficult for human intelligence to identify the genuine ones from the not-so-genuine. Sri. Sangom, We are not discussing the Laws of Karma here. That would be a diversion from the original purpose of the thread. Again this thread is for finding the answer to the question in the minds of genuine spiritual seekers and also make people realize the cost of being really Spiritual. It tries to provide an answer to the question of the Bhakthas as to why saints like Ramana Maharishi and Sri Ramakrishna suffered. This question would not arise in the minds of people who are not genuine spiritual seekers. The real spiritual seeker does not really care what the society thinks of him. This is what we discussed in the thread "Why do we seek approval from Society for breaking it's rules?" The real spiritual seeker is a non-conformist and out of tune with the Society. Even great saints who are revered by us did not adhere to the rules of the society. Diapproval by the society is one of the costs that the real spiritual seeker has to pay. Again this is not a discussion about the genuineness or otherwise of Spiritual seekers. I think we have already had an acrimonious discussion about that.
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