[Goalseexere]

thank you sankar. i have split up your message into parts and addressed my response.

at the end i will sum up. ok?

Kunjuppu ji,
Namaste.
Social,Religious and Political .....
On those days there was a Gem in our Community by name Rajaji.Then TTK,R.Venkataraman,all occupied a major roll in Political field....

i agree we had more political leaders who were recognized as competent, honest and able. now we have no one of that calibre.

whose fault is that? personally, the old leadership came up and went with the independence movement. we did not have any political leaders prior or have none now.

i think, it was only and one and only independence movement, that fired our imagination to actively participate in politics.

there are many theories as to our lack of political leaderhship & power in days of yore. let me skip that.

nowadays, we have no representation in the tamil community, i think, because we did not move with the changing times, to adopt and work with the dravidian politics. with cna at the realm of dmk, we might have had a slight open door to reassert ourselves. we missed that window of opportunity.

with MK, we sulked and did not participate, and in the process, gave ample tools to those who had ill will against us as a community. we could have done better.

please remember that leadership has to be earned. for various reasons, we turned to comedians like cho or zeros like swamy, who have done our cause more good than imaginable. i think so anyway.

T.V.S,Simpson,India Cements,Raman and Raman and many more occupied a major roll in Society.The occupied the entire Economy of our State:

come on sir, have you seen the number of TBs as CEOs of companies. the ones you mention are nothing compared to the calibre of gopalakrishnan, nooyi or ramadorai. unlike tvs of yore, these guys compete with the world and come out winning.

i think we are incubating far more business leaders than ever before. i disagree completley with you here.

Experts of different fields like Kunnakkudi,ariyakkudi Ramanuja Iyengar etc...That is Social....according to your quote..

you have emphasized karnatic music here. i am told that sudha raghunathan or bombay jayashree, and many of the upcoming artists are on par with the likes of GNB or MS.

i do not know karnatic music. but i think, the sabhas are full. with new names and young artistes.

we dominate bharatanatyam. but i will be very happy when other tamil groups also take it and excel. i don't believe in being paranoid about exclusivity.

Then Religious...Kanchi Mutt,Shringeri,many more Jeers,who where respected by the entire India and even they are worshiped in place of God...

except kanchi, i think all religious mutts command the same level of respect as of yore.

there are new movements like ravi shankar etc who have a large following.

there are other religious leaders like 'maa' who come from other hindu groups. this is a good move for the integration of religion.

have you witnessed the groupings of ayyappans? a blend of all castes. i would rejoice at such developments rather than lamenting the supposed absence of tamil brahmin religious leaderships.

What about Now.We by our self not even fighting or even permitted to fight for establishing our Individuality...

i do not understand this. in what way is your individuality and growth stunted by society?

We are going deeper and deeper since past 5 decades.

deeper into what? poverty? i dispute that. i think TBs has among the larger middle class as a group in india. we have super rich folks. right across board, i think as a community we have never been so prosperous.

the prosperity has come from work, and not out lazy leaching of labour toiling in inherited tharvaads and estates. we should be proud of our achievements.

i suspect, that most other communities would like to emulate us, re achievements and way of life.

One police case is pending still in my account among others of my party

so what? since when did bjp has the right to impose laws? ramsethu is a politicized affair, which went against the deepest desires of tamils from over 100s of years.

bharathiar has sung about it. those TBs who cast their lot with bjp, i think are misguided, as bjp has no sense of tamil pulse.

this issue is not a TB issue.

We are still not ready to give up our fear over the few rowdies.
We fail to realise that Rowdies are just few

so? i have written several times in this forum, to urge our parents to encourage to build our children's muscles as well as their brains.

deterrence and self confidence are inbuilt and will make any dhushtan think twice before bullying you. all it takes is a few weights and about an hour a day.

in 3 months, you can have a brigade of brahmin youths ready to cut any rowdy's mustache by half, and force him into a sari. cowardice is not the rowdy's faulty. it is our shame.

to sum up:

sankar, i think you are way out of your mark with reality. your political and social leanings towards rss, i think, influences you to view the current tamil society through gloomy glasses.

i also fear that folks like you, encourage youth to violence. though, many of them, i would suspect, protect their own children, be ready enough to make cannon fodder of the poor and gullible brahmins, into street fights in the name of bharat mata.

this is not good for india. it is not good to preach disharmony for ultimately it will come back, to destroy us. just look at history.

do not let this tragedy be repeated in india. there will be no winners.

india will be the loser.