[JeremyIV]

I have a longstanding suspicion that forums which deal with the topic of race and ethnicity attract two or three types of people, there's the scientists, who tend to congregate around the classification sub-forum, there's the mixed people who are racially insecure and then there's the racialist 'pure' people.

So, let's have a poll.

Is your ancestry either entirely made up of one heritage or at least 7/8ths made up of one heritage as far as you know?

Disclaimer: Can we avoid any trashing of other people's races/ethnicities/religions. I think, if enough people participate, this could be an interesting exercise.

I'm predicting 50-70% of people will be 'pure' for the purposes of this poll, clearly no-one or very few people on this forum will actually be pure.

[Matajic]

No, I'm a muggle-born. They didn't let me into Hogwarts.

[DoctorGordanBens]

No, I'm a muggle-born. They didn't let me into Hogwarts.

I've had people use that one on me before whenever I've brought up the topic of racial purity, shouldda seen it coming and re-phrased my question before posting.

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No, I'm a muggle-born. They didn't let me into Hogwarts.

Out of interest, are you fully Sicilian?

[Susanleech]

Yes, ethnically I am a pure-blood. Racially? No.

[slarceSelia]

It depends what you call pure blood.

Im 25% french, 25% Basque, 50% italian (of this 50%: 70% veneti, 20% etruscan, 10% latin)

[CelexaNY]

I'm ethnically mixed, maybe even racially mixed, I bet I'm some white nigger but who cares anyway..

[crycleascentyv]

100% Assyrian from all sides as far as I can trace, perhaps I would have an Armenian great great great grandparent somewhere, but I'm not aware of any as far as I know.

Dr McDonald's analysis did mention that I don't seem to have any admixtures for at least 10 generations (This goes back to the 1600's possibly), and he said the same about my maternal uncle and my 3rd cousin (From my mother's side).

[RLRWai4B]

racially maybe.ethnically definitely not...

[BCVB9SOc]

Neither racially nor ethnically. I'm almost pan-Caribbean hispanic, only lacking a cuban ancestry to complete the Greater Antilles line.

[AnypecekceS]

If Basques are considered spaniards too, then yes... i´m at least 7/8 pure.
87.5% spaniard (62.5% Asturian, 12.5 % Basque, 12.5% Castillian) and 12.5% British

[77Dinaartickire]

Out of interest, are you fully Sicilian?

No .

[heennaRaf]

No .

then you cannot join the 'cosa nostra' friends club.

[HRCPda7R]

I'm "pure" in this poll, purely one ethnicity (=exactly 7/8 "pure"). Nobody's really purely anything, unless they're some isolated tribals.

It's impossible to know all your ancestors since their numbers increase exponentially per generation (obviously with more overlap the farther back you go). You can't even go by DNA since the reference groups may be mixed already.

[appabessy]

then you cannot join the 'cosa nostra' friends club.

Actually he probably can, I heard because so many Italian-Americans have mixed with other groups the only requirement is a paternal line which can be traced to Italy/Sicily and an Italian/Sicilian surname.

Isn't John Gotti jr half Jew?

[vulikox]

neither racially nor ethnic wise... i dont really see why you say mixed race or ethnic people are insecure... alot of them are proud of it and accept it

[CaseyFronczekHomie]

I'm "pure" in this poll, purely one ethnicity (=exactly 7/8 "pure"). Nobody's really purely anything, unless they're some isolated tribals.

It's impossible to know all your ancestors since their numbers increase exponentially per generation (obviously with more overlap the farther back you go). You can't even go by DNA since the reference groups may be mixed already.

Of course it is impossible, and groups define themselves in different ways, for example nobody could be pure English for more than 1,500 years since the concept of Englishness didn't exist prior to that.

However, I was trying to ask whether people had any noticeable foreign heritage, I just chose 1/8th foreign as an arbitrary cut off point (my only logic was that generally people know about any exotic lineage up to their great-grandparents but beyond that they usually find out through researching their ancestry).

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neither racially nor ethnic wise... i dont really see why you say mixed race or ethnic people are insecure... alot of them are proud of it and accept it

No, but there is a lot of people who try to be things which they aren't- look at the people begging to get classified as something or other.

[brorwargy]

Actually he probably can, I heard because so many Italian-Americans have mixed with other groups the only requirement is a paternal line which can be traced to Italy/Sicily and an Italian/Sicilian surname.

Isn't John Gotti jr half Jew?

Not according to 'Goodfellas', in America i guess yes, in Italy it is a mystery but according to the last investigations only pure Sicilian catholics can join. Sicilian mafia is very conservative specially in the moral values.

[dianakroshXX]

Actually he probably can, I heard because so many Italian-Americans have mixed with other groups the only requirement is a paternal line which can be traced to Italy/Sicily and an Italian/Sicilian surname.

Isn't John Gotti jr half Jew?

All correct.

I was asked if I was full Sicilian, which I am not.

For the record, two of my great grandparents hailed from Northern Italy. Liguria and Lombardia, to be exact.

While the mafioso Joseph Bonanno was a first cousin several times removed, my family abhors the mafia, and I would sooner agree to be a janitor for the rest of my life than a hitman, pimp, or drug dealer.

[Pznrrmaf]

Of course it is impossible, and groups define themselves in different ways, for example nobody could be pure English for more than 1,500 years since the concept of Englishness didn't exist prior to that.

However, I was trying to ask whether people had any noticeable foreign heritage, I just chose 1/8th foreign as an arbitrary cut off point (my only logic was that generally people know about any exotic lineage up to their great-grandparents but beyond that they usually find out through researching their ancestry).

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No, but there is a lot of people who try to be things which they aren't- look at the people begging to get classified as something or other.

well i cant really deny that.... just look at inquiring mind..... but i dont think generally it produces some inferiority complex

[Markdogas]

All correct.

I was asked if I was full Sicilian, which I am not.

For the record, two of my great grandparents hailed from Northern Italy. Liguria and Lombardia, to be exact.

While the mafioso Joseph Bonanno was a first cousin several times removed, my family abhors the mafia, and I would sooner agree to be a janitor for the rest of my life than a hitman, pimp, or drug dealer.

Completely agree, i was kidding about it.