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Old 04-26-2012, 01:50 AM   #1
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Default Jamaicans vs Haitians: Who are Blacker
Switching things up a bit. Who are more SSA or darker on average?

Jamaicans


or

Haitians
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:51 AM   #2
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Hatian Negroes
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:53 AM   #3
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Haitians look darker based on the 2 pictures
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:55 AM   #4
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Haiti's basically White Nationalists nightmare so it gets my vote
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:55 AM   #5
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.....Most Haitians can pass in Benin unnoticed. Some Jamaicans can pass in Ivory Coast or Senegambia unnoticed. Jamaicans tend to be darker on average, but not necessarily more African
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:58 AM   #6
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These threads get old really fast.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:01 AM   #7
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These threads get old really fast.
But it's about time we do something else rather than a "Who's whiter" thread.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:04 AM   #8
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You should have made it who is whiter... its so much more interesting that way... :P
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:17 AM   #9
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Oh no, here we go again.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:23 AM   #10
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Jamaicans. I like them better, lol.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:45 AM   #11
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I voted both but must likely... its Haitians. They did kill every white person they saw during the revolution even mulattos
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:43 AM   #12
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Haitians
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:16 AM   #13
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:31 AM   #14
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According to the majority of the genetics studies the average haitian is 80% african 20 % european;so Im going with jamaicans.
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:43 AM   #15
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I just got back from Jamaica and the parts I was in was mostly dark skinned Black people, who look "pure" or near "pure" SSA. This was in Northeastern St Elizabeth, places like Balaclava, Brae's River, George's Valley, Elim, and Mayfield, Manchester. You don't even see Brown people for miles and miles. To see Brown people you got to go into Santa Cruz and Mandeville, but even there, the majority is dark skinned Black, "pure" or near "pure" SSA. These aforementioned towns and areas looked like any video of Haiti so I am voting they're both equally Black. Just different African origins.
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:46 AM   #16
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I just got back from Jamaica and the parts I was in was mostly dark skinned Black people, who look "pure" or near "pure" SSA. This was in Northeastern St Elizabeth, places like Balaclava, Brae's River, George's Valley, Elim, and Mayfield, Manchester. You don't even see Brown people for miles and miles. To see Brown people you got to go into Santa Cruz and Mandeville, but even there, the majority is dark skinned Black, "pure" or near "pure" SSA. These aforementioned towns and areas looked like any video of Haiti so I am voting they're both equally Black. Just different African origins.
I think Jamaicans tend to be taller on average.
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:55 AM   #17
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I think Jamaicans tend to be taller on average.
Lots of tall dark slim people in Jamaica. There are mixed sectors of Jamaica (such as Southern St. Elizabeth) but most of Jamaica is still predominantly African/dark skinned followed by Afromixed "Browns". The average Dominican in Jamaica would be part of the Brown minority. Me, for example, I was just assumed a brown Jamaican...of Black Chinese extraction. A couple times I was confused for other people. One man in Mandeville, Manchester asked me if my name was Lee then again in Montego Bay airport a taxi driver asked me if I was the son or brother of a Ras that used to drive a van from MoBay to Mandeville. They were both really hyped about me being these people and that one guy in the airport exclaimed I had to be that person. Black people in Jamaica also can't believe I'm not Chinese mixed; (unless you're dealing with a college/self educated person) the commoner is oblivious to Native/mixed people still existing in the world.

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Here's a video of Maggoty, St. Elizabeth, right by where I was at so you can see an example of the common pheno there.
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Old 05-27-2012, 11:16 AM   #18
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Why didn't you ask "Who is has a higher percentage of SSA admixture?" Unless you're really asking about hue/color. But I don't think so.

If you exclude the Jamaicans who have Chinese and East Indian admixture, I'd guess they're about equally SSA.

Just guessing based on Haitians and Jamaicans I know in NYC, though.
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Old 05-27-2012, 11:20 AM   #19
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Why didn't you ask "Who is has a higher percentage of SSA admixture?" Unless you're really asking about hue/color. But I don't think so.
You mean the other way around....who has a higher percentage of non-SSA admixture being that they're both predominantly SSA...it cannot be considered SSA admixture when you're that SSA.

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If you exclude the Jamaicans who have Chinese and East Indian admixture, I'd guess they're about equally SSA.

Just guessing based on Haitians and Jamaicans I know in NYC, though.
Jamaicans with Chinese and East Indian admixture are more common in the Jamaican diaspora than they are back on the island. Why? Because most of the mixed Jamaicans left for Miami, Toronto, NY and London. Most people in Jamaica are predominantly African. This time around I didn't even see any Jamaican Chinese person...the Chinese I saw were straight immigrants.
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You mean the other way around....who has a higher percentage of non-SSA admixture being that they're both predominantly SSA...it cannot be considered SSA admixture when you're that SSA.
When put like that, then Jamaicans win hands down, on account of their being less isolated and opposed to foreign inmigration (at least when the Brits were in charge anyway).
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