[Antelpebabe]

Phenotype:

1 Which of them could be more easily mistaken as being from outside of Europe?
2 Who has lighter skin, hair and eye color?
3 Who has more traits that could be considered non-european?
4 Who overlaps with more european ethnic groups?

Genotype:

5 Who has more non-european admixture?
6 Who clusters closer with other major european ethnic groups (germans/french/etc)?

Culture & History

7 Who has more non-european cultural influences?
8 Who shares more common history with the rest of Europe?


My take:

1 Certain Spaniards could be mistaken as MENA more often than Hungarians could be mistaken as something else.
2 Hungarians have lighter hair and eye color than Spaniards.
3 Hungarians can present slanted eyes.
4 Due to the isolation of the iberian peninsula, Spaniards strongly overlap only with Portuguese and Southern French. Hungarians on the other hand can overlap with their neighbors at varying degrees: austrians, czechoslovaks, romanians, croatians
5 Dont know
6 Dont know
7 Spain borders only one non-iberian european country, France, and is closer to Africa. Spain was subject to islamic influence longer than Hungary. Ottomans Turks (Anatolians) were also much more europeanized than Arabs/Berbers due to the stronger influence Greeks/Romans/Byzantines exerted upon them. Hungary, being in central europe, was subject to more influence from the Holy Roman Empire, the Renaissance and other european cultural manifestations.
8

-Antiquity to Early Middle Ages: Due to the fact that Hungarians arrived in Europe in 895, they missed 2 critical periods in European history: the Roman empire and the Germanic invasions.
-High Middle Ages (10-15 century): Spaniards spent much of this period fighting the muslims of Al-Andalus. The Kingdom of Hungary was one of the most powerful states in Europe.
Modern ages: Spain participated in many wars during this period up until the Napoleonic period. After that the only major war it participated in was its own civil war. Hungary was engaged in fighting the ottoman empire during this time period up until the union with Austria; it then went on to participate in both World Wars at the side of the Germans.

Verdict:
-Hungarians are whiter than Spaniards based on phenotype.
-Spain was throught its early and middle history isolated from the rest of europe and enganged in fighting muslims in the iberian peninsula. It was only after the fall of Al-Andalus that Spain began participating in contemporary european history and politics. Hungary has been since its formation more involved in mainstream european history.

[Piediahef]

Hungarians. Obviously.

[Morageort]

Really?What does it matter.

[wooclosmercob]

It depends on the lighting.

[Vomazoono]

First I must say, majority of spanish looks southern european and a great portion of them looks central european . But they are few ones who looks very swarthy and alien .
About Hungarians, they are a lot of them who looks normal central/eastern european, some who looks southern european , and some who looks very alien .

So we can't generalize

Phenotype:

1 Which of them could be more easily mistaken as being from outside of Europe?
2 Who has lighter skin, hair and eye color?
3 Who has more traits that could be considered non-european?
4 Who overlaps with more european ethnic groups?

Genotype:

5 Who has more non-european admixture?
6 Who clusters closer with other major european ethnic groups (germans/french/etc)?

Culture & History

7 Who has more non-european cultural influences?
8 Who shares more common history with the rest of Europe?

1. Some Hungarian could be mistakes for some sort of Tatars hybrid ...
Few spaniard could be mistakes for Latin american of suspect background

2 Hungarian

3 Hungarian

4 Spanish, and some Hungarian

5 Hungarian

6 Spaniard

8 Hungarian

9 Spanish

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European looking Hungarian


Non European looking Hungarian

[halfstreet]

Really?What does it matter.

It doesnt.

[denyffishh]

Really?What does it matter.

I understand your sentiment about how these things don't matter, but on an anthropology site open to amateurs of all ages, these are the types of questions you get from time to time and are to be expected. Maturity levels vary widely.

[Trikaduliana]

Really?What does it matter.

It doesn't.

[mireOpekrhype]

Non European looking Hungarian

to be fair, his name is attila..

[emuffette]

European looking Hungarian


Non European looking Hungarian

Average spaniard

Euro-looking spaniard

[casinoboneerer]

Lol most hungarians ive met look 100% white.

Euro? Blond hair blue eyes? I dont get it.

[phenterminediett]

Lol most hungarians ive met look 100% white.

Euro? Blond hair blue eyes? I dont get it.

I know, Hungarians are wrongly stereotyped as being mongoloid-looking when they are not. They are much more depigmented than Spaniards and look very much central european.

[VitaliyMurnov]

hungarians are mix of germans, czechs, serbs etc, also many poles and austrians, they are european like all neighbors, only different language. spaniards are Euro too, but darker.

[DenisMoor]

Average spaniard

Euro-looking spaniard

Lol, not even in your dreams. Raul is not an average spaniard.

Phenotype:

Genotype:

5 Who has more non-european admixture?
6 Who clusters closer with other major european ethnic groups (germans/french/etc)?

Culture & History

7 Who has more non-european cultural influences?
8 Who shares more common history with the rest of Europe?

Phenotype : Depends on what do you mean by "looking european"
Genotype : I would say Spaniards are genetically more european. Hungarians have more of the west-asian components.

[AlexanderPalamayr]

Lol most spanish ive met are meditteranean looking. Brunette hair, a tan darker look reseambling greek at time. Of the hungarians ive met or seen, they look completely europeans. I guess going to folklorico festivals help. Saw hungarian and spanish dance teams....

[denSmumbSes]

Lol, not even in your dreams. Raul is not an average spaniard.

How does an average spaniard looks like according to you.

Phenotype : Depends on what do you mean by "looking european"
Genotype : I would say Spaniards are genetically more european. Hungarians have more of the west-asian components. Looking european could be defined as having little room to be mistaken for something else other than european. Spaniards are more susceptible of being mistaken as north africans or arabs.

(Anatolian) Turkish mostly im willing to bet. Spaniards have varying degrees of north african and arab admixture.

[diplmixxxx]

How does an average spaniard looks like according to you.

spanish students :

http://www.unav.es/admision/img/vena...N%20CERNIN.jpg

Looking european could be defined as having little room to be mistaken for something else other than european. Spaniards are more susceptible of being mistaken as north africans or arabs. I don't agree. We have hundreds of thousands of north-africans immigrants in Spain and they look very different from us.

(Anatolian) Turkish mostly im willing to bet. Spaniards have varying degrees of north african and arab admixture. That's not true either. And turks have neither nothing to do with us.

[Efonukmp]

Did I login into TA by mistake?



This guy looks almost pure Euro.

[Fertassa]

Spaniards look more SouthernEuropean>Mediterranid in phenotype.

Hungaryans would have more Northern looking individuals.

[disappointment2]

Hungarians have similar levels of arabic as spaniards : For example at DodecadK12b, the southwest-asian (peaks in Arabs) is 3-4% in spaniards and 3% in Hungarians. The two european components Atlanto-Med and Norther-European we have :

Hungarians : 75.5
Spaniards : 76.0

It's quite thight.

On genetic plots with an axis on middle-east levels, the Hungarians are infact closer to spanish :