[anconueys]

Enjoy your "wisdom" then. With such a great analytical skills I am sure you will have a bright future in the US: just like our fellow countrymen who chose to live as pariahs in a foreign land instead of educating themselves and making the country their ancestors lived in to move forward.

Pass judgment? Just look at Brazilian television. I've watched Rede Globo, so I know how twisted they are. I've also watched documentaries produced by Brazilians themselves. There are some people in Brazil who are also awake, but afraid to speak up, since Brazilian society tends to ostracize activists and protesters. The USA has a huge sheep problem, but it can't even compare to Brazil's amount of sheep.

[Angeheade]

Enjoy your "wisdom" then. With such a great analytical skills I am sure you will have a bright future in the US: just like our fellow countrymen who chose to live as pariahs in a foreign land instead of educating themselves and making the country their ancestors lived in to move forward.

Pariahs? Maybe they're pariahs there, but they can care less, since they're overseas being treated like actual humans. Yes, in the beginning they're going to experience xenophobia depending on where they live and how much effort they put into integration. Despite the hardships, the majority of Brazilians' children end up going to prolific universities and turn out to be successful role models. I'm talking about people of quintessential Brazilian origin, who are descended from African slaves, pre-independence colonists, peasants, and/or Amerindians. Not people descended from post-independence immigrants.

A Brazilian mulatta once told me that she was amazed at the children's programming here in the US, because the kids in the cast are of every color and ethnicity. She said that in Brazil, the majority of the kids on Brazilian television programs for children are white or light-skinned/predominantly Euro. Because of this sense of inclusion, Brazilian Americans generally grow up with positive self-esteem when it comes to their ethnic identity.

[Sdzqerty]

You have zilch connection with the history of the US. That's what most immigrants fail to notice. If they were really proud of themselves, they would fight to make their own country better, not behave as opportunistic hyenas, happy with the consumption items they can get in the US. The reality is pretty harsh: in the long term, it backfires. Especially with Latin Americans, who are particularly targeted in the US.

Pariahs? Maybe they're pariahs there, but they can care less, since they're overseas being treated like actual humans. Yes, in the beginning they're going to experience xenophobia depending on where they live and how much effort they put into integration. Despite the hardships, the majority of Brazilians' children end up going to prolific universities and turn out to be successful role models. I'm talking about people of quintessential Brazilian origin, who are descended from African slaves, pre-independence colonists, peasants, and/or Amerindians. Not people descended from post-independence immigrants.

A Brazilian mulatta once told me that she was amazed at the children's programming here in the US, because the kids in the cast are of every color and ethnicity. She said that in Brazil, the majority of the kids on Brazilian television programs for children are white or light-skinned/predominantly Euro. Because of this sense of inclusion, Brazilian Americans generally grow up with positive self-esteem when it comes to their ethnic identity.

[DoctorDeryOne]

You have zilch connection with the history of the US. That's what most immigrants fail to notice. If they were really proud of themselves, they would fight to make their own country better, not to behave as opportunistic hienas, happy with the consumption items they can get in the US. The reality is pretty harsh: in the long term, it backfires. Especially with Latin Americans, who are particularly targeted in the US.

Having zero connection to the history of the US is relevant how? I never claimed to be American. Even if I were an American, having a "connection" to U.S. history is not a requirement for U.S. nationality. Gisele Bündchen has "zilch connection" to Brazilian history, yet she is internationally renowned as the most famous Brazilian in the world.

You do know that most of the Latin Americans are targeted because they're undocumented, right? Of course, documented Latin American immigrants also get targeted, but much less. Anyway, as a third world immigrant, you're going to be marginalized if you don't live in a multicultural neighborhood, anyway. My parents have experienced xenophobia, but it's been on the lower scale, since they've made wise decisions on the where they chose to live and work.

Opportunistic hyenas? The hyenas are the fascist white Brazilians who treat my people like shit. If they weren't so oppressed, they wouldn't leave, but Brazil is too white-washed and so lost in Eurocentrism, that it takes leaving the country to snap out of it.

I love Brazil, but your denial of Brazil's huge socio-political disorder are not going to make the injustices disappear.

Here is a self-aware Brazilian who was born and raised in Brazil and actually speaks her mind:





This woman has a lot of haters, all made up of white Brazilians and pardo Brazilians who kiss white ass. My own two aunts have expressed similar experiences to the woman in the videos.

[tuszit]

Not true. It is because they are Latin Americans. But some people prefer to spend a life like that just because of it being cheaper to buy a nicer TV, a nicer car. That's why their situation is similar to that of hyenas: even if they are treated for the most part as pariahs by the establishment, they are glad to be able to take and suck the garbage of the host society. Instead of working hard to improve their own country, instead of working hard to educate themselves as Brazil desperately needs, they look for the the easiest ways to consume goods, and in the process blame Brazil for not "giving them" nice conditions, when it should be they who should give Brazil a better future. In the end it clearly shows a lack of understanding, and in most cases it backfires: these people tend to live miserable lives abroad.

You do know that most of the Latin Americans are targeted because they're undocumented, right?

[SmuffNuSMaxqh]

Not true. It is because they are Latin Americans. But some people prefer to spend a life like that just because of it being cheaper to buy a nicer TV, a nicer car. That's why their situation is similar to that of hyenas: even if they are treated for the most part as pariahs by the establishment, they are glad to be able to take and suck the garbage of the host society. Instead of working hard to improve their own country, instead of working hard to educate themselves as Brazil desperately needs, they look for the the easiest ways to consume goods, and in the process blame Brazil for not "giving them" nice conditions, when it should be they who should give Brazil a better future. In the end it clearly shows a lack of understanding, and in most cases it backfires: these people tend to live miserable lives abroad.

You're making an overt generalization. My own father has said that life here is countless times better than the life we were living in Brazil. He adores this country, as do most Brazilians living here. He has absolutely no desire to ever move back to Brazil, and the same goes for most other Brazilians living here. Brazilians are not going to be subjected to the the kind of harassment you're insinuating unless if they move to a predominantly white location.

Brazilians integrate much easier in multicultural neighborhoods. Brazilians who make the decision to live in North Carolina don't fare as well as those of us who live in Boston, South Florida, Providence, and Hudson County, New Jersey.

Give Brazil a better future? Tell that to the affluent and fascist white Brazilians who keep barring Brazil from progress. In order to give a country a better future, the country needs people in power to be for the people, which is rarely the case in Brazil. How are you going to help a country when the help goes unappreciated? What Brazilians need to do is take example from the Bolivians and elect someone like Evo Morales.

[casinochniks]

Any individual is largely responsible for his own fate. Instead of blaming a country for not giving them "nice conditions" (in most cases for those who chose to live abroad "nice conditions" means cheaper and nicer TVs, cars, refrigerators, etc), they should ask themselves what they have contributed for their own country embetterment. Those who have left the country out of basic consumption reasons cannot complain of Brazil: it is Brazil who should complain of being home to such sell out losers. Instead of educating themselves and working hard to make Brazil better, they chose to live as pariahs in a foreign hostile land, taking and sucking the garbage of that society, from drinking coke, to eating McDonald's up to buying everything they can afford.

Give Brazil a better future?.

[Prosocorneliay]

Any individual is largely responsible for his own fate. Instead of blaming a country for not giving them "nice conditions" (in most cases for those who chose live abroad "nice conditions" means cheaper and nicer TVs, cars, refrigerators, etc), they should ask themselves what they have contributed for their own country embetterment. Those who have left the country out of basic comsumption reasons cannot complain of Brazil: it is Brazil who should complain of being home to such sell out losers. Instead of educating themselves and working hard to make Brazil better, they chose to live as pariahs in a foreign hostile land, taking and sucking the garbage of that society, from drinking coke, to eating McDonald's up to buying everything they can afford.

I see you're calling my parents sellout losers now. You're mature...

How is my father going to educate himself when he had to leave school at the age of fourteen to help his mother and siblings out? My father worked to put his younger brother through university. My family doesn't spend money on superficial things as you claim us brazucas do. Brazilians usually move here to provide a better life for their families. You seriously come off as a pompous bourgeois with your assertions.

My parents came here to provide me with what I would not been able to have in Brazil, which is a good education and a healthier upbringing. In Brazil, I would have ended up going to public schools, which you already know are awful for the most part.

Also, my family and I only eat Brazilian cuisine, as do most other Brazilians. There is no soda in my house. You'll seldom see Brazilians here eating fast food or American food in general. As for hostility, my family and I are rarely treated in a hostile manner. I do not have the feeling that I live in a hostile land and nor do my parents. The only Brazilians who are going to have those negative experiences are the ones who move to xenophobic locations like North Carolina, Arkansas, Cape Cod, etc. Most Brazilians integrate just fine in South Florida, Boston, Providence, New York City, and northern New Jersey.

It's very evident that you are oblivious to the disadvantages related to skin color and race in Brazil. Brazil is good if you're white, look white, or look near it. Otherwise, you're basically treated as the scum of society and many times don't even realize it.

[xanaxonlinexanax]

I was speaking of a group of people who - generally - instead of working to make Brazil better, leave out out of very basic considerations and then blame Brazil for what they did, instead of seeing it is people with their short sighted mentality who hamper our development. Individuals are individuals and I was not speaking of your parents.

Brazil may have many problems, but I'd rather deal with our problems and try to solve them, and live a better life here, than to be a short sighted sell out who prefers to live as a pariah in a foreign hostile land out very primeval consumption reasons.

I see you're calling my parents sellout losers now. You're mature...

Otherwise, you're basically treated as the scum of society and many times don't even realize it.

[voodoosdv]

Fortunately, you're in a position where you don't even need to think of emigrating. An immigrant is only a pariah if they live in a foreign country that is hostile. Not every foreign country is hostile to new immigrants. Location matters. Brazilians integrate just fine in the locations I mentioned in my previous post. Hostile reception is not the norm in most racially diverse settings. Other locations where most Brazilians integrate just fine are Amsterdam and Toronto.

[adactthrd]

Middle Class Brazilians colonized and bought Florida-USA as our New Paraguay. Only the new Brazilian class C will like the breguice from that place. Rich Brazilians go to Europe !

Did the Cubans put it up for sell lol? I am only aware of the Brazilian community in ft lauderdale

[cefunonge]

North Bay Village in Miami-Dade county has the highest concentration of Brazilian residents per capita in Florida. Pompano Beach, Boca Raton, and Deerfield Beach also have visible Brazilian communities.

[piramirra]

Some of the the great things about Brazil are the weather, Carnaval, traditional music and dances

Three things I dislike about Brazil lol

But I think the article is a gross exaggeration with too much stereotyping.

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5. Brazilian women are overly obsessed with their bodies and very critical of (and competitive with) each other.

This I find to be true about many of the women, especially here in Rio. They spend too much time at the gym trying to get bigger butts/thinghs and then showing them off and tanning them at the beach.
I avoid both beaches and gyms like the plague.

[KatoabamyHant]

This I find to be true about many of the women, especially here in Rio. They spend too much time at the gym trying to get bigger butts/thinghs and then showing them off and tanning them at the beach.
I avoid both beaches and gyms like the plague.

Are you portuguese or brazilian

[CaseyFronczek]

Are you portuguese or brazilian

Brazilian... but 3/4 Portuguese by blood.

[JulietOreira]

Three things I dislike about Brazil lol

But I think the article is a gross exaggeration with too much stereotyping.

lol try Boston, then. You'd probably love it here. I'll take Rio's warm weather over Boston's icy winds any day.

I think Carnaval is the unofficial eighth world wonder, IMO. Also, I think it's more of a quintessential Brazilian thing. I've noticed how other Brazilians who are descended from (post-independence) immigrants tend to generally hate Carnaval and samba. I think the lack of relation is because those things are not really part of their culture.

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This I find to be true about many of the women, especially here in Rio. They spend too much time at the gym trying to get bigger butts/thinghs and then showing them off and tanning them at the beach.
I avoid both beaches and gyms like the plague.

[ffdfriendforurr]

lol try Boston, then. You'd probably love it here. I'll take Rio's warm weather over Boston's icy winds any day.

I actually lived near boston for 9 years, in Seekonk, Mass. It was very nice and I still have friends and family there, but I would not go back because my life is here now... I do love Rio despite the heat.

I think Carnaval is the unofficial eighth world wonder, IMO. Also, I think it's more of a quintessential Brazilian thing. I've noticed how other Brazilians who are descended from (post-independence) immigrants tend to generally hate Carnaval and samba. I think the lack of relation is because those things are not really part of their culture. That may be part of the reason... but living in Rio, you really get to see the ugly side of Carnaval. I don´t hate it... I even find many aspects of it to be quite enjoyable, but after observing the negative aspects and dealing with them year after year, I´ve grown weary of the whole spectacle. The city becomes over-crowded with people, many of them international tourists and many from other parts of the country... A good part of them are uneducated and uncivilized and basically low class. Many come exclusively to rob and steal, taking advantage of the crowds and drunkeness. People get so drunk they piss all over the streets... even the women crouch down to pee in the middle of the street parades. There´s also a lot of vomiting. Most of this happends during they day when the heat is almost unbearble this time of year. Add loud and often shitty music. These are the blocos de rua that happen all over the city.
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=28553 (I made a thread about them)
The parades at the Sambadrome are a nice spectacle actually. I usually watch them on tv, but last year my fiance, who is a dj, got invited to play at the Brahma camarote so I went with him. I really enjoyed it.

[doxinwasido]

I have encountered several Brazilians when I studied abroad in Mexico a few years back -- they were nice people; nicer than many of my fellow Americans I grew up around. They partied a lot.

[Roker]

I actually lived near boston for 9 years, in Seekonk, Mass. It was very nice and I still have friends and family there, but I would not go back because my life is here now... I do love Rio despite the heat.

I don't know how you tolerated the freezing cold weather, especially Seekonk's, since you're a native from Rio, I'd imagine the cool chills would be alien to you.

That may be part of the reason... but living in Rio, you really get to see the ugly side of Carnaval. I don´t hate it... I even find many aspects of it to be quite enjoyable, but after observing the negative aspects and dealing with them year after year, I´ve grown weary of the whole spectacle. The city becomes over-crowded with people, many of them international tourists and many from other parts of the country... A good part of them are uneducated and uncivilized and basically low class. Many come exclusively to rob and steal, taking advantage of the crowds and drunkeness. People get so drunk they piss all over the streets... even the women crouch down to pee in the middle of the street parades. There´s also a lot of vomiting. Most of this happends during they day when the heat is almost unbearble this time of year. Add loud and often shitty music. These are the blocos de rua that happen all over the city.
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=28553 (I made a thread about them)
The parades at the Sambadrome are a nice spectacle actually. I usually watch them on tv, but last year my fiance, who is a dj, got invited to play at the Brahma camarote so I went with him. I really enjoyed it.

Damn. I knew it could get bad, but I guess I was a little ignorant to the fact that it would get bad to the point that you couldn't navigate yourself. The picture of the crowd in that thread looked horrendous. As for public urination, I think it's an issue throughout most of Latin America.

See, when I think of Carnaval, I would think of performances like this:



That's why I had a positive image of Carnaval.

[replicajoy]

I don't know how you tolerated the freezing cold weather, especially Seekonk's, since you're a native from Rio, I'd imagine the cool chills would be alien to you.

They probably were at first, but I moved there at a very young age (7), so I grew used to it quickly and adapted very well... too well I guess because nowadays my body is very intolerant to hot weather.