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Old 08-04-2010, 04:06 AM   #1
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Their right hands rise to black-clad chests and flash out in salute to their nation: "Sieg heil!" They praise Hitler's devotion to ethnic purity.

But with their high cheekbones, dark eyes and brown skin, they are hardly the Third Reich's Aryan ideal. A new strain of Nazism has found an unlikely home: Mongolia.

Once again, ultra-nationalists have emerged from an impoverished economy and turned upon outsiders. This time the main targets come from China, the rising power to the south.

Groups such as Tsagaan Khass, or White Swastika, portray themselves as patriots standing up for ordinary citizens in the face of foreign crime, rampant inequality, political indifference and corruption.

But critics say they scapegoat and attack the innocent. The US state department has warned travellers of increased assaults on inter-racial couples in recent years – including organised violence by ultra-nationalist groups.

Dayar Mongol threatened to shave the heads of women who sleep with Chinese men. Three years ago, the leader of Blue Mongol was convicted of murdering his daughter's boyfriend, reportedly because the young man had studied in China.

Though Tsagaan Khass leaders say they do not support violence, they are self-proclaimed Nazis. "Adolf Hitler was someone we respect. He taught us how to preserve national identity," said the 41-year-old co-founder, who calls himself Big Brother.

"We don't agree with his extremism and starting the second world war. We are against all those killings, but we support his ideology. We support nationalism rather than fascism."

It is, by any standards, an extraordinary choice. Under Hitler, Soviet prisoners of war who appeared Mongolian were singled out for execution. More recently, far-right groups in Europe have attacked Mongolian migrants.

Not all ultra-nationalists use this iconography; and widespread ignorance about the Holocaust and other atrocities may help to explain why some do.

Tsagaan Khass points out that the swastika is an ancient Asian symbol – which is true, but does not explain the group's use of Nazi colours, the Nazi eagle and the Nazi salute; or the large picture of the Führer on Big Brother's cigarette case.

Nor does it seem greatly relevant, given their unabashed admiration for Hitler's racial beliefs.

"We have to make sure that as a nation our blood is pure. That's about our independence," said 23-year-old Battur, pointing out that the population is under three million.

"If we start mixing with Chinese, they will slowly swallow us up. Mongolian society is not very rich. Foreigners come with a lot of money and might start taking our women."

Big Brother acknowledges he discovered such ideas through the nationalist groups that emerged in Russia after the Soviet Union's fall; Mongolia had been a satellite state. But the anti-Chinese tinge is distinct and increasingly popular.

"While most people feel far-right discourse is too extreme, there seems to be a consensus that China is imperialistic, 'evil' and intent on taking Mongolia," said Franck Billé of Cambridge University, who is researching representations of Chinese people in Mongolia.

Hip hop tracks such as Don't Go Too Far, You Chinks by 4 Züg – chorus: "shoot them all, all, all" – have been widely played in bars and clubs. Urban myths abound; some believe Beijing has a secret policy of encouraging men to have sex with Mongolian women.

Yet Tsagaan Khass claims it welcomes law-abiding visitors of all races, and Big Brother can certainly be hospitable.

Enthusiastically shaking hands, he says: "Even though you are a British citizen, you are still Asian, and that makes you very cool."

He says the younger members have taught him to be less extreme and the group appears to be reshaping itself – expelling "criminal elements" and insisting on a good education as a prerequisite for membership. One of the leaders is an interior designer.

But critics fear ultra-nationalists are simply becoming more sophisticated and, quietly, more powerful. Tsagaan Khass say it "works closely" with other organisations and is now discussing a merger.

"Some people are in complete denial … [but] we can no longer deny this is a problem," said Anaraa Nyamdorj, of Mongolia's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Centre.

The US state department has noted increased reports of xenophobic attacks since the spring. The UN country review cites a recent vicious assault on three young transgender women. When one of the victims publicly blamed an ultra-nationalist group – not Tsagaan Khass – death threats quickly followed.

"They are getting more support from the public," added Enkhjargal Davaasuren, director of the National Centre Against Violence, who fears that ultra-nationalists are growing more confident and victims too scared to come forward. She pointed to a YouTube video posted last year, showing a man roughly shaving a woman's long hair. The victim's face is buried in her hands, but her hunched body reeks of fear.

Others in Ulan Bator suggest the movement is waning and suspect the groups' menacing stance and claims of 3,000 members are bluster. Billé thinks there is "a lot of posturing".

"We have heard of instances [of violence]. They are not necessarily all right or all wrong," said Javkhlan, a Tsagaan Khass leader. But the group is simply a "law enforcement" body, he maintained: "We do checks; we go to hotels and restaurants to make sure Mongolian girls don't do prostitution and foreigners don't break the laws.

"We don't go through and beat the shit out of everyone. We check our information and make sure it's true."

They rely on police and media pressure to reform such businesses, he added. And if that failed? "We try to avoid using power," he said. "That would be our very last resort."

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...olia-far-right
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:07 AM   #2
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Made me chuckle......
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:08 AM   #3
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That's awesome.

The Indians who greatly admire Hitler are far too pacifistic to be noteworthy.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:16 AM   #4
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That's awesome.

The Indians who greatly admire Hitler are far too pacifistic to be noteworthy.
Hehe, Mein Kampf as a self-improvement guide.

Hitler as management guru in India sparks row

George Joseph in New York | May 24, 2009 19:16 IT

Spiritual guru Sri Sri Ravishankar joined the Jews to oppose the widespread marketing in India of Adolf Hitler's [Images] autobiography, Mein Kampf.

An article in London's [Images] Daily Telegraph last month reported that sales of Mein Kampf 'are soaring in India where business students regard the genocidal dictator (Hitler) as a management guru' and consider the book to be a 'management guide.'

"Anyone seeking to teach tomorrow's business leaders of India should reject globalisation of hate and racism, not facilitating it," said Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Associate Dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, a leading Jewish NGO at the United Nations.

"Using Mein Kampf as a self-improvement and strategy guide for India's young is an outrage that dishonours six million Jews murdered by the Nazis in the Holocaust and millions of other victims of Adolf Hitler's murderous Third Reich. Honouring and promoting Hitler's white racist ideology mocks the values of the world's largest democracy, and flies in the face of India's noble history of protecting minority peoples, Jews among them" he added.

"India has always been a haven to people of all religious identities and has had a legacy of protecting them. We should be happy to promote lessons from the lives of people who have helped unite mankind. There are many available books that would serve as inspirational management guides for India's youth," Sri Sri Ravi Shankar said.

"We request that publishing companies, bookstores and educators across India immediately cease marketing Mein Kampf as a management guide. This book ought only to be studied in the context of the tragedy of the Holocaust," Cooper and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar concluded.

The Simon Wiesenthal Centre is one of the largest international Jewish human rights organisations with over 400,000 member families in the United States. The Wiesenthal Centre and the Art Of Living Foundation have collaborated on a multi-faith anti-terrorism conference in Bali, Indonesia and in the presentation of an exhibition on the Nazi Holocaust, Courage To Remember at the Gandhi Cultural Centre in New Delhi [Images] and in Bangalore.

An article in Jewish Chronicle published from London said that 'sales of Mein Kampf topped 10,000 in New Delhi alone in the past six months and are expected to rise further. A spokesman for Embassy Books in Mumbai [Images], who publish Mein Kampf, said people are looking at it from a business angle, especially as Hitler had such a strong influence on the world.'

'Students are told to use Mein Kampf and draw parallels with India to learn business strategies. Even for non-students Hitler's books are popular texts and are clearly displayed in most book stores around India.'

'A business student living in Mumbai said that many people in India see Hitler as a good role model for directing a company and cite him as an inspiration in people management,' the article said.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:19 AM   #5
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Well,as I know Mongolians and Japanese aren't "Yellow Mongoloids" at all.Genghis Khan was definetely blue eyed and reddish haired.Check that:
http://www.white-history.com/earlson/genghis.htm
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:21 AM   #6
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Well,as I know Mongolians and Japanese aren't "Yellow Mongoloids" at all.Genghis Khan was definetely blue eyed and reddish haired.Check that:
http://www.white-history.com/earlson/genghis.htm
Well, his mother was a Christian, so his genetic make-up is fairly confusing. I don't think there were any Christian missionaries in Mongolia proper.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:22 AM   #7
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Well,as I know Mongolians and Japanese aren't "Yellow Mongoloids" at all.Genghis Khan was definetely blue eyed and reddish haired.Check that:
http://www.white-history.com/earlson/genghis.htm
Lmao Aryan Genghis Khan, yeah fucking right! Mongolians are mostly Tungid, they overlap with the northern Han, Manchurians, and Koreans phenotypically.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:28 AM   #8
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Lmao Aryan Genghis Khan, yeah fucking right! Mongolians are mostly Tungid, they overlap with the northern Han, Manchurians, and Koreans phenotypically.
don't be so sure! Look at this video of Genghis.





Looks pretty caucasian to me.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:42 AM   #9
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Well, his mother was a Christian, so his genetic make-up is fairly confusing. I don't think there were any Christian missionaries in Mongolia proper.
Actually, a large portion of the Mongolian population back then was Christian. They belonged to the Nestorian church, which spread to Mongolia from the Middle East by means of the Silk Road.

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don't be so sure! Look at this video of Genghis.





Looks pretty caucasian to me.
Yeah, same way Xerxes was a 2 m tall gay mulatto with piercings all over his body.
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:07 AM   #10
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I bet uncle Adolf would wet himself
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:19 AM   #11
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Actually, a large portion of the Mongolian population back then was Christian. They belonged to the Nestorian church, which spread to Mongolia from the Middle East by means of the Silk Road.
I'm embarrassed. I read a good bio on Temujin a few years ago which had a long section about his early life, and yet I forgot that part.
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:32 AM   #12
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mongol master race!!! sieg khan!!
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:52 AM   #13
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Well,as I know Mongolians and Japanese aren't "Yellow Mongoloids" at all.Genghis Khan was definetely blue eyed and reddish haired.Check that:
http://www.white-history.com/earlson/genghis.htm
LOL @ a Mongo turk reading white history.com.
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Old 08-04-2010, 06:06 AM   #14
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LOL @ a Mongo turk reading white history.com.
If it writes smth true,why shouldn't I read?
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Old 08-04-2010, 06:07 AM   #15
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If it writes smth true,why shouldn't I read?
LOL @ you thinking white history.com is true
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Old 08-04-2010, 06:08 AM   #16
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LOL @ you thinking white history.com is true
partially
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Old 08-04-2010, 06:20 AM   #17
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LOL....those skinhead nutjobs would probably stab any of these guys on sight!
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:18 PM   #18
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LOL....those skinhead nutjobs would probably stab any of these guys on sight!
That would be foolish. Azn's are called Mongoloids for a reason. You don't want to fuck with these guys.

They'll jump on their horse or their nearest animal, hunt the skinheads down, and shoot them with bows and arrows, gangsta style.

That's how they do it in the far east side. DRIVE BYYYYY!!
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:30 PM   #19
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I bet uncle Adolf would wet himself
I bet he'd be something like this:
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:33 PM   #20
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I bet he'd be something like this:
God, I love those Hitler videos.
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