[puzobok]

You know very little about the ancient history of Northeast Africa and you cling desparately on the term "Black"etc because it is the only identity that you have since your Slave Master had given you that term in the first place
You're not Nubian nor are you a neighbour or even linked to that specific group so stop trolling "Wannabe". I could easily call myself an "Ethiopian" or "Oromo" because I have ancestral roots from Ethiopia. However, I do not engage in their culture nor does my family indentify themselves as "Ethiopians", but specifically "Turkana" or "Kenyan/African". Get your own indentity! No offense!!
Many if not all West Africans have little to no roots to Nubia/Kush...

Europeans know very little about Africa and believe all its success is linked to Europeans arriving in Africa to establish a civilization or something of a similar matter.

I think you should read this post for some info...http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=30162

There are connections between Nubia and Western African People

[RagonaCon]

I think you should read this post for some info...http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=30162

There are connections between Nubia and Western African People

That why I said very "Little"...I know there are certain groups that have links, but that is small percentage out of the whole population of West Africa. You see what I mean!

[Ambrakam]

Louis Farrakhan_ http://rollingout.com/wp-content/upl...rakhan-web.jpg Debbi Morgan_ http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/upl...bbi-morgan.jpg _ Taraji Henson_ http://smartsexyrichcrazy.com/wp-con...day-taraji.jpg - TigerWoods_ http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iTGXYFIkfk...iger-Woods.jpg - Calvin ''snoop'' Croadus_ http://thebestofwho.com/wp-content/u...-in-Bones..jpg Bob Marley_ http://www.barewalls.com/i/c/495965_...p-Stand-Up.jpg Diana Ross_ http://www.hamptons.com/gallery/article/1096d.jpg - Cynthia Bailey_ http://thebuzzinthecity.com/wp-conte...rek-Blanks.jpg young Beverly Johnson_ http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fVYegcFiyX...amour+1972.jpg

no, none of these do, but there are some new world mixes that could arbitrarily pass for horner.

[wmirkru]

That why I said very "Little"...I know there are certain groups that have links, but that is small percentage out of the whole population of West Africa. You see what I mean!

From what I know so far.
Balanta
Wolof
Fulani (largest nomadic tribe in the World)
Hausa
Yoruba
Dogan

All have connections with East Africa.

This is more than a significant amount. Im sure there are others Im not saying they should all claim Nubia and blah blah...im just saying they are related people no doubt

[Cydayshosse]

From what I know so far.
Balanta
Wolof
Fulani (largest nomadic tribe in the World)
Hausa
Yoruba
Dogan

All have connections with East Africa.

This is more than a significant amount. Im sure there are others Im not saying they should all claim Nubia and blah blah...im just saying they are related people no doubt

I wouldn't consider them descendants of Nubians, but I agree with them being somewhat linked to East Africans. I will repeat again, very few have Nubian roots and just because they come from The Sudan does not mean they have ancestral roots from Nubia. Fuck it if they have Nubian roots then all of Africa has Nubian roots and that to me sounds idiotic...it be like saying all Irish people have Germanic ancestral roots because they have Celtic blood

[Madjostok]

I wouldn't consider them descendants of Nubians, but I agree with them being somewhat linked to East Africans. I will repeat again, very few have Nubian roots and just because they come from The Sudan does not mean they have ancestral roots from Nubia. Fuck it if they have Nubian roots then all of Africa has Nubian roots and that to me sounds idiotic...it be like saying all Irish people have Germanic ancestral roots because they have Celtic blood

Just like I said most africans do have Nubian roots, besides tribes like the Khoisan, and the Twa (so called pygmy). And you are WRONG, there are strong connections. Today, the Nubas of the Nuba Mountains are direct descendants of the ancient Nubians, The Nuer People of Sudan, the Dinkas and a number of "Nilotic" peoples as well as many people in East&West Africa of Bantu linguistic origins are also of Nubian origins. In fact, although it is said that the Bantu ( Ba-Ntu ) migrated from Nigeria to populate the rest of Southern Africa about five thousand years ago, there is a significant of what appears to be close linguistic similarities between some Nilotic and ancient Egyptian and Cushite languages with the Bantu Languages, both of which originated in the Sahara.

[TZtrDuso]

Just like I said most africans do have Nubian roots, besides tribes like the Khoisan, and the Twa (so called pygmy). And you are WRONG, there are strong connections. Today, the Nubas of the Nuba Mountains are direct descendants of the ancient Nubians, The Nuer People of Sudan, the Dinkas and a number of "Nilotic" peoples as well as many people in East&West Africa of Bantu linguistic origins are also of Nubian origins. In fact, although it is said that the Bantu ( Ba-Ntu ) migrated from Nigeria to populate the rest of Southern Africa about five thousand years ago, there is a significant of what appears to be close linguistic similarities between some Nilotic and ancient Egyptian and Cushite languages with the Bantu Languages, both of which originated in the Sahara.

I can understand Nilotic, Cushitic and Egyptian languages having a close link together, but Bantu linguistic is far from those mentioned above. There is little connection. They speak completely different and if they do have similaries then it must have been adopted by them when they arrived in East Africa first, AKA Kikuyu (Bantu) have adopted alot of Maasai customs (Nilotic) but this does not mean they're closely related to each other even though they have mixed ancestry and similar customs. The Kikuyu's are basically Nilo-Bantus. If you claim most Africans have Nubian roots then by all means Europeans should claim roots to Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, Pharoah's of Egypt, Ancient Hebrews/and Caananites, Assyrians and Persians.

I'm deeply offended that you have taken the Nubian title as I consider you to be an Afram and nothing further or lesser than that. Ptah!

Just because a group of nomads from Sudan migrated Westwards 10,000 years or so does not make you a direct descendant of Nubia...

[sueplydup]

I can understand Nilotic, Cushitic and Egyptian languages having a close link together, but Bantu linguistic is far from those mentioned above. There is little connection. They speak completely different and if they do have similaries then it must have been adopted by them when they arrived in East Africa first, AKA Kikuyu (Bantu) have adopted alot of Maasai customs (Nilotic) but this does not mean they're closely related to each other even though they have mixed ancestry and similar customs. The Kikuyu's are basically Nilo-Bantus. If you claim most Africans have Nubian roots then by all means Europeans should claim roots to Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, Pharoah's of Egypt, Ancient Hebrews/and Caananites, Assyrians and Persians.

I'm deeply offended that you have taken the Nubian title as I consider you to be an Afram and nothing further or lesser than that. Ptah!

Just because a group of nomads from Sudan migrated Westwards 10,000 years or so does not make you a direct descendant of Nubia...

By all means people trace their origin in AFRICA (NUBIA). And I do NOT even know what the hell an ?Afram? is. If you knew basic african history you would know Nubia was one of the original names of the ENTIRE land mass.

[Unamannuato]

By all means people trace their origin in AFRICA (NUBIA). And I do NOT even know what the hell an ?Afram? is. If you knew basic african history you would know Nubia was one of the original names of the ENTIRE land mass.

Which has nothing to do with Nubia and that term isn't used today to refer to Africa so quite trolling Nigguh!!!!!

[IronpumpedLady]

Which has nothing to do with Nubia and that term isn't used today to refer to Africa so quite trolling Nigguh!!!!!

Excuse me . You are very ignorant YOU SHOULD FEEL VERY DUMB, Im done with the debate, I won, let me know what hell feels like.

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no, none of these do, but there are some new world mixes that could arbitrarily pass for horner.

OKAY may i see one or two of them.

[resegooredo]

These Afro - Americans have a closer affiliation to the "Ethiopid" look, not the ones that were originally posted.

Lorenzo Romar



Mowry twins



Kerry Washington



Micheal Steele



Pam Greir



Swizz Beats



Lloyd

[idobestbuyonlinepp]

Why do certain Aframs post pictures of Aframs and claim them to be looking somewhat "Ethiopoid"...nobody cares...it doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

[NarhozNic]

Why do certain Aframs post pictures of Aframs and claim them to be looking somewhat "Ethiopoid"...nobody cares...it doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

For the same reason they post pictures comparing certain Aframs to Melansians or certain
West African groups. Merely discussing similarities.(in most cases not involving trolls)

[Evoryboypoto]

Yeah always trust someone with horn-african(iateyourheadphons) to know if someone can pass for ethopian or not. I think none of the original examples look east-african(though Beverly Johnson comes the closest). But I always though kobe bryant had alittle somalian vibe about him





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Lloyd

and Lloyd does look weird for black american, not only does he look ethiopian but when he straightened his hair in the "Girls Around The World" video, I heard many south indians saying that he can somewhat pass for a dark indian.

[tussinelde]

These Afro - Americans have a closer affiliation to the "Ethiopid" look, not the ones that were originally posted.

Lorenzo Romar



Mowry twins



Kerry Washington



Micheal Steele



Pam Greir



Swizz Beats



Lloyd

Well I'm glad we agreed on Pam Grier then. But I still really think Beverly Johnson, Debbi Morgan and Snoop came very close since i've seen Ethiopians that resemble them.

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Okay_ check out these as well- http://www.socialwelfarehistory.com/...WEB-DuBois.jpg - (another of snoop) http://www.electricpig.co.uk/wp-cont...snoop_dogg.jpg - Traci Ross- http://4.bp.blogspot.com/- awKy7n1_ht0/TwyS8wImyCI/AAAAAAAAAx4/ArsytdjIy-Y/s1600/tracee_ellis_ross8.jpeg

[wizardasa]

good!!!!!!!!!!! nice!!!!!!!!!

[iceleliewBync]

I wouldn't consider them descendants of Nubians, but I agree with them being somewhat linked to East Africans. I will repeat again, very few have Nubian roots and just because they come from The Sudan does not mean they have ancestral roots from Nubia. Fuck it if they have Nubian roots then all of Africa has Nubian roots and that to me sounds idiotic...it be like saying all Irish people have Germanic ancestral roots because they have Celtic blood

Well then that would be true. The Celts took up a good portion of Europe, in what is now Spain, France, Germany,Italy, Greece. You just may have proved that Nubians begat a whole lot of people In Africa. If you haven't noticed people just don't stay put.

[CevepBiageCefm]

Just like I said most africans do have Nubian roots, besides tribes like the Khoisan, and the Twa (so called pygmy). And you are WRONG, there are strong connections. Today, the Nubas of the Nuba Mountains are direct descendants of the ancient Nubians, The Nuer People of Sudan, the Dinkas and a number of "Nilotic" peoples as well as many people in East&West Africa of Bantu linguistic origins are also of Nubian origins. In fact, although it is said that the Bantu ( Ba-Ntu ) migrated from Nigeria to populate the rest of Southern Africa about five thousand years ago, there is a significant of what appears to be close linguistic similarities between some Nilotic and ancient Egyptian and Cushite languages with the Bantu Languages, both of which originated in the Sahara.

Some of what you are saying is just internet 'here-say' / nonsense - Hardly any of this is REAL scholarship. Can you provide a source about similarities between Nilotic and Egyptian/Cushitic? What about Cushitic and Bantu? .............or even a Cushitic or Bantu origin in the Sahara? Provide a source other than "Clyde Winters"

On another note the term "Nubian" has been a generic term used to describe African Americans for a VERY long time....similar to the way they used the term "Ethiopian". (See Negro league team "Ethiopian Clowns") - In that context i dont think its an issue. You can never know the motives of people so I dont think its correct to describe folks as "Wannabees".

Being "African Americans" is not static.........people change their "ethnicity", I know more than a few that are "Arabized" and speak arabic/english - Africans do this too and consider themselves "Arabs". There are Aframs that adopt West African culture through marriage. For all intents and purposes my kids will be "Ethiopian" and be bilingual...If I moved to Ethiopia we would just be 'absorbed' into that society. How different is this from West Africans switching ethnicity due to whatever reasons or Children being "Jewish because their mother is Jewish"........."Arab because their father is Arab"...being "Egyptian".............cause they "Adopted Egyptian culture and language" ?

People seem to have issues with you calling yourself something now seen as a "Distinct" unit. Personally i could care less what people call themselves. Yeah i think its dumb that that guy changed his name to "Sara Suten Seti" and gave his twins Egypto-Nubian names but --- whatever.

If you really want to be Nubian move to Sudan, learn the language and marry a Nubian.

[NETvoyne]

Yeah always trust someone with horn-african(iateyourheadphons) to know if someone can pass for ethopian or not. I think none of the original examples look east-african(though Beverly Johnson comes the closest). But I always though kobe bryant had alittle somalian vibe about him



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Kobe doesn't really look horner.. despite the elongated look.. the people posted by ihateyourheadphones do though

[SarkisPioute]

Kobe doesn't really look horner.. despite the elongated look.. the people posted by ihateyourheadphones do though

arent these guys horner's

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ont_rebels.JPG

http://www.newsdire.com/uploads/post...lflastlegs.jpg

and these guys are the ancestors of somalis and at the same time got a kobe look