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Old 07-17-2010, 06:57 AM   #1
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Default why are africans considered black?
I just was thinking like there are a lot of indians in this world with australoid heritage and everyone knows that many people of australoid race get to the darkest of brown. So what made people decide to make africans black exclusively?


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Old 07-17-2010, 07:45 AM   #2
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Because their skin colour is black.
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:53 AM   #3
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Because their skin colour is black.
but australoid people are dark brown as well why does one get that while the other doesn't?
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:59 AM   #4
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Because the Euros sailed to Sub Saharan Africa before they went to the pacific islands. Black is a subjective term anyways, Caucausus peoples in Russia are called black because they are darker than the average ethnic Russian.
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:01 AM   #5
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Weren't Australoids considered "black"/negroid anyway until modern advances in genetics?
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:44 AM   #6
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Weren't Australoids considered "black"/negroid anyway until modern advances in genetics?
Hey, what did they do exacly to improve on the gentics of Australoids? That sounds a bit much don't you think?
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:46 AM   #7
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Africans are not black, what you are trying to refer is sub-saharans. Because Africans can be any type of ethnic / racial / sub-racial group inside of the African continent, like the bushmen down south ( who aren't even close to black they range from dark brownish to a bit light brownish). black is a term mainly to identify someone who's from Sub-sahara africa or has sub-saharan origins, and that's fairly dark, almost looking like 'black" even tho they aren't really that color. "White" (people) as I told you before is another example..
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:02 AM   #8
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Hey, what did they do exacly to improve on the gentics of Australoids? That sounds a bit much don't you think?
I don't know if my wording was murky but I meant the mapping out of their genes that led to the discovery of them being more related to Southeast Asians than to Africans.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:10 AM   #9
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noone outside of australia and anthropology/race forums knows about them
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:37 AM   #10
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^ The sad truth.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:45 AM   #11
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I just was thinking like there are a lot of indians in this world with australoid heritage and everyone knows that many people of australoid race get to the darkest of brown. So what made people decide to make africans black exclusively?


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anyone want to answer at all
Because the white man says you are and the white man knows best whatever one outside of Europe should be called. If you're dark of skin and full of sin, praise white Jesus. LOL

I seriously don't think any subSahara Africans saw themselves as "black" or as one people. Besides some elite Euro influenced colonial brainwashed folks, most Africans still don't, not really. Just like most continental Europeans are not obsessed with the term "white".

You are black because some dumb Portuguese went to Africa and called you a Negro because his "off white" ass thought you were the darkest mofo he had ever seen and he was the lightest, and he wanted to exaggerate and degrade you.

Its that simple.

90% of Africans are brown, 75% of Europeans are pink, the rest olive color or a very light brown (tan)...
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:23 AM   #12
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noone outside of australia and anthropology/race forums knows about them
One of the things I learned about them, is that they carry a fair amount of mongoloid traits/genes..
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:30 AM   #13
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lol @ Elias and not banning this troll yet.

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I just was thinking like there are a lot of indians in this world with australoid heritage and everyone knows that many people of australoid race get to the darkest of brown. So what made people decide to make africans black exclusively?
The bulk of Indian who have "Australoid heritage" fall rather in between Caucasoid/GracileIndid and Weddid/Australoid. Seldom do you find extremely Weddoid individuals outside of Adivasis and Dalits anywhere South East of Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh. And the South is also rather stabilized and in between (Melanid) rather than predominantly Australoid, save Tamil Nadu.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:29 PM   #14
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lol @ Elias and not banning this troll yet.

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The bulk of Indian who have "Australoid heritage" fall rather in between Caucasoid/GracileIndid and Weddid/Australoid. Seldom do you find extremely Weddoid individuals outside of Adivasis and Dalits anywhere South East of Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh. And the South is also rather stabilized and in between (Melanid) rather than predominantly Australoid, save Tamil Nadu.
She is not referring to the race, she is referring to the skin color. For example many South Asians are darker than many Nigerian delta people, we all know South Asians are mainly Caucasoid but many of them are very dark in skin tone if not black .

You can see these Sri Lankans are darker than these Igbos

South Asians - Sri Lankan
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Igbo
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Her question is why are Sub Saharan Africans considered 'black' when many of us are not literally 'black'. My Igbo dad has yellowish skin colour and he is lighter than many Sri Lankans.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:34 PM   #15
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A lot of you are quite ignorant, almost moronic. You don't know real Africans. You haven't been to Africa. What you know comes from some fifth hand source or what you see in your country, and you think the people who are called Black in your country are the same as Black Africans who also look like Beyonce or Michael Jackson or Lena Horne or Jesse Jackson or Oprah Winfrey or Whoopi Goldberg. Those New Worlders are all mongrels, Americanoid creations of Colonization, genetically a bit of everything usually the crap of every race less the kitchen sink. I have been to Africa, there are many Africans here in Australia from all the major trouble spots which seems like most of that continent and I am telling you most sub Saharan Africans don't look like Beyonce or Michael Jackson or Cassius Marcellus Clay or Frosty the Snowman. They are uniformly Black. Black is the nearest shade to their skin color, not dark brown, not chocolate but black. The difference is the depth and shine of the black. Have any of you seen a real full blooded Southern Sudanese? I guess not from your level of ignorance. They are super black, actually quite beautifully black. In their case black is definitely beautiful. Not those horrid half breeds in the north of Sudan, real Sudanese people. In my town the Sudanese tend to work in the supermarkets, doing security work, teaching and nursing. They work quite hard and are an affable people. That is the difference between the ratbags here in this forum who think they are Black and real African Blacks. You and they cannot be compared. You are fakes, the great pretenders and they are the real deal. I doubt the goose that started this thread knows much about Africa or Africans or anything else for that matter. A real fuckhead.

As to Australian Aborigines, I see quite a few when I go to town and of various tribal nations. They are almost uniformly black skinned, some are as shiny and black as the Southern Sudanese, but most are a dull black. Nothing dark brown about them. There are South Asians in my town also. They tend to be various shades of brown, a few are near Aborigine black but not many. Australoid is rather a loose descriptor. There is very little similarity between Australian Aborigines, Papuans, Melanesians, some Micronesians, SE Asian Negritos, Andaman Islanders, South Asian Weddids. They vary more than than the other groups. It is not fair to throw in KhoiSanids or Pygmoid groups in Africa as they are minor African ethnic groups, and they will become extinct.

If you haven't noticed, no White person is White. Lots of colors but not white.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:38 PM   #16
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^^^ For the most part I agree with what you wrote Graeme but South Sudanese do not represent the whole of Africa. Many South Eastern Nigerians are lighter than Sri Lankans, also South African Bantus can be very light as well as Khoisans, but yes South Sudanese are very near black.
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Old 07-17-2010, 03:03 PM   #17
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A lot of you are quite ignorant, almost moronic. You don't know real Africans. You haven't been to Africa. What you know comes from some fifth hand source or what you see in your country, and you think the people who are called Black in your country are the same as Black Africans who also look like Beyonce or Michael Jackson or Lena Horne or Jesse Jackson or Oprah Winfrey or Whoopi Goldberg. Those New Worlders are all mongrels, Americanoid creations of Colonization, genetically a bit of everything usually the crap of every race less the kitchen sink. I have been to Africa, there are many Africans here in Australia from all the major trouble spots which seems like most of that continent and I am telling you most sub Saharan Africans don't look like Beyonce or Michael Jackson or Cassius Marcellus Clay or Frosty the Snowman. They are uniformly Black. Black is the nearest shade to their skin color, not dark brown, not chocolate but black. The difference is the depth and shine of the black. Have any of you seen a real full blooded Southern Sudanese? I guess not from your level of ignorance. They are super black, actually quite beautifully black. In their case black is definitely beautiful. Not those horrid half breeds in the north of Sudan, real Sudanese people. In my town the Sudanese tend to work in the supermarkets, doing security work, teaching and nursing. They work quite hard and are an affable people. That is the difference between the ratbags here in this forum who think they are Black and real African Blacks. You and they cannot be compared. You are fakes, the great pretenders and they are the real deal. I doubt the goose that started this thread knows much about Africa or Africans or anything else for that matter. A real fuckhead.

As to Australian Aborigines, I see quite a few when I go to town and of various tribal nations. They are almost uniformly black skinned, some are as shiny and black as the Southern Sudanese, but most are a dull black. Nothing dark brown about them. There are South Asians in my town also. They tend to be various shades of brown, a few are near Aborigine black but not many. Australoid is rather a loose descriptor. There is very little similarity between Australian Aborigines, Papuans, Melanesians, some Micronesians, SE Asian Negritos, Andaman Islanders, South Asian Weddids. They vary more than than the other groups. It is not fair to throw in KhoiSanids or Pygmoid groups in Africa as they are minor African ethnic groups, and they will become extinct.

If you haven't noticed, no White person is White. Lots of colors but not white.
What the hell does a "real" African look like and cite your sources numbskull and what it up with your constant jackass personal attacks on New World Blacks? lets get something straight moron, you are *NOT* an advocate for Southern Sudanese nor Aborigines, Sudanese are not a dull black but a very deep dark brown color. And what do you know about real Africans and real blacks you half breed Arab Maltese troll? If you're that jealous and mad at American achievements and supremacy over the world just admit it.
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:44 PM   #18
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A lot of you are quite ignorant, almost moronic. You don't know real Africans. You haven't been to Africa. What you know comes from some fifth hand source or what you see in your country, and you think the people who are called Black in your country are the same as Black Africans who also look like Beyonce or Michael Jackson or Lena Horne or Jesse Jackson or Oprah Winfrey or Whoopi Goldberg. Those New Worlders are all mongrels, Americanoid creations of Colonization, genetically a bit of everything usually the crap of every race less the kitchen sink. I have been to Africa, there are many Africans here in Australia from all the major trouble spots which seems like most of that continent and I am telling you most sub Saharan Africans don't look like Beyonce or Michael Jackson or Cassius Marcellus Clay or Frosty the Snowman. They are uniformly Black. Black is the nearest shade to their skin color, not dark brown, not chocolate but black. The difference is the depth and shine of the black. Have any of you seen a real full blooded Southern Sudanese? I guess not from your level of ignorance. They are super black, actually quite beautifully black. In their case black is definitely beautiful. Not those horrid half breeds in the north of Sudan, real Sudanese people. In my town the Sudanese tend to work in the supermarkets, doing security work, teaching and nursing. They work quite hard and are an affable people. That is the difference between the ratbags here in this forum who think they are Black and real African Blacks. You and they cannot be compared. You are fakes, the great pretenders and they are the real deal. I doubt the goose that started this thread knows much about Africa or Africans or anything else for that matter. A real fuckhead.

As to Australian Aborigines, I see quite a few when I go to town and of various tribal nations. They are almost uniformly black skinned, some are as shiny and black as the Southern Sudanese, but most are a dull black. Nothing dark brown about them. There are South Asians in my town also. They tend to be various shades of brown, a few are near Aborigine black but not many. Australoid is rather a loose descriptor. There is very little similarity between Australian Aborigines, Papuans, Melanesians, some Micronesians, SE Asian Negritos, Andaman Islanders, South Asian Weddids. They vary more than than the other groups. It is not fair to throw in KhoiSanids or Pygmoid groups in Africa as they are minor African ethnic groups, and they will become extinct.

If you haven't noticed, no White person is White. Lots of colors but not white.
Dude, I've been to Kenya, Tanzania, and Zambia. Most of those people are just as dark as me or often even lighter than me.

You are from Australia and act like you know something about the United States, I'm quite sure we have a lot more African immigrants than you do.


My Uncle is a Nigerian from the Delta. I've seen a lot of Africa, they are the exact same skin color as my father's family and just barely darker than I am (actually some of them are lighter than me). Many South African Bantu are also lighter than I am.


There skin is not "black" it is chocolate or even a light brown.

Sudanese Nitoloids are not even close to representative of the African continent, neither are most Sengalese.

1/4 of Africans live in NIgeria, and the average Nigeria does not at all look like a Southern Sudanese and most EUropeans had never seen a Southern Sudanese when they started calling Africans "negro".


This is my cousin (who is half African American/Nigerian, and her two Aunts, who are both fully NIgerian from the Niger Delta (Immigrants)

http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/20..._6750342_n.jpg

They don't look "black" to me, they are brown, one of them the aunt in the middle is slightly lighter than I am. Dumb ass.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:02 PM   #19
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She is not referring to the race, she is referring to the skin color. For example many South Asians are darker than many Nigerian delta people, we all know South Asians are mainly Caucasoid but many of them are very dark in skin tone if not black .
That is irrelevant. "Black" means nothing in a intellectual context. Look at the Igbos and look at the Sri Lankan (who is Tamil and not Sinhalese, btw). The Tamil has a narrower and higher pitched nose and isnt as archaemorphic as an Australian Aborigine whereas the Igbos have typical Negroid features save their skin tone. Skin tone doesn't mean a sh*t in the grander scheme of things, which is why pondering over why Sub-Saharids are called Black is useless and redundant. The Sri Lankan man is a Tamil, who are despised by the Sinhalese (the standard Sri Lankans) as being dark and ugly. The Sinhalese are equally Melanid, but more GracileIndiform than Weddiform. They are lighter skinned and sharper featured than Central Indians even.
Her question is why are Sub Saharan Africans considered 'black' when many of us are not literally 'black'. My Igbo dad has yellowish skin colour and he is lighter than many Sri Lankans. A better term would be Negrid, but in casual speech, the average "Black individual" would be offended, I think.
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Old 07-18-2010, 12:12 AM   #20
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A lot of you are quite ignorant, almost moronic. You don't know real Africans. You haven't been to Africa. What you know comes from some fifth hand source or what you see in your country, and you think the people who are called Black in your country are the same as Black Africans who also look like Beyonce or Michael Jackson or Lena Horne or Jesse Jackson or Oprah Winfrey or Whoopi Goldberg. Those New Worlders are all mongrels, Americanoid creations of Colonization, genetically a bit of everything usually the crap of every race less the kitchen sink. I have been to Africa, there are many Africans here in Australia from all the major trouble spots which seems like most of that continent and I am telling you most sub Saharan Africans don't look like Beyonce or Michael Jackson or Cassius Marcellus Clay or Frosty the Snowman. They are uniformly Black. Black is the nearest shade to their skin color, not dark brown, not chocolate but black. The difference is the depth and shine of the black. Have any of you seen a real full blooded Southern Sudanese? I guess not from your level of ignorance. They are super black, actually quite beautifully black. In their case black is definitely beautiful. Not those horrid half breeds in the north of Sudan, real Sudanese people. In my town the Sudanese tend to work in the supermarkets, doing security work, teaching and nursing. They work quite hard and are an affable people. That is the difference between the ratbags here in this forum who think they are Black and real African Blacks. You and they cannot be compared. You are fakes, the great pretenders and they are the real deal. I doubt the goose that started this thread knows much about Africa or Africans or anything else for that matter. A real fuckhead.

As to Australian Aborigines, I see quite a few when I go to town and of various tribal nations. They are almost uniformly black skinned, some are as shiny and black as the Southern Sudanese, but most are a dull black. Nothing dark brown about them. There are South Asians in my town also. They tend to be various shades of brown, a few are near Aborigine black but not many. Australoid is rather a loose descriptor. There is very little similarity between Australian Aborigines, Papuans, Melanesians, some Micronesians, SE Asian Negritos, Andaman Islanders, South Asian Weddids. They vary more than than the other groups. It is not fair to throw in KhoiSanids or Pygmoid groups in Africa as they are minor African ethnic groups, and they will become extinct.

If you haven't noticed, no White person is White. Lots of colors but not white.
That's like saying you have to be nordic to be white. Most Africans are some sort of dark brown, not black as coal.

A European could have "psuedo-negroid" features and they would be considered alpine or whatever ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...n_eu/img/8.jpg ), but if a sub-saharan african doesn't look like this they must be mixed with eurasian:
http://presentmedia.com/drpoverty/pi...oy%20LARGE.jpg

Sub-Saharan africans come in a variety of phenotypes/sub-races, just like europeans..
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