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Old 01-22-2012, 09:57 PM   #21
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and there would be anything wrong If she didn't see herself as black but mixed
There should be nothing wrong about whether she wants indentify herself as ethier black or mixed, but I'll understand if she picked her "Black" side.
For example you! Can you identify yourself as a "Berber" even though you may have Jewish, SSA and Levant admixture...Regardless of what anyone says you Identify yourself as a North African Berber. Why? Well culturally speaking you feel closer to them, and also you resemble them/Blend in, so no questions...
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:25 AM   #22
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I don't think there is anything wrong with acknowledging all of your ancestry. If you know it claim it. You are what you are. Even though I identify as a Black woman I will still acknowledge my Native ancestry. Nothing wrong with that. No one should lie and deny their non Black ancestry just because of feeling like someone will shut them down.
Co-sign with this. I think it comes from an inferiority complex to shut someone else down who does acknowledge their non Black ancestry.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:24 AM   #23
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Whenever Aframs are sucessful, sexy, or anything positive, people will remind them of their mixture

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When they are involved in crime, are unattrative, or anything negative, they are just Black
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:32 AM   #24
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Whenever Aframs are sucessful, sexy, or anything positive, people will remind them of their mixture

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When they are involved in crime, are unattrative, or anything negative, they are just Black
True! That is so very true!
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:36 AM   #25
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Beyonce isn't mulatto, so I don't now why L'Oreal went to those extremes. I could see if both parents where French Creole, but her mother is.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:36 AM   #26
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I wonder how non-afram parents feel when their half-afram children aren't allowed or don't want to acknowledge their other ancestry.
I wouldn't want to have a son or daughter that denied or ignored me
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:40 AM   #27
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I wonder how non-afram parents feel when their half-afram children aren't allowed or don't want to acknowledge their other ancestry.
I wouldn't want to have a son or daughter that denied or ignored me
Well...it depends on what the other side is. It could be Afram/some other Black. Then Black would suffice, but sometimes (for example) they say I'm half Afram and half Jamaican. But if it were Afram/non-Black, then idk....but most mixed people I know have no problem with identifying with both.

One drop rule has screwed everyone up.

I had had said that some Mexicans are mixed with Native American, therefore they aren't completely white.

This was someone responded to me on youtube.

Mexican is a white race but aren't really called 'white' because of their darker skin colouring, but they are Caucasian. Latinas are too. Native American is Indian and if they were in the melting pot, then they'd just be a West Asian race because Caucasian genes will simply be replaced. A Caucasian cannot have African ancestry, they'll just be black because they cannot mix races unlike Blacks and Asians. Hope this helps Now I don't know if it's just me, but this makes no sense.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:44 AM   #28
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Is it more acceptable for an Afram to acknowledge for example some Chinese ancestry than Irish (or any other form of Euro ancestry)?
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:45 AM   #29
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Co-sign with this. I think it comes from an inferiority complex to shut someone else down who does acknowledge their non Black ancestry.
I suppose you've read the Megan Fox thread?......hmmmm?
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:45 AM   #30
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Is it more acceptable for an Afram to acknowledge for example some Chinese ancestry than Irish (or any other form of Euro ancestry)?
It's not acceptable period. At least from my experience.

But if they had to choose, it would be more acceptable to acknowledge the Irish, because of the fact that it's more common than being Chinese.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:48 AM   #31
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True! That is so very true!
Weren't you just critisizing white celebrities for claiming NA?.....

double standard on this thread much?
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:48 AM   #32
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Now I don't know if it's just me, but this makes no sense.
Lmao No it doesn't make sense. Mexican is just a nationality and people can be Mexican regardless of admixture, background, race, etc. Including white Mexicans, Native, mestizos, harnizos, zambos, afromestizos, east Asian, etc.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:49 AM   #33
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Weren't you just critisizing white celebrities for claiming NA?.....

double standard on this thread much?
And where did I say that, since you seem to know so much?

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Lmao No it doesn't make sense. Mexican is just a nationality and people can be Mexican regardless of admixture, background, race, etc. Including white Mexicans, Native, mestizos, harnizos, zambos, afromestizos, east Asian, etc.
Lol. Okay, so I wasn't going crazy reading that. It was just weird. She one dropped people but then turned around and said that Black and Asians can be mixed....huh? Mixed with what? Each other? It just doesn't make sense. So basically Blacks and Asians can only be half Black and half Asian? I'm confused.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:51 AM   #34
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And where did I say that, since you seem to know so much?
In the other thread...the one you just responded to, about white celebrities claiming native admix.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:52 AM   #35
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In the other thread...the one you just responded to, about white celebrities claiming native admix.
Post the quote, please.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:53 AM   #36
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Is it more acceptable for an Afram to acknowledge for example some Chinese ancestry than Irish (or any other form of Euro ancestry)?
From what I have personally seen it's easier for an Afram male than it is among Afram girls to openly acknowledge their mixed heritage.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:55 AM   #37
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Did you mean this comment?

I do find it funny that people who claim to be Cherokee and their family isn't even from the area that the Cherokee were in.... Where in that post did I mention race other than Cherokee? Nowhere? Okay, next!
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:57 AM   #38
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Post the quote, please.
Are you serious? Nevermind....
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:57 AM   #39
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I wonder how non-afram parents feel when their half-afram children aren't allowed or don't want to acknowledge their other ancestry.
I wouldn't want to have a son or daughter that denied or ignored me
It depends, from what I have observed the non afram parent isn't ignored or not acknowledge. I know two Afram/mexican brothers who identify as Black, but if you asked them are you mixed, or what are you mixed with they will say "Yes, my dad is Black and my mom is Mexican". I know several Afram/white individuals who identify the same way, as Black but when asked specifically they say "yea my mom is white". In one particular case with a girl I know, it is her white mother that considers her daughter to be "Black".
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:58 AM   #40
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Are you serious? Nevermind....
Because you can't come up with anything. Goodbye. Stop trying to start stuff with me.

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It depends, from what I have observed the non afram parent isn't ignored or not acknowledge. I know two Afram/mexican brothers who identify as Black, but if you asked them are you mixed, or what are you mixed with they will say "Yes, my dad is Black and my mom is Mexican". I know several Afram/white individuals who identify the same way, as Black but when asked specifically they say "yea my mom is white". In one particular case with a girl I know, it is her white mother that considers her daughter to be "Black".
I've heard of that one too. But most people only ask that if you "look" obviously mixed, or if you're light skinned, or if you have "good" hair.
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