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Old 02-01-2012, 08:33 AM   #1
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Is the blood stronger than culture.
If a person was raised and lives under a different culture among people of different ethnicity, no contact with his culture or people, how would he react when he see his people for the first time? Will he feel identified or no?
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:45 AM   #2
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Yes, he will be identified, I feel identified with Yoruba despite they aren't my ethnicity, also with Canarians and Spaniards.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:52 AM   #3
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Culture would be stronger to me. I wouldn't identify with people I have nothing in common with except blood. I would identify a lot more with somebody of different blood in my own culture.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #4
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there is always a blood connection to your ethnicities, but as an american, even though i have pride in my european roots, if any of those countries ever decided to act an ass like they did in WW2 i wouldn't hesitate to stick my foot up the ass of my supposed "people".

anyone who would put more pride in their ethnicity, especially when it is so far removed as in most new worlders case, over their home country. then those people have a fucked up sense of priorities and no loyalty imo.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:08 AM   #5
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Uhm...I'm going to have to say culture. I identify more with Aframs then any other Black diaspora.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:09 AM   #6
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In my opinion culture is stronger, provided one is assimilated (as you say, born and raised in different culture and considering it 'own'). There may be some sentiment, but thats it. I think only rare cases would be opposite.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:16 AM   #7
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it depends on many things such as

-extent of the phenotype difference
-the way the host culture percieves phenotypes
-individuals self-perception + character and values

i would say that in countries that the identity is primary cultural, people do not really care about the appearence as long as it not really different or doesn't connect the person with an ethnic group for which they have negative connocations.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:17 AM   #8
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I think it's blood, because I am assimilated, but I still feel like an outsider at many times
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:27 AM   #9
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I'd say culture for me, but there is some value in blood, we are all related (blood and culture), and I'm pretty open to embracing someone who shares heritage, but culture is more substantial to me, because it has to do with everyday experiences which bind people together. I also identify strongly with similar cultures

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as for others, I'd say it depends on the society they belong to, and how they perceive their phenotype, but their are always individuals amongst the masses
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:30 AM   #10
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I'd say it depends on the society you are raised in. Some societies place more emphasis on ancestry than others. The Anglosphere, f.e, when compared to the Islamic world.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:34 AM   #11
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Culture is stronger than blood in my opinion.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:36 AM   #12
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^ I also think culture is far more important than ancestry. But there are societies in which ancestry is considered as more important than in others, this is a cultural trait anyway.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:36 AM   #13
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I woudln't claim a culture I am not descendant of.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:37 AM   #14
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I have read about Russians born and raised in the USA that some day they chose to serve to their ancestral country and work spy the US for them.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:45 AM   #15
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It was quite common that German Americans fought against Nazi I believe so. I know some Polish generals of German ancestry fighting against Germans.
It obviously depends not only how the person is assimilated but how the society 'assimilates' that person.

I wonder how was it during Korean or Vietnam war- were there many east Asian Americans fighting? It is more intriguing option, cause of the difference in appearances.

However, when you think of Civil wars, you may change your perception.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:51 AM   #16
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I have read about Russians born and raised in the USA that some day they chose to serve to their ancestral country and work spy the US for them.
but also, many Russians love America and want to stay
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:53 AM   #17
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I wonder how was it during Korean or Vietnam war- were there many east Asian Americans fighting? It is more intriguing option, cause of the difference in appearances.
I dont know about Vietnam war but during the WWII some America-Japanese women used their work in a Radio station to spread Japanese propaganda:
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:05 AM   #18
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I woudln't claim a culture I am not descendant of.
Nobody is talking about claiming anything....they are talking about identification with a culture or ethnicity.
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:14 AM   #19
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Is the blood stronger than culture.
If a person was raised and lives under a different culture among people of different ethnicity, no contact with his culture or people, how would he react when he see his people for the first time? Will he feel identified or no?
No it's not. And it's silly to think that somehow a few genes play such a big role in our identification. It's all an illusion that comes from the flaws of society. What really counts is your culture, values, and mindset with which you grow up. A person can be by blood 100% French, but if he never grows up as a French in a French household, French society and people will be as foreign to him as any other people, and any connection he feels will be an illusion of "blood connection". A laughable term.
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:19 AM   #20
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Culture will eventually assimilate most anyone. Even second generation youth of European background are pretty much completely Canadian in their own perspective.They may show ethnic pride but always considered themselves Canadian first.
To me blood is all that really matters, I show allegiance to Canada but not pride or love.
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