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Old 12-27-2011, 04:57 AM   #1
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Default What is considered Black in the US
In general. To look "Black" in the US is to bascially look African American, which has a wide range of phenotypes from Pure SSA looking to almost White.

Here's the African American range. Most Aframs are in the Brown skinned column, while the other two are not rare but less common.

From Magneto's post.

Dark skinned





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Redbones to Light skinned



-->girl in the middle







^^His parents below: father is a "medium" type and his mother is a "light skinned" type. He came out in the "redbone" range


























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-->guy on the left is like a "medium redbone" type Afram and the other 2 are more "light skinned" or mixed







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after them it's people past true mulatto looking and heading into the quad-> white looking









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Old 12-27-2011, 05:00 AM   #2
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Didn't you do this thread a little bit ago?
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:01 AM   #3
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Didn't you do this thread a little bit ago?
Yeah. But with all these "Who is Black" threads started up on the forum. I'm giving a general overview of what is "Black" in the US.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:02 AM   #4
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About 98% of the people you posted
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:03 AM   #5
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Yeah. But with all these "Who is Black" threads started up on the forum. I'm giving a general overview of what is "Black" in the US.
What do you think of how people self-identify in this AfroColombian census video?
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:07 AM   #6
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What do you think of how people self-identify in this AfroColombian census video?
What do you mean?
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:09 AM   #7
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What do you mean?
You see how dark some people are in the video and they call themselves 'mulato'. Did you see it?
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:11 AM   #8
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African-American to me is more of an ethnicity, similarly to how I view Hispanics and Latinos.
Interesting to see from your photos that Blacks in the US are rather heterogeneous in phenotype.
What is a standard Afram? I'm not so sure. The looks vary considerably.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:12 AM   #9
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You see how dark some people are in the video and they call themselves 'mulato'. Did you see it?
Yeah, the women who said she was "Mullato" would be considered Black even in countries where a mixed category is recognized.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:13 AM   #10
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@Maroon King

Are those terms considered offensive by some?
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:15 AM   #11
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African-American to me is more of an ethnicity, similarly to how I view Hispanics and Latinos.
Interesting to see from your photos that Blacks in the US are rather heterogeneous in phenotype.
What is a standard Afram? I'm not so sure. The looks vary considerably.
I'd say these two. Two brown skinned Aframs who have light skinned children like this are not uncommon.


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Old 12-27-2011, 05:19 AM   #12
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Yeah, the women who said she was "Mullato" would be considered Black even in countries where a mixed category is recognized.
Mulato doesn't just mean 50/50 you can be 75/25 and if you recognize your Euro ancestry along with the Afro, you would say you're a "mulato".
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:20 AM   #13
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Yeah in the US there's only either black or white .
In the South Africa or old years a lot of people would register in the "colored" category while the rest in the "black " . In the French Carib they would be called "metisse" I think as opposed to "black". It is really weird how the US , the first white majority country with a {current} non white president was so rejectionist about their own bi -racial progeniture.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:20 AM   #14
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@Maroon King

Are those terms considered offensive by some?
What, mulato? Yes by those who believe the etymological root is mule.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:27 AM   #15
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Latin American concepts of race go back to the "racial hierarchy" or old Latin America, which had people of mixed ancestry getting a mixed ancestry getting more rights than "pure blooded" non-Europeans, modern "racial systems" in the Americas reflect old "classest" models. In the US, they for the most part considered any people with known African decent to be legally "black", though i'm not sure about free people of African decent prior to the end of slavery. In highschool I remember reading something about illegitimate "mulattoo" children. It said the son of a "white" slave owner was usually not claimed by the father, and therefore left with the slaves, but if the mother gave birth to an partially African child, the kid may be raised by the "white" family if they choose. I'm not sure if that was referring to the US or a Latin American country.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:32 AM   #16
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I'd say these two. Two brown skinned Aframs who have light skinned children like this are not uncommon.


Do the mother have Asian ancestry? Her eyes looks a bit chinky IMO.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:34 AM   #17
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Probably another thread that will turn out to be 47 pages or more, where you on most of the pages can see Game Theory engaging in the discussions.

Do the mother have Asian ancestry? Her eyes looks a bit chinky IMO.
If I have understood it correctly, epicanthus isn't so uncommon within some SSA groups.
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:09 AM   #18
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Wouldn't Aframs who look overwhelmingly European be seen as mixed by the general population, rather than fully Afram? As I would assume that recently mixed Americans with their phenotype are more numerous.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:44 AM   #19
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Wouldn't Aframs who look overwhelmingly European be seen as mixed by the general population, rather than fully Afram? As I would assume that recently mixed Americans with their phenotype are more numerous.
Depends on which Afram community. In areas where heavily mixed looking Aframs are uncommon, they would be seen as "Mixed", but in areas where heavily mixed Aframs are more common, they would be just be seen as a "Light Skinned" Afram, or "Creole".

Where I live. Half Afram biracials just blend into the general Afram population. They don't really stick out from the mainstream over here. But in somewhere like the Northeast, pred Euro biracials would be seen as "Dominican", "Puerto Rican", or "Biracial" rather than Afram.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:48 AM   #20
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Very good post and it is representative of Afram phenos
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