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Old 03-09-2011, 05:31 AM   #1
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Default Why are they considered white in America?
I'd like to know it because I always thought that Americans follow the one drop rule and this people look obviously mixed white/amerindian
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:35 AM   #2
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The more stereotypical "middle eastern" looking ones wouldn't be seen as white, but a large chunk of the turkish students posted in another thread would be seen as White, at least in NYc
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=14638
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:37 AM   #3
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Because Americans don't follow the one drop rule?

Kim Kardash is 100% white.

I don't know if Miley Cyrus has Amerind heritage. Lovato and Gomez are castizo Hispanics who are treated no different from other mixed Latinos with a white parent.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:38 AM   #4
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I'd say most Americans aren't quite aware of Turks, Armenians and the like. I did not know Kim was considered "white" most of the whites in my area think's she is Hispanic.
Generally if someone has the "capacity" to be considered white it is more likely to be happen after becoming a celebrity. So that is my current conclusion, fame and celebrityness.

The only ones who would be considered white in the area I live are

Miley Cyrus
The Jonas Bros
Meagan Fox
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:39 AM   #5
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Only folks really seen as 'white' in those pics are the Jonas Hoes (lol), Miley Cirus (mainly cuz she's country & only 'white people' listen/sing country, lol) and Megan Fox. The rest of em aren't.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:39 AM   #6
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White mixed with asian/native can be accepted as white, given their phenotype doesn't favor the non-white portion too much. Only typically black admixed individuals get scrutinized.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:40 AM   #7
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The Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, and Megan Fox are considered white where I live. The others are not, maybe the Kardashians to some. The Jonas Bros. look Euro enough, while Cyrus and Fox have light eyes and predominate Euro features.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:41 AM   #8
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White mixed with asian/native can be accepted as white, given their phenotype doesn't favor the non-white portion too much. Only typically black admixed individuals get scrutinized.
I know a first-gen "mulatto" kid who's seen as white by most people, and if I put him up for a classification, you would guess 65% euro and 35% african. People just assume he's some "french" or "italian" guy with the curly hair and what not, the fact that he "acts" white has alot to do with it I guess
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:46 AM   #9
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I never understood why the Jonas Brothers are considered white
they got a mix of white and mongoloid features their eyes are like a composition of white and asian genes
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:49 AM   #10
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the only ones that are considered white are miley cyrus, megan fox, and the jonas brothers. i think the others might be accepted as white because they are very americanized and do not have anything foreign about them and they follow the stereotypical american culture which is how alot of people consider them to be white... alot of people when i was younger would call me white boy even though im half pr because i didnt really act all ghetto and i spoke english with a normal american accent
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:50 AM   #11
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I never understood why the Jonas Brothers are considered white
they got a mix of white and mongoloid features their eyes are like a composition of white and asian genes
Most people from my experience don't really assume people to be mixed, everyone in their eyes fits into the White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, Indian, Middle Eastern etc. labels
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:52 AM   #12
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I know a first-gen "mulatto" kid who's seen as white by most people, and if I put him up for a classification, you would guess 65% euro and 35% african. People just assume he's some "french" or "italian" guy with the curly hair and what not, the fact that he "acts" white has alot to do with it I guess
Agreed, I guess it isn't as clear cut as I made it seem. I'm close to what the mulatto kid "looks" like percentage wise and because of my mannerisms (and especially non-Hispanic last name) co-workers have assumed I'm some type of tanned white person (I in no way look Europid though, IMO).

I still think most of the people posted (even post-surgery Kim Kardashian) pass in modern America.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:52 AM   #13
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I forgot to mention that Miley Cyrus isn't even caucasoid she's mongoloid
I know she's genetically more caucasoid but her phenotype,facial structure and craneo
are mongoloid/amerindian(yes she has blue eyes and redish-brown.hair)
Carleton S. Coon would classify her as mongoloid
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:53 AM   #14
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I never understood why the Jonas Brothers are considered white
they got a mix of white and mongoloid features their eyes are like a composition of white and asian genes
This is the first time I have really looked at all three of them and just not the one who is always the recipient of some other female disney chicks naked pics. Before I had just vaguely viewed them and saw that they played "white boi pop music" and assumed they were white. Upon closer inspection they do have some off white traits, but not enough to push them out of the "white" category.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:53 AM   #15
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I never understood why the Jonas Brothers are considered white
they got a mix of white and mongoloid features their eyes are like a composition of white and asian genes
They barely make it. I'd say that the younger two look the most 'white'. The oldest one doesn't; but since they're bros, they all get the go. I personally still say they look Jewish, but thanks to Hollywood/media... jews are seen more as 'white' these days.

Also, whites can have squinty eyes... it only becomes 'non-white' if they have the epicanthal fold.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:58 AM   #16
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I never understood why the Jonas Brothers are considered white
they got a mix of white and mongoloid features their eyes are like a composition of white and asian genes
I can see it, but its not too obvious in two of them, though you can definitely see it. The one on the right looks pretty white and wil be accepted as one, but still I can see some Amerind influence in all of them, though. The one on the left is really obvious.

I am also a little suspect of Zac Efron on the right here pictured with the Jonas brothers. I always thought he looked a little Native influenced.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:59 AM   #17
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Because Americans don't follow the one drop rule?

Kim Kardash is 100% white.
Really??
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:01 AM   #18
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I'd like to know it because I always thought that Americans follow the one drop rule and this people look obviously mixed white/amerindian
The only people that you posted considered 'white' here are miley cyrus and megan fox.. the rest are considered 'spanish'
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:03 AM   #19
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The only people that you posted considered 'white' here are miley cyrus and megan fox.. the rest are considered 'spanish'
How about The Jonas Brothers? They don't even look like latin americans at all, even if they supposedly look amerindian mixed
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:04 AM   #20
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Kim Kardashian does not look 100% Euroepan. I know on Lopez they shaid she was 100% Euroepan, but she doesn't look it. She looks slightly Eurasian.
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