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Old 06-02-2011, 02:01 AM   #21
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You can't deny the many many AAs who are 30-50% European though, you actually Believe Vanessa Williams is over 70% African ?
I'm not doubting highly Euro admixed Aframs. Shoot, I live in on the West Coast where Aframs less than 75% African are the majority.

I'm just saying about the average Afram being around 15-20% Euro, and the majority of African Americans live in the South where the there is less admixed Aframs than on the West Coast, or Midwestern parts of the country .

But one study on AA's with higher than 40% Euro admixture says this.

Only 5 percent of self-reported African Americans had more than 95 percent West African ancestry, with 27 percent having less than 60 percent West African ancestry
So it's a probability that around 27% of Aframs are 40% or more European.
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Old 06-02-2011, 02:06 AM   #22
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I'm not doubting highly Euro admixed Aframs. Shoot, I live in on the West Coast where Aframs less than 75% African are the majority.

I'm just saying about the average Afram being around 15-20% Euro, and the majority of African Americans live in the South where the there is less admixed Aframs than on the West Coast, or Midwestern parts of the country .

But one study on AA's with higher than 40% Euro admixture says this.



So it's a probability that around 27% of Aframs are 40% or more European.
Cool, yeah it's a big chunk. I'm from Miami and most AAs here are dark because they have heritage from Georgia and the Carolinas and many have mixture with the Bahamian migrants. When I went to the northeast I saw many AAs that looked highly European mixed, with light eyes and everything.
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Old 06-02-2011, 03:10 AM   #23
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I honestly haven't met that many (27%) Aframs who looked 40%+ european
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Old 06-02-2011, 03:20 AM   #24
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I honestly haven't met that many (27%) Aframs who looked 40%+ european
But there's plenty of them on TV!!!
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Old 06-02-2011, 03:31 AM   #25
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I'm not doubting highly Euro admixed Aframs. Shoot, I live in on the West Coast where Aframs less than 75% African are the majority.

I'm just saying about the average Afram being around 15-20% Euro, and the majority of African Americans live in the South where the there is less admixed Aframs than on the West Coast, or Midwestern parts of the country .

But one study on AA's with higher than 40% Euro admixture says this.



So it's a probability that around 27% of Aframs are 40% or more European.
I've only been to the West Coast once in my life, but I would have to agree with you that the African-Americans there definitely appear to have a lot more European admixture on average than the ones I see in the Northeast.
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Old 06-02-2011, 06:20 AM   #26
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I honestly haven't met that many (27%) Aframs who looked 40%+ european
They are more common in the West Coast, Midwest, and parts of the upper South(Tennesee, Virginia, and North Carolina).

Where I live, seeing light skinned Aframs with light eyes and curly/looser hair is nothing out of the ordinary.
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Old 06-02-2011, 06:36 AM   #27
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I personaly couldn't even tell that Jessica Beil had native ancestry. I kinda suspected it with Megan Fox though. Although admitedly when i first saw Megan before i knew her race i thought she was some sort of Med/Anglo mix.
When I first saw Megan Fox I judged her to be a Fatface/anorexid mix.
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Old 06-02-2011, 06:39 AM   #28
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They are more common in the West Coast, Midwest, and parts of the upper South(Tennesee, Virginia, and North Carolina).

Where I live, seeing light skinned Aframs with light eyes and curly/looser hair is nothing out of the ordinary.
Having red hair and freckles also seems common amongst AAs as well
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Old 06-02-2011, 07:49 AM   #29
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Having red hair and freckles also seems common amongst AAs as well
Bruenn admixture
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Old 06-02-2011, 07:56 AM   #30
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Bruenn admixture
There's plenty of Aframs with Brunn admixture, just look at the broad jaws. I'm one of them
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:00 AM   #31
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There's plenty of Aframs with Brunn admixture, just look at the broad jaws. I'm one of them
I think of you as an Alpine admixed.
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Old 06-07-2011, 06:19 AM   #32
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They are more common in the West Coast, Midwest, and parts of the upper South(Tennesee, Virginia, and North Carolina).

Where I live, seeing light skinned Aframs with light eyes and curly/looser hair is nothing out of the ordinary.
Bump. Here's what I mean. A few have around the same admixture range as your average Dominican or Cape Verdian. Just with Anglo or French DNA instead of Iberian.

Aframs phenotypes from the West Coast









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Old 06-08-2011, 01:28 AM   #33
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Of couse we are more admixed than White Americans. You could see a clear distinction between a group of Aframs and the West Africans we descend from. It's alot harder to tell the difference between a group of White Americans and Northern European people.
I have to disagree The difference between African Americans and Most West Africans isnt as Obvious as it is being played out to be, frankly because the majority of phenotypes from slim to broad light to dark, is shared in high enough frequency in both groups and both groups are majority descendant of similar people. The Average West African from Nigeria, Like igbo, Hausa, or ypruba, Or Mauritania, or Liberia, of Mali, or Burkina faso, or Cape verde, Ghana, would not stick out very much among African Americans.

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The difference between A typical good looking West African and an A good looking African American is closer to the difference between Idris Elba and Will smith, & I've lived in both parts of the world the average African American by phenotype alone is on average indistinguishable from majority west africans.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:25 AM   #34
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I have to disagree The difference between African Americans and Most West Africans isnt as Obvious as it is being played out to be, frankly because the majority of phenotypes from slim to broad light to dark, is shared in high enough frequency in both groups and both groups are majority descendant of similar people. The Average West African from Nigeria, Like igbo, Hausa, or ypruba, Or Mauritania, or Liberia, of Mali, or Burkina faso, or Cape verde, Ghana, would not stick out very much among African Americans.

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The difference between A typical good looking West African and an A good looking African American is closer to the difference between Idris Elba and Will smith, & I've lived in both parts of the world the average African American by phenotype alone is on average indistinguishable from majority west africans.
I agree with the overlap between us and West Africans, as the majority of Aframs could pass somewhere in West Africa. But as a whole, theres more of an obvious difference between us and West Africans when you add these people to the mix.














Add that to the fact that two dark skinned relatively unmixed looking Aframs could have children that look like this.





That's what makes the difference between us and our West African ancestors more obvious than with White Americans and Europeans.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:54 AM   #35
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I agree with the overlap between us and West Africans, as the majority of Aframs could pass somewhere in West Africa. But as a whole, theres more of an obvious difference between us and West Africans when you add these people to the mix.














Add that to the fact that two dark skinned relatively unmixed looking Aframs could have children that look like this.





That's what makes the difference between us and our West African ancestors more obvious than with White Americans and Europeans.
Two Dark skinned West Africans have Light skinned children all the time... It Happens lighter skin color is not a trait only possible through european blood. one word..igbo and thats not the only tribe hausa fulani, enuwani, etc.I get what you are saying, but it is more gray and fluid than concrete when comparing the two groups.
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:43 AM   #36
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I agree with the overlap between us and West Africans, as the majority of Aframs could pass somewhere in West Africa. But as a whole, theres more of an obvious difference between us and West Africans when you add these people to the mix.














Add that to the fact that two dark skinned relatively unmixed looking Aframs could have children that look like this.





That's what makes the difference between us and our West African ancestors more obvious than with White Americans and Europeans.
I will say that since Afro americans tend to have admixture from europeans more so than west africans so their phenotype/genotype isn't nearly as affected by Western europeans, Rather each other and north africans, and a small percentage of Western europeans/

When scrutinized there is a distinction. Ethnicity by ethnicity African Americans Do tend to to look distinguishably different. But even then there are at least a few a West African ethnicities that I think the Vast Majority of AA would be 95% indistinguishable from... the igbos are one of them

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Old 06-09-2011, 12:11 PM   #37
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I have to disagree The difference between African Americans and Most West Africans isnt as Obvious as it is being played out to be, frankly because the majority of phenotypes from slim to broad light to dark, is shared in high enough frequency in both groups and both groups are majority descendant of similar people. The Average West African from Nigeria, Like igbo, Hausa, or ypruba, Or Mauritania, or Liberia, of Mali, or Burkina faso, or Cape verde, Ghana, would not stick out very much among African Americans.

main1.jpg

20081203_ghanafruit_w.jpg

sah_p_131_01_l.jpg

ENLARGE_01MalianWomen.jpg

tumblr_lk8dj89Xx21qeb9aeo1_500.jpg

work-volunteer-ghana.jpg

Idris-Elba.jpg

nnamdi-asomugha-GQ.jpg

verdier.jpg

chiwetel-ejiofor.jpg

Northern-Burkina-Faso-Fulani-African-People-Griot-Griots-Storytellers-2010-12943-ireneabdouphoto.jpg

mneno_babalwa_large.jpg

Bernice angoh2.jpg

The difference between A typical good looking West African and an A good looking African American is closer to the difference between Idris Elba and Will smith, & I've lived in both parts of the world the average African American by phenotype alone is on average indistinguishable from majority west africans.
They do actually
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:48 AM   #38
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I will say that since Afro americans tend to have admixture from europeans more so than west africans so their phenotype/genotype isn't nearly as affected by Western europeans, Rather each other and north africans, and a small percentage of Western europeans/

When scrutinized there is a distinction. Ethnicity by ethnicity African Americans Do tend to to look distinguishably different. But even then there are at least a few a West African ethnicities that I think the Vast Majority of AA would be 95% indistinguishable from... the igbos are one of them

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Complexion wise the majority of A-A's are similar to Igbos. But when you look at other things such as bone structure and body builds, there's a distinct difference as the majority of Igbo's don't show a visible Euro influence in bone structure like a huge percentage of A-A's do.

Like in this video of Maino and his friends visiting Nigeria. There's a clear difference in bone structure and body builds between the local Nigerians(most likely Yoruba) and the visiting Aframs from New York.
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Old 06-10-2011, 10:40 AM   #39
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An Afram is on average 15-20%European, while the White Americans with non-white ancestry have less than 5% in most cases.
I think to the naked eye, Aframs have on average 20%European/west asian ancestry(which i think is quite close to accurate), though there is also regional difference ofcourse. but does anyone know how much amerindian admixture or even asian admixture if there is any at all for black americans ? maybe its 1 to 2% average of native american admixture for blacks.
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Old 06-10-2011, 10:46 AM   #40
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I think to the naked eye, Aframs have on average 20%European/west asian ancestry(which i think is quite close to accurate), though there is also regional difference ofcourse. but does anyone know how much amerindian admixture or even asian admixture if there is any at all for black americans ? maybe its 1 to 2% average of native american admixture for blacks.
It's very small, most studies show null contribution of native american admixture in the majority of A-A's.
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