[MortgFinsJohnQ]

This is so hilarious! According to our beloved government, it has the right to define what mass immigration really is, tell us that the Jews do not control media and that our Somali and Iraqi immigrants actually contribute more than they cost for us Swedes. Just ridiculous!

http://www.regeringen.se/sb/d/2279/a/181576

[NanoKakadze]

See you silly swede, now you know the truth.

[nvmrfgopyy]

See you silly swede, now you know the truth.

Yeah, I'm glad that my government can enlighten me on these topics. Thank you Fredrik Reinfeldt and Erik Ullenhag!

[BariGrootrego]

if the government did release this material is why the emperor is naked..



Myt 6: Judarna kontrollerar medier och politik i Sverige, USA och flera andra länder.

Påståenden om judiska konspirationer har cirkulerat i Sverige och i Europa i århundraden och bygger på synen av judarna som ett kollektiv. I Sverige, USA och många andra länder ägs radio- och tevekanaler av en rad olika företag. Denna spridning garanterar att varken någon grupp eller särintresse kan kontrollera debatten.

[exettybele]

That's just sad. I think mythbusting would require some figures and numbers. That's just propaganda.

[BinasiDombrs]

Governments lie a lot about the cost of immigration. In a spaniard forum we calculate the actual cost, by subtracting the tax contributions of immigrants to the sum total of what they spend (cost of prisoners, education, health, integration campaigns, subsidies ...), and the overall result was that they cost 15.000 milion euros per year, ie 2'5 times more than it contributes.

[adultcomicssitedessaa]

Governments lie a lot about the cost of immigration. In a spaniard forum we calculate the actual cost, by subtracting the tax contributions of immigrants to the sum total of what they spend (cost of prisoners, education, health, integration campaigns, subsidies ...), and the overall result was that they cost 15.000 milion euros per year, ie 2'5 times more than it contributes.

how is the immigration problems in Spain heading? You got a new government recently, right?

How is that government's stance? Is it better?

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if the government did release this material is why the emperor is naked..



Myt 6: Judarna kontrollerar medier och politik i Sverige, USA och flera andra länder.

Påståenden om judiska konspirationer har cirkulerat i Sverige och i Europa i århundraden och bygger på synen av judarna som ett kollektiv. I Sverige, USA och många andra länder ägs radio- och tevekanaler av en rad olika företag. Denna spridning garanterar att varken någon grupp eller särintresse kan kontrollera debatten.

Haha, Jews don't own all media. Or does they? I really wonder what scg2009 has to say about it.

[VEGLAS - SPB]

how is the immigration problems in Spain heading? You got a new government recently, right?

How is that government's stance? Is it better?

Especially the capital, east and south received a brutal amount of immigrants in the last decade, this has brought the typical problems (increased crime, mafias, Latino gangs, ethnic conflicts between nationalities, job insecurity, hight economic cost...).


The new government in immigration issues is the same than previous government.

[dgdhgjjgj]

Is there any party against mass immigration in the Spanish parliament?

I'm curious to find out, because most Euro countries have it, except Germany and Britain I know.

[Forexampleee]

No, the only anti-immigration party (PxC) with potential access to parliament he hadn't enough votes in past elections, but only exists in Catalonia.

Maybe in the next elections when this party exists in all Spain as they leaders want may have a presence in parliament.

[Pyuvjzwf]

It's indeed quite bizarre that our government has now started with blatant state propaganda. Their take on "myth" #1 is rather remarkable.

Myth: There is currently a massimmigration to Sweden which will result in Swedes becoming a minority in their own country.
Answer: This myth builds upon the misconception that immigrants don't become Swedes.
Uum, I doubt those people "perpetrating the myth" are referring to the amount of people holding a piece of paper that says "Swedish citizen". Is this really the highest level of reasoning they can come up with in support of their policies? And these people are running our country

[deermealec]

I have nothing against immigration per se being it rational and smart..

clarification; immigrant doctors or engineers are usually dutch, germans, persians and poles, any sane person except the government's website wouldn't put them in the same level of bottom rockets groups like albanians and somalis. which are not immigrants, but pseudo refugees wanting to live here without to work.

[KukkoDrukko]

It's indeed quite bizarre that our government has now started with blatant state propaganda. Their take on "myth" #1 is rather remarkable.

Myth: There is currently a massimmigration to Sweden which will result in Swedes becoming a minority in their own country.
Answer: This myth builds upon the misconception that immigrants don't become Swedes.
Uum, I doubt those people "perpetrating the myth" are referring to the amount of people holding a piece of paper that says "Swedish citizen". Is this really the highest level of reasoning they can come up with in support of their policies? And these people are running our country

It's ironic that they have a hate speech law (Hets mot folkgrupp), said to protect everybody but Swedes, if the "ethnic" immigrants and their descendants with Swedish citizenships are so Swedish.

"Hate crime against Samis increases"
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/hat...mot-samer-okar
http://translate.google.se/translate...r-okar&act=url

How can you commit "hate crime" against the Samis? Shouldn't they have lived here long enough to be Swedes?

[soineeLom]

Myth: There is currently a massimmigration to Sweden which will result in Swedes becoming a minority in their own country.
Answer: This myth builds upon the misconception that immigrants don't become Swedes.

The Swedish government is trying to brainwash Swedes into believing Africans, Turks, Iraqis e.t.c. are turning Swedish. Sure, if immigrants outbreed natives they will become "rightful" occupants of the land in the future.
Do you want a Sweden where Mohammed and Fatima are among the most common names? I didn't think so. Act now, by voting against these maniacs.

[JessiPollo]

you are all a bunch of bitches.

How would this affect the popularity of my party (SD)?

Do you think they will decrease? Absolutley not.

The Breivik incident did not make them decrease either.

[avaiftBoara]

The Swedish government is trying to brainwash Swedes into believing Africans, Turks, Iraqis e.t.c. are turning Swedish. Sure, if immigrants outbreed natives they will become "rightful" occupants of the land in the future.
Do you want a Sweden where Mohammed and Fatima are among the most common names? I didn't think so. Act now, by voting against these maniacs.

if these maniacs created this list of amazing myths is because their little kingdom is under threat in sweden..

[VZF74G0M]

Seems to me that politicians usually get promoted to their level of incompetence

[ssiikmuz]

Like I said to Gungbir, in the Canadian thread:

In Sweden there was a huge media-campaign against the SD party (a new party opponents to multikulture and who wants very strict immigration) before the election last year. Politicians were shitscared seeing they would make it to the parliament (4 % of votes is needed) so they started a real campaign agaisnt it a couple of years before the election in september 2010. You were basically labelled as a devil or a sicko if you supported them. They were ridicouled in TV. On the day of the election, our biggest newspaper had a frontpage showing a ballotpaper for SD lying in a puddle. Newspaper should not have that kind of bias but they had. Headline was: Today we are voting for Sweden - against xenophobia.

And what happened? SD scored way over the treashold for entering the parliament and even got more votes than most polls had predicted.

Media and most etablished politicians still was in a shock. Big fail!

Fact 1# We have free speach in Sweden, and we have different parties in parliament with different views

Fact 2# Swedes are the last people you can "brainwash". I mean, do you really think those 8.9 % of people who support SD party in latest poll will change their mind?

Brainwash, Motorhead, get real..

[Chubrehege]

The new government in immigration issues is the same than previous government.

not exactly, according to perroflauta and pro massive immigration pamphlet 'EL PAIS'.

El PP impedirá la regularización de inmigrantes por arraigo socialLos populares no legalizarán la situación de extranjeros que lleven tres años residiendo en España
http://politica.elpais.com/politica/...31_984714.html If an illegal immigrant can prove he is living in spain for at least 3 years he can ask for legalization... but not anymore according this.

let wait and see what happens.

[GaxyGroordrep]

So the new spanish government is worse?