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Old 12-12-2011, 05:17 AM   #21
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Probably Pacific Islanders or people from Papua New Guinea.
However to be perfectly honest, i think they are one of the most diverse areas in the world besides the African Continent and it is definitely shows, here is a few examples.

http://www.thecommonwealth.org/Share...eName=FileName

http://www.globalphotographic.net/sal1a.jpg

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4787/img2790.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_we9F28Vk4o...m+Duma,+MP.JPG

http://v4.lscache5.c.bigcache.google...l/47757867.jpg
http://www.zimbio.com/Prime+Minister...phy+simplicity

http://higherground.adventistconnect.../people_01.png
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:15 PM   #22
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Horners appear to have hunter-gatherer admixture, based on their uniparental markers and autosomal affinities. So they have at least two sources of archaic admixture, presumably. The archaic African hominins that mixed with African sapiens hunter-gatherers, as well as the Neanderthals that mixed with the first Eurasians.
so ironic, West Africans are the only pure automically modern humans... go figure. I probably have Neanderthal admixture due to my Berber ancestry though.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:19 PM   #23
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andaman islanders
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:31 PM   #24
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There aren't any "pure races". There aren't even any "races", and I will convey this by quoting a User from another forum.

"Purity" makes sense in metallurgy, but not from a genetic standpoint. When you're dealing with metals, you can analyze them and break down components into specific minerals. You can assay any metal and say it's 57% copper, 32% zinc, etc. because there is an unchanging scientific definition of what copper is, based on its atomic structure, properties, etc. Any two people who know what they are doing will be able to agree on the chemical composition within a very low range of tolerance.

Ethnic groups are not made up of minerals: they're made up of actual people, whose ancestors themselves belonged to various ethnic groups in varying proportions. You can never break down an ethnicity into scientifically agreed-on and stable components the way you can minerals.

Aftermarket projects may give you a "component" score. But these are not "components" in the sense that unalloyed minerals in an alloy are. There never was a single ethnic group that was, say, 100% "West European" by these analyses' definitions.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:42 PM   #25
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I believe a "pure" race refers to the:

1. distance to geographical location of the Source/Origin of a human group.
2. genetic isolation within the Source/Origin of a human group.


We would not call "white americans" Natives because we obviously have our ancestry deeply ingrained into the "European" geography & genetic pool.

We would not call "black americans" Natives because Aframs obviously have their ancestry deeply ingrained into the "Afrikan" geography & genetic pool.


The main point of Anthropology is to create esteemed, scientific hypotheses as to 3. where these "Sources/Origins" of human groups began, and 4. how genetic isolation was maintained between different human groups, including Ethnic and Racial differences.

People who deny difference between races are as oblivious to race as somebody who is Color blind, and cannot tell the difference between Red or Blue, Loud or Quiet, Bright or Dark.

And you usually can see these types of people by their insistence that "all is one" and "difference does not exist".

The philosophical term for this is a "Monist" (disbelieves in Difference, believes in Equality), opposed to a "Dualist" or "Pluralist" (believes in Difference, disbelieves in Equality).

It's pretty easy to spot who believes in what, and why.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:43 PM   #26
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The Inbredoids,
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:52 PM   #27
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Aboriginal Australians have Neanderthal and Denisovan admixture.
No wonder old-school anthropologists thought Aborigines had Homo Erectus admixture, long before the advent of genetic testing.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:51 PM   #28
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Figure from the study I mentioned earlier, showing the frequency of introgressive variants within three sequenced regions across SSA.
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:01 PM   #29
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i don't know if they are mixed but that seems unlikely since 95 to 100% of the papuan belong to only one Y-dna subclade ,the subclade C . (the australoid subcale par excellence )
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:23 PM   #30
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Shitty Mandenka! Well, I wish I have recent pygmy ancestry then...
You make get lucky and test mtdna L1c?
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:38 PM   #31
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i don't know if they are mixed but that seems unlikely since 95 to 100% of the papuan belong to only one Y-dna subclade ,the subclade C . (the australoid subcale par excellence )
I agree they maybe among the so called purest in the world. If such a thing exist, since we are all human.
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:05 PM   #32
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It's me! I am the purest.
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:12 PM   #33
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Andaman islanders are the purest. Not that much intermarriage there the last few years.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:51 PM   #34
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You should have defined "pure".
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:04 AM   #35
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Figure from the study I mentioned earlier, showing the frequency of introgressive variants within three sequenced regions across SSA.
Thanks but we have to remember that this study was based on a statistical model; the genetic factor of such a theory remains elusive. An alternative to the aforementioned results is that African hunter-gather communities simply possess portions of dna that are much more deep-rooted and divergent in comparison to their counterparts in the African continent and Eurasia/America's. Given the fact that the African hunter-gather-rest of humanity divergence is no less than 100-150,000 years old should be taken into consideration given the context of the conclusion. There are some loose ends with regard to this particular study, most important 1) the dating of the admixture event, and 2) the results of some of their samples... for example the Dogon and Shona.

In any case, given the results of the Dinka, I'm not so sure that Horners are that "Archaic" admixed.
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Old 12-13-2011, 01:09 AM   #36
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I agree they maybe among the so called purest in the world. If such a thing exist, since we are all human.
Pure, yes (if we could use the term), and with a somewhat wider range of looks than some may expect, when it comes to Papua New Guinea people.



























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Old 12-13-2011, 03:48 AM   #37
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In any case, given the results of the Dinka, I'm not so sure that Horners are that "Archaic" admixed.
That's what you would expect, but I'm not so sure. The Bulala (best proxy we have for South Sudanese Nilo-Saharans) actually lack the hunter-gatherer affinity that Horners have. We know that hunter-gatherers have lived close to the Horn in relatively recent times, so that could explain it.

Beyoku's Dinka sample should be helpful, hopefully.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:23 AM   #38
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Anadman Islanders are the purests, because they are the closes to (Ancestoral south indians) and they havent mixed with anyone in a long long time







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Old 12-13-2011, 09:27 AM   #39
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Groups like the Parsis or the Amish.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:49 AM   #40
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Groups like the Parsis or the Amish.
I have a little doubt about the Amish. Didn't they arise from East Coast Puritan colonizers of the New World? They may have some Amerindian blood, early on in their history. Other than that, yes, mostly Europid due to inbreeding.

It'd be interesting to see a genetic report on the Amish.
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