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Old 02-25-2011, 06:26 AM   #21
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Russian, really ?
That surprise me. I didn't know it's could be hype in USA, to be russian.



I saw in many countries, peoples like claim their german roots. It's not the same in France. Because in french mentalities, germans are seen like nazi :S (dumb mentality)
Yep, it happens here quite a lot, but it's only among my generation.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:29 AM   #22
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Yep, it happens here quite a lot, but it's only among my generation.
I suppose, it's because russian are cool, in modern american media ?
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:31 AM   #23
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As already said, the hype is to claim French, British or German ancestry. Also, people of Greek, Lebanese and Armenian origin are usually proud of it (proud meaning it's important for them and don't hide it - not proud as feeling better than others).
Oh, yeah ? I have French, German and British isles ancestry and you know what ? The British isles are Celtic, Germanic and French (Norman) so my mix cannot be described as anything that would not have occurred tradtionally in Great Britain i.e. British. This is not hype but a fact of reality. I'm not about "hype" at all but about the facts.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:40 AM   #24
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Oh, yeah ? I have French, German and British isles ancestry and you know what ? The British isles are Celtic, Germanic and French (Norman) so my mix cannot be described as anything that would not have occurred tradtionally in Great Britain i.e. British. This is not hype but a fact of reality. I'm not about "hype" at all but about the facts.
I think he is talking about the hype in Argentina.

I don't think Australia has reached the point where people would claim having aboriginal origins if they don't. There is still quite a lot of stigma.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:41 AM   #25
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This hype doesn´t exist in Spain imo. By two reasons, we´re in European geografical periphery (isolated of other ethnicities) and the multiethnic society is a very recent phenomenon here.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:50 AM   #26
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I think he is talking about the hype in Argentina.

I don't think Australia has reached the point where people would claim having aboriginal origins if they don't. There is still quite a lot of stigma.
I think you're right. I said that because , in my school they was an australian student who said he was part aboriginal. He looked very english, so i thinked , he just claimed, and it wasn't true.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:58 AM   #27
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Very common for people to claim to be part Cherokee without proof where I live.
Alot of African Americans like to claim they are part Native American too. I hear it all the time from my fams.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:07 AM   #28
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Alot of African Americans like to claim they are part Native American too. I hear it all the time from my fams.
Does marriage between Afram and cherokee was forbiden in the past ? I heard somewhere , it was forbiden
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:11 AM   #29
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Yep, it happens here quite a lot, but it's only among my generation.
By here you mean your city? State? Hood?
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:22 AM   #30
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Germans don't do that. It's positively regarded if someone's half French, Italian or Greek but no one cares about obscure admixtures of past times. We're just not that much of a mongrel nation like France or America.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:33 AM   #31
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And in France, we have the highest rate of interrational mariage Black/White in Europe.
I didn't know that about France. I know that historically France has been the most tolerant and welcoming place in Europe for blacks.

The british seem to have gone french in recent times: they too have a very high black/white marriage rate. Resulting in such prominent mixed race brits as Lewis Hamilton, Leona Lewis, Ashley Cole, Thandie Newton...
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:35 AM   #32
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Being one thing is seen as boring to some. Saying you're part something is like adding some exotic spice to your food.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:35 AM   #33
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I didn't know that about France. I know that historically France has been the most tolerant and welcoming place in Europe for blacks.
I certainly noticed that when I was there and I'm not one to watch out for such things.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:08 AM   #34
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Alot of African Americans like to claim they are part Native American too. I hear it all the time from my fams.
a lot of those New Orlean people like to claim French, Spanish, Native American Indian, African, Italian, Filipino, and several do actually have those admixtures or most of that, depending on who you ask.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:13 AM   #35
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On here there are many pinoys that claim they have hispanic blood.. most that do are the brown very malay looking ones who claim they are mestiso/mestisa because they got a spanish last name and get mad when i tell them they are not. Even my chinese friend says he is latino... i was like ppfffttt u aint son!!
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:24 AM   #36
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Where I'm from, Ethnic-European identities mean very little, and most people are not even aware of where their grandparents or European relatives originate. People really don't think about it (the past, or their ancestry). And it's irrelevant for the most part, in the US, compared to Race. And race is a much broader anthropological classification identity.

It's mostly important for Europeans to be "European", but in the US, it's about "white", "black", "brown", "yellow", "red" (even though Natives really are not outspoken or extroverted).

Different cultural mentalities…
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Old 02-25-2011, 12:29 PM   #37
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On here there are many pinoys that claim they have hispanic blood.. most that do are the brown very malay looking ones who claim they are mestiso/mestisa because they got a spanish last name and get mad when i tell them they are not. Even my chinese friend says he is latino... i was like ppfffttt u aint son!!
Filipino Chavacanos speak Spanish Creole and they claim themselve to be the Latinos of Asia.
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Old 02-25-2011, 12:38 PM   #38
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Russian, really ?
That surprise me. I didn't know it's could be hype in USA, to be russian.


I saw in many countries, peoples like claim their german roots. It's not the same in France. Because in french mentalities, germans are seen like nazi :S (dumb mentality)
No one in the US claims to be Russian unless its true.
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Old 02-25-2011, 12:46 PM   #39
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Where I'm from, Ethnic-European identities mean very little, and most people are not even aware of where their grandparents or European relatives originate. People really don't think about it (the past, or their ancestry). And it's irrelevant for the most part, in the US, compared to Race. And race is a much broader anthropological classification identity.

It's mostly important for Europeans to be "European", but in the US, it's about "white", "black", "brown", "yellow", "red" (even though Natives really are not outspoken or extroverted).

Different cultural mentalities…
Where you are, maybe.

When you're from NYC, ethnicity is everything.

I met a white Christian girl in an Armenian neighborhood and she told me she couldn't date me because I was Western. I dated a Ukrainian girl in Junior High and her family got pissed at me because I said a few words I'd picked up in Russian and they were offended. A lot of Jewish parents strongly frown on letting their daughters date non-Jews.

Sure, within my own community, dating blacks is basically asking to be disowned, but any non-Italian white group, especially a WASP-y group will upset your family.
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Old 02-25-2011, 02:16 PM   #40
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Where you are, maybe.

When you're from NYC, ethnicity is everything.

I met a white Christian girl in an Armenian neighborhood and she told me she couldn't date me because I was Western. I dated a Ukrainian girl in Junior High and her family got pissed at me because I said a few words I'd picked up in Russian and they were offended. A lot of Jewish parents strongly frown on letting their daughters date non-Jews.

Sure, within my own community, dating blacks is basically asking to be disowned, but any non-Italian white group, especially a WASP-y group will upset your family.
I was also raised in a small, rural town, not a metropolis…

I grew-up around Hispanics, Latinos, Natives, and redneck/cowboy WASPs.

Nobody really thought much about ethnicity, but, there actually was a LOT of diversity in my school. My best friend was a clear English type, another friend Scottish. In fact there was a wide range of ethnic diversity in my school, come to think of it. But people really were either "white" or "brown/Latino". Racism was not a big problem. We only had a couple of black kids and students and they didn't seem to suffer anymore or less racial discrimination than Latinos in the community. Natives were a small minority too.

New York seems like the extreme end of the spectrum as far as examples can go, pretty much the quintessential "ethnic" city in the world, correct?
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