[xkQCaS4w]

This is how all it started, it is a must see video.

[Dr. Shon Thomson]

Pfft, is this a revelation to you?

As far as the originators of slavery, everyone did it. Besides, African slavery was completely different from the Eurodemon-American chattel slavery. Slaves in Africa had rights, could own land, and most importantly, their kids would be free. In most W. African cultures, you weren't allowed to kill your slave. They were more like perpetual servants. Had Africans known the ramifications of selling to Euro's, I'm sure they would have reconsidered.

The Euro's were encouraging it and ramping it up. Who created ALL the demand for slaves? Africans really had no choice. If it's 1704 and I am from Group A and I have always hated Group B, and some pink man says he'll give me $1000 to sell the enemy I just battled, I'd probably do it. He'll give me $1000, which I'll use to buy guns an sell some more Group B's to him. The Pink man has tons of DEMAND for slaves, he doesn't care which tribe. So if I refuse, he'll give the guns to Group B and then my ass is enslaved. Damned if you do, and enslave if you don't.

Henry Louis Gates is a hater...tryna throw Africans under the bus. Gates is fully 50% white. Probably more, so he needs to stop pretending like he's the authority on all things black.

[cargo_brad]

early Europeans and Asians also had slaves during the same timeline and its very hard to find out which one made/created slavery

[AK47rulz]

Slavery has always been more a class issue than race issue. Money and power is to blame and all human groups are capable of beeing cruel.

[Annevecenqp]

Pfft, is this a revelation to you?

Nope, but I think not many members know about this.

[Dwencejed]

Slavery blame-game controversy
Henry Louis Gates wrote an editorial entitled "Ending the Slavery Blame-Game" in the New York Times on April 22, 2010, which analyzes and highlights the important role played by Africans in the slave trade.[16] As Gates points out,

"The historians John Thornton and Linda Heywood of Boston University estimate that 90 percent of those shipped to the New World were enslaved by Africans and then sold to European traders. The sad truth is that without complex business partnerships between African elites and European traders and commercial agents, the slave trade to the New World would have been impossible, at least on the scale it occurred."

Dr. Akurang-Parry criticized Gates for classifying Africans as a group:


The viewpoint that “Africans” enslaved “Africans” is obfuscating if not troubling. The deployment of “African” in African history tends to coalesce into obscurantist constructions of identities that allow scholars, for instance, to subtly call into question the humanity of “all” Africans. Whenever Asante rulers sold non-Asantes into slavery, they did not construct it in terms of Africans selling fellow Africans. They saw the victims for what they were, for instance, as Akuapems, without categorizing them as fellow Africans. Equally, when Christian Scandinavians and Russians sold war captives to the Islamic people of the Abbasid Empire, they didn’t think that they were placing fellow Europeans into slavery. This lazy categorizing homogenizes Africans and has become a part of the methodology of African history; not surprisingly, the Western media’s cottage industry on Africa has tapped into it to frame Africans in inchoate generalities allowing the media to describe [a] local crisis in one African state as [an] “African” problem.

– Dr. Akurang-Parry, Ending the Slavery Blame, Ghana Web[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_L...me_controversy

^
Although I found this on wiki (not always reliable), I do recall reading about this elsewhere. If anyone more familiar with this specific exchange (Gates & the critique he received), please feel free to expand or correct.

[Avoireeideree]

And this debunks the myth that whites were superior to blacks just because they could enslave them, but they forgot that they had to use those "weak" tribesmen to do the dirty work for them.

[fissasste]

And this debunks the myth that whites were superior to blacks just because they could enslave them, but they forgot that they had to use thos e"weak" tribesmen to do the dity work for them.

Well, there's alot more to the slave trade than skin color, nationality or ethnic background. Socioeconomic inequality, warmaking abilities, supply and demand, etc. are primary factors. Rich over poor, conqueror over conquered is the pattern seen all over the world.

[Sanremogirl]

Well, there's alot more to the slave trade than skin color, nationality or ethnic background. Socioeconomic inequality, warmaking abilities, supply and demand, etc. are primary factors. Rich over poor, conqueror over conquered is the pattern seen all over the world.

I know about it, I refer this to those who use it as an excuse for racial supremacy.

[Rndouglas]

Slavery has always been more a class issue than race issue. Money and power is to blame and all human groups are capable of beeing cruel.

I believe slavery has been about certain groups of people, (which can occur among different races or within a race), although racism has been a major part of it. Slaves do not have the same rights as a free person and they are viewed as property and not a living breathing human being.

But with racism, a dominant race would view another as not their equal, therefore giving them a reason to own the latter group.

[Sandvikla]

More:

[Forex Autopilot]

Maybe some of the African or Middle Eastern posters can answer this question:
Where and when was slavery finally abolished? From what I recall, it seems to be between Saudi Arabia, East Africa or Mauretania.

[vqIo7X2U]

Maybe some of the African or Middle Eastern posters can answer this question:
Where and when was slavery finally abolished? From what I recall, it seems to be between Saudi Arabia, East Africa or Mauretania.

Slavery still exists ....

[JetePlentuara]

Slavery still exists ....

Yes, it does.

Human trafficking is a form of slavery and many people, especially women and children are held against their will and forced into manual labor or for prostitution. This most probably isn't about race but economic in nature.

In the Philippines, thousands of Filipinas are lured into the false promise of a job in a foreign country, like Thailand, Malaysia or Indonesia. Once they arrive there, a lot of these young women are surprised that they end up working in a brothel or become a maid/ slave with no pay. Well...they do get paid but their "agency" gets the money to pay off their passports, transportation, lodging, etc.

[WeissVine]

Yes, it does.

Human trafficking is a form of slavery and many people, especially women and children are held against their will and forced into manual labor or for prostitution. This most probably isn't about race but economic in nature.

In the Philippines, thousands of Filipinas are lured into the false promise of a job in a foreign country, like Thailand, Malaysia or Indonesia. Once they arrive there, a lot of these young women are surprised that they end up working in a brothel or become a maid/ slave with no pay. Well...they do get paid but their "agency" gets the money to pay off their passports, transportation, lodging, etc.

I get the impression (and it may be exaggerated) that there are lots of Filipinas in the Middle Eastern countries working as household laborers.
I also get the impression that many of those countries have a different attitude towards there workers, I've seen some harsh videos.
, I'm not trying to make any generalizations based on a few videos, btw, but it would be interesting to hear from any posters familiar with that topic.

BTW, tons of Filipinas in the medical field here.

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Slavery still exists ....

Please expand, slavery in the historically traditional sense, or the much broader modern and liberal sense?

[Soresbox]

Slavery still exists ....

Yes it does. And a slave is now cheaper than one was back during the peak of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade because the world has a larger population.

The average slave costs $90 now. Back then, one would run you $10,000 (in today's value).

[space-on-s]

Yes it does. And a slave is now cheaper than one was back during the peak of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade because the world has a larger population.

The average slave costs $90 now. Back then, one would run you $10,000 (in today's value).

Off topic, quick question: Any connection between your ethnic group and the French descendants in Louisiana?

[Navzrrqt]

Off topic, quick question: Any connection between your ethnic group and the French descendants in Louisiana?

Yes. They are the descendants of Acadians who were expelled from Canada.

I found several relatives from there on Relative Finder.