[kertionderf]

Multiculturalism only works in USA and Brazil, Europe can't handle it, it's like asking them to make their identity go extinct.

People often says America is a multicultural country. I say no, they are not.
America may have many races (which are considered minorities) but at the end it is about the American culture.

How many languages are spoken in the USA? One, American English.


This is not a bash tread or an Anti American thread

[AlekseyZubkov]

People often says America is a multicultural country. I say no, they are not.
America may have many races (which are considered minorities) but at the end it is about the American culture.

How many languages are spoken in the USA? One, American English.


This is not a bash tread or an Anti American thread

It seems to me that the US soon will have two official languages. I believe Obama said in a speech that every Mexican immigrant should learn English, and every American should learn Spanish...

[DeilMikina]

USA it is a Multicultural (and Multiracial) country since it's beginning.

[GogaMegaPiska]

The USA is not multi-cultural in the sense that we bring immigrants from our former colonies and stash them in government funded ghettos outside of our cities, where they continue to speak their native language and follow their traditional lifestyles.

Even in the most Spanish influenced areas of the country, you will find that 2nd generation and later immigrants do speak English. It's the older parents and grandparents who don't learn English. This is true with Mexicans, just as it was true with Italians and others.

Other cultures are there to be appreciated in this country, as in their cuisine, their work ethic, or other cultural strengths (ex. East Asian penchant for organization and neatness) but not there to partition off society and promote hostilities between groups.

You ought to go to Texas, speed down the road, and then get pulled over by a local cop... a brown Mexican-American dude who could pass as local in Juarez but speaks perfect southwestern redneck English variant.

[funnyPasds]

USA it is a Multicultural (and Multiracial) country since it's beginning.

How many languages do people around you speak?
Is people around you getting ready for the Ramadam?
Do Sihk people wear Rumal in their heads in the USA?

How many people like this in the USA streets? (Attachement)


It is not an attack, actually Sihks are not present in many countries, my point is no country (America, Europe, Asia) is really multicultural as everybody like to claim.

[bQXHsKzS]

How many languages do people around you speak?

I hear mostly English, and maybe a little Hindi or Urdu from time to time. I can go find Spanish being spoken without much problem, by people who also speak English.

Is people around you getting ready for the Ramadam?

Yep, a few of them are.

Do Sihk people wear Rumal in their heads in the USA?

Yeah, all the guys who run the Avis rental car location at the San Jose airport.

How many people like this in the USA streets? (Attachement)

Not too many locally because we don't have a lot of Sikhs here. You find more in other cities. I did work with a Sikh dude several years ago, who wore a turban every day. We were working overtime on Saturdays to meet a big project deadline... Saturday was casual dress, so he would wear a turban that was an American flag. That was awesome. Anyway he lives in NYC now.

[DebtDetox]

I just lived in America for a while (I'm planning to go back) but I've seen people with African dress (immigrants obviously). I think this multicultural thing applies to immigrants and/or immigrant descendant. During my time there I've heard English and Spanish mostly. I think Spanish is going to be adopted as a 2nd language in some areas if I'm not mistaken. And you see many muslim women wear niqabs (even after 9/11).


What I'm trying to say is that multiculturalism is not just someone wearing rumal etc... American culture was founded by diverse cultures.Even though they're both European, you can't say French culture is the same as German culture. You can't say catholics are the same as Protestants. More broadly African American culture, Asian American culture, European American culture, have it's differences. But they have all something in common.

[M1iFiNmC]

The USA is in my opinion a multicultural Country, simply because our culture is not monolithic. Each region has its own unique culture, each state has its own unique culture for the most part. We have all kinds of festivals and celebrations, from German Dulcimer festivals, to Afram Jazz festivals, to Mexican coming of age rituals all of which are not exclusively attended by the ethinicites specific to each tradition. My Brahmin homeboi was tellng me of a grand celebration of Indian origin that was soon to be held, the "Duvali" or something along those lines. My crew which consists of blacks, whites, and hispanics are planning to attend, and I am sure there will be many other non indian people there. That in my opinion is Multiculturalism.

[sandracuk]

Yes, i agree. But they try to push the American culture and values to the immigrants, i think it is hard for the people to keep their original values. It is not bad, but it is not multiculturalism.
Yes, America was funded by several cultures but now it is one single culture with similar values.
i.e.:
-English from New England is different from English from England
-Irish from the USA is different from Irish from Ireland
-Puertorican from the USA is different from Puertorican from Puerto Rico
-Cuban from the USA is different from Cuban from Puerto Rico
-Jewish from the USA is different from Jewish from Puerto Rico
All of them are Americans and closer each other than to their roots.


In the USA everybody besides religion is very conservative
Is it possible for a woman to sunbath doing topless in the USA beaches?

I am not sure (i only know a small part of the USA) but as far as i know signals are only in English in the USA (maybe i am wrong).
On the other hand signals in Latin America are in many languages, (attachment) this is a typical Latam signal (actually most signals also include Chinese and Arabic translation):
In Italy there are Chinese people (second generation) who only speak Chinese and not Italian or English at all.
Would you see things like these in the USA?


Maybe i am wrong, my point is the USA have several cultures but all those cultures are American in nature. Same happens in all the countries in the world: Italian culture from calabria is different that Italian culture from Veneto. French culture from Navarra is different from French culture from Normandy. If America is multicultural then all the countries in the world are multicultural too.

I just lived in America for a while (I'm planning to go back) but I've seen people with African dress (immigrants obviously). I think this multicultural thing applies to immigrants and/or immigrant descendant. During my time there I've heard English and Spanish mostly. I think Spanish is going to be adopted as a 2nd language in some areas if I'm not mistaken. And you see many muslim women wear niqabs (even after 9/11).


What I'm trying to say is that multiculturalism is not just someone wearing rumal etc... American culture was founded by diverse cultures.Even though they're both European, you can't say French culture is the same as German culture. You can't say catholics are the same as Protestants. More broadly African American culture, Asian American culture, European American culture, have it's differences. But they have all something in common.

[DzjwMKo5]

Very few countries have a monolithic culture, that doesn't mean they are multicultural, America has an adaptable, assimilationist culture, but it is not multicultural.

[remstaling]

America is an "unofficial" multicultural country because there are plenty of people from all different parts
of the globe and all those people have their own ancestral culture/language/music/values/religion
all Americans share the same basic modern "American" culture but each individual family has its own culture they "practice" when they're at home or when their with people who share the same ethnic/ancestral nationality

[Nubtoubrem]

Very few countries have a monolithic culture, that doesn't mean they are multicultural, America has an adaptable, assimilationist culture, but it is not multicultural.

Well what countries would you call multicultural then? In my view having a bunch of different ethnicities living in a country together yet being closed off and seperate unable to even communicate together isn't quite multiculturalism, its something else that I cannot think of a word for right now.

A perfect example of monolithic country in my opinion is Japan, almost everyone there has the same biological and cultural background.

[Agrisalia]

Very few countries have a monolithic culture, that doesn't mean they are multicultural, America has an adaptable, assimilationist culture, but it is not multicultural.

That is my point, they assimilate other cultures but they are not multicultural.
All the culture in America is American culture, there are different influences but at the end it is only American culture.

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IMAO multicultural countries are those that have several cultures living together without influence each other.
Canada is more multicultural than the USA because it has different official languages in different cities.

IMAO Russia is the truly multicultural country.

Well what countries would you call multicultural then? In my view having a bunch of different ethnicities living in a country together yet being closed off and seperate unable to even communicate together isn't quite multiculturalism, its something else that I cannot think of a word for right now.

A perfect example of monolithic country in my opinion is Japan, almost everyone there has the same biological and cultural background.

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America is an "unofficial" multicultural country because there are plenty of people from all different parts
of the globe and all those people have their own ancestral culture/language/music/values/religion
all Americans share the same basic modern "American" culture but each individual family has its own culture they "practice" when they're at home or when their with people who share the same ethnic/ancestral nationality

I agree, but the same applies to Europe also. Spain is more multicultural than the USA, in the USA congress people can only speak in English.
In Spain the comunidades automonas have their official languages: Euskara, Valenciano, Galician.

[tussinelde]

There are groups of people everywhere here-- Indian, Chinese, Jewish, Greek, Spanish, African American, Vietnamese, European, just name it-- who have their own communities, worship in their own churches, shop at their own grocery stores, speak their own languages among their own people. There are lots and lots of people of Hispanic heritage who probably never have to speak a word of English. They have their own TV channels, newspapers, magazines, restaurants. Many areas of the country are completely dominated by one ethnicity, religion or culture. America is absolutely multicultural. If it's not, what is?

[dianakroshXX]

It is quite ridiculous to say that the US is not a multicultural country. White Americans are not rarely divided into groups of their own (WASP Americans, Italian Americans etc). And isn't African American English sometimes considered a language or very distinct dialect of its own? There are plenty of cities and towns that are dominated by certain ethnic (also cultural) groups, like New Jersey being "Italian" and San Diego being "Mexican". Not to mention "Chinatown".

Sweden is officially called a multicultural country, and it's not like all non-Swedish ethnic groups have their languages as official here.

[uMG6uOSo]

We need a clear definition of what Multicultural is supposed to mean.

[Misespimb]

IMAO multicultural countries are those that have several cultures living together without influence each other.
Canada is more multicultural than the USA because it has different official languages in different cities.

IMAO Russia is the truly multicultural country.

I see where you all are coming from now and I can see how you can make a distinction between what we have here in the USA and countries like Russia. Though in the case of countries that fit your definition of Multicult not everyone can participate in the diversity it seems. In my view my culture is Multi because it contains and incorporates elements that are not home grown, connecting those who come here into the overarching cultural sphere as well as adding some of their culture into the main system. But again that could be better described as Assimilatory .Though we do not have an official secondary language there are places you can go in which only one language in spoken. I know of several churches in which the service is done entirely in Spanish.

[Catieliecutty]

I'm not clear why Russia would be considered more multi-cultural than the USA. Russification made Russian the national language in the Russian empire and the USSR. Even in former satellite states which have re-adopted a national language (e.g. Kazakhstan) most business gets conducted in Russian. Not to mention the way they forcefully scrubbed religious and cultural influences out of these societies, and placed ethnic Russians in charge of many local institutions, often with a local ethnic deputy to keep the appearance of unity.

Actually Russian expansion in the east looks a lot like what happened during American expansion to the west.

On the language aspect of this, I am not sure that it is the most important, nor is it really practical to maintain some tower of Babel scenario in your society when you have people from all over the planet who speak dozens of different language. Look at Canada for example, with English and French cultures, they look multicultural but they also have a separatist movement. That's not the kind of multiculturalism I'm looking to have in my country, the kind that divides it.

[Flirigor]

We are a country almost completely based on immigration. I can drive down the street in little old Pensacola and there are Vietnamese communities, black communities, Indian communities... I even know of an apartment building where lots of Korean families live, and an Asian grocery store right next door. I don't think multiculturalism is necessarily "good" or "bad", but this question is so absurd it irritates me. I am not easily irritated. Have you even been to America, Sean?

[psbiuigw]

We are a country almost completely based on immigration. I can drive down the street in little old Pensacola and there are Vietnamese communities, black communities, Indian communities... I even know of an apartment building where lots of Korean families live, and an Asian grocery store right next door. I don't think multiculturalism is necessarily "good" or "bad", but this question is so absurd it irritates me. I am not easily irritated. Have you even been to America, Sean?

basically If a country is multiethnical is also multicultural especially If most of those ethnicities are relatively recent immigrants and still hold the languages/cultures of the countries they or their ancestors came from