[Caregrasy]

I think polygamy could help to save many marriages, a man instead of having mistresses around there, he could bring them home and make a bigger family.
Many people also has bastard kids with other women other than his wife, under this schema those kids could be integrated in the same family.


These are the words of a revolutionary Russian leader:

Ramzan Kadyrov, the head of the southern Russian republic of Chechnya fully supports the idea of polygamy, but has not yet found a woman beautiful enough to become his second wife, a Russian newspaper reported on Thursday.

Kadyrov's wife, Medni, is from his native village of Tsentoroi. They have six children.

"If there is love, it's ok to have four wives... If you can build a home, keep your wives in the same conditions, not infringe their rights" Kadyrov said in an interview with Russia's Komsomolskaya Pravda paper.

"It is much fairer than keeping one or two mistresses while your children starve at home," Kadyrov said.

He said he did not cheat on his wife. "If my wife was against polygamy I wouldn't have married her," Kadyrov was reported as saying with a laugh.

When asked why he has not yet married for a second time, Kadyrov said he was looking for a bride.

"Currently, I am on the look out, but I can not find a beautiful one. If there was, I would marry her immediately," he was quoted as saying. "I am always on the look out for a worthy bride."
Opinions:
Do you think poligamy could help to restore the family values?
Do you think the Government has the right to control how and who people marry?

[NanoKakadze]

I think polygamy could help to save many marriages, a man instead of having mistresses around there, he could bring them home and make a bigger family.
Many people also has bastard kids with other women other than his wife, under this schema those kids could be integrated in the same family.


These are the words of a revolutionary Russian leader:




Opinions:
Do you think poligamy could help to restore the family values?Do you think the Government has the right to control how and who people marry?

No. I think it'll worsen the whole situation, rivalry between the women and the kids will most likely occur. In these cases it's usually the oldest wife being the dominant one. This will rather rip the family apart..
-At least this is how I view it. I know how women can be very jealous sometimes.

On the other hand it's like you're suggesting that only men can cheat on their spouses, while it might as well be the other way around. Therefore you should have taken Polyandry into consideration as well(..).

[InvertPrete]

Does family values = male narcissism? If it means the outnumbering of excessive male (or female) narcissism then it could occasionally. Children are somewhat adaptive. But the whole of human history is against it as anything other than an exception.

[DioraMoostebeers]

I think polygamy could help to save many marriages, a man instead of having mistresses around there, he could bring them home and make a bigger family.
Many people also has bastard kids with other women other than his wife, under this schema those kids could be integrated in the same family.

I'm afraid Western civilization will never accept it but in fact you are correct

[PilotVertolet]

No. I think it'll worsen the whole situation, rivalry between the women and the kids will most likely occur. In these cases it's usually the oldest wife being the dominant one. This will rather rip the family apart..
-At least this is how I view it. I know how women can be very jealous sometimes.

On the other hand it's like you're suggesting that only men can cheat on their spouses, while it might as well be the other way around. Therefore you should have taken Polyandry into consideration as well(..).

Polyandry is a non-sense from the biological point of view. Poligyny is different, but I'm against as well, except when the number of men is considerable lower than the women number.

[Teareerah]

Polyandry is a non-sense from the biological point of view. Poligyny is different, but I'm against as well, except when the number of men is considerable lower than the women number.

I'm not a proponent of both. But following his logic, polyandry would prevent women from actually cheating on their husband(as well) as it would allow them to have more at the same time.

[libertiespana]

Polyandry exists. There are women who don't guarantee exclusivity to one man. On another (Dutch-Belgian) forum I visit there is one such woman. I guess it's rarer than a menage Ã* trois between a man with two women, but it exists.
It's not biology which makes it so, so I think, but culture.

As for the subject, I think it's bad to mess with the natural balance between men and women. There are only about 50% women and 50% men in our society. In my opinion I see no wrong, however IF polyandry would be just a prevalent. Also about the case of a friendship between two couples to turn into a love relationship between four people. If people can handle such a lifestyle I don't see why I should be against them when they're happy that way.

[Sanremogirl]

Pros:

More women to help with the kids
Husband won't get as bored sexually


Cons:

Women developing rivalries
One wife might mistreat another wife's child (this might well happen, just like stepparents do this sometimes)
Man cannot provide for all members of the family
Man chooses a "favorite" wife (sucks to be the other wives)
Women fighting over things such as home decorating (I would be extremely territorial in my home)
Everyday complications: Vacations, going out to eat, normal activities would be somewhat more complicated
Legal complications such as estate planning
It's hard enough to compromise on things as a couple, it would be hell if other women are involved!
I cannot see how raw feelings and jealousy could be avoided in this situation.
...........

Seems to me the cons outweigh the pros....

[Sxedlawb]

Opinions:
Do you think poligamy could help to restore the family values?
Do you think the Government has the right to control how and who people marry?

why do people cheat?

in my oppinion because of many reasons such as:

male egoism
problematic relationships with lack of communication
wrong relationships (traped in marriage due to kids)
their nature
"forbiden fruit pleasure"

would polygamy treat these problems?
honnestly i doubt it.

as for the family values, i don't think they would be restored, infact i think that polygamy isn't compatible with the models of our sociaties especialy with christianity.

now about the goverment, both yes and no, people can do anything they want in their personal lifes, they can allready have polygamy but just not officialy recognised, the goverment should secure and safeguard the public morality fom "immoral" people as well as to some extent the standards set by the religion.

finaly the guy who you mention is a muslim :P

[Quaganoca]

Its a bit of contradiction- restore 'family values'- by polygamy. What kind of 'family values' are you meaning?

Its like saying that legalising theft would eliminate thieves.

[pinawinekolad]

Polyandry is nuts and senseless, because a women can only get pregnant from one men every 9 months.

About the poligamy and the family values i take the mormons as example, some of them are polygamous and they have strong families.

The rivalry is a serious issue, but it also exist in divorced couples that are very usual.

I know many girls that are disposed to share a man.

My intention is not to promote polygamy, but i am curious about the views of the society.

[RicyReetred]

Pros:

More women to help with the kids
Husband won't get as bored sexually


Cons:

Women developing rivalries
One wife might mistreat another wife's child (this might well happen, just like stepparents do this sometimes)
Man cannot provide for all members of the family
Man chooses a "favorite" wife (sucks to be the other wives)
Women fighting over things such as home decorating (I would be extremely territorial in my home)
Everyday complications: Vacations, going out to eat, normal activities would be somewhat more complicated
Legal complications such as estate planning
It's hard enough to compromise on things as a couple, it would be hell if other women are involved!
I cannot see how raw feelings and jealousy could be avoided in this situation.
...........

Seems to me the cons outweigh the pros....

In the TV show Sister Wives, which documents a polygamist family, this occurred. The original three wives seemed fine, but when a new wife was introduced, one who happened to be younger and prettier, the other wives seemed extremely jealous of her, though they tried to hide these feelings. The husband didn't seem to care that much about the other wives feelings and looked like he was annoyed by it. The new wife was worried about the other wives not liking her and she was trying to please them at every chance so that there wouldn't be conflict.





The second clip makes me laugh because of the wives' reaction to the new wife crying, they seem so annoyed by her

[asivisepo]

I think it only makes sense in situations where the male to female demographic is already unbalanced, i.e. half the men died at war and a bunch of widows and orphans back in the homeland. Otherwise you are just bottlenecking the diversity you already have to some subset of breeders in your male population.

[RjkVwPcV]

Pros:
More women to help with the kids
Husband won't get as bored sexually

These are two co-wives cooking together, isnt it beautiful?

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I think it only makes sense in situations where the male to female demographic is already unbalanced, i.e. half the men died at war and a bunch of widows and orphans back in the homeland. Otherwise you are just bottlenecking the diversity you already have to some subset of breeders in your male population.

Think about it, women want the best man. If there is a bottle neck it would be with the best men, better genes, better offspring. Actually that is happening right now, Only 40% of the men have kids, most of them the tall men, that is a good explanation to the difference of height between our generation and the baby boombers.

[ringsarcle]

now about the goverment, both yes and no, people can do anything they want in their personal lifes, they can allready have polygamy but just not officialy recognised, the goverment should secure and safeguard the public morality fom "immoral" people as well as to some extent the standards set by the religion.

I dont think the Goverment should involve in the personal lives of the people or the morality.

finaly the guy who you mention is a muslim :P

It seems they have all the fun. Anyway that is ad hominim and the guy sounds sincere to me, he doest even have a second wife yet, he is working of the rights of his people.

[Jadldqys]

These are two co-wives cooking together, isnt it beautiful?

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Think about it, women want the best man. If there is a bottle neck it would be with the best men, better genes, better offspring. Actually that is happening right now, Only 40% of the men have kids, most of them the tall men, that is a good explanation to the difference of height between our generation and the baby boombers.

I haven't seen stats to that effect but I'll take you word for it for the moment. There are many other factors in polygamous societies besides height and other physical traits, with money and power being major ones. Not sure that the wealthy always represent the healthiest part of your gene pool. It makes the masses less able to find partners, similar to the one child rule and abortion of females in China, which in turn leads to other social problems.

[GZFL2tDA]

Polyandry is nuts and senseless, because a women can only get pregnant from one men every 9 months.

In my opinion it's not a race of making the most children as fast as possible.

[Kiliunjubl]

I haven't seen stats to that effect but I'll take you word for it for the moment. There are many other factors in polygamous societies besides height and other physical traits, with money and power being major ones. Not sure that the wealthy always represent the healthiest part of your gene pool. It makes the masses less able to find partners, similar to the one child rule and abortion of females in China, which in turn leads to other social problems.

My figure was illustrative, i am not sure how many males have kids, but i am sure that healthier (alpha) males have more kids.

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In my opinion it's not a race of making the most children as fast as possible.

It is true, i used the biology argument. But it is also no man likes women that have belonged to many men.

[suilusargaino]

It is true, i used the biology argument. But it is also no man likes women that have belonged to many men.

I can only talk for myself, but I personally don't mind who a woman has been with before. I understand your point though, women are often called sluts where men would be called alpha. Most societies are quite patriarchal in nature, Western civilization not in the slightest. In my opinion this is certainly true the more Southern you go in Europe.

In my opinion if too few women would be available you'd see men more going after married women. I think this is also why in Islam women need to stay at home and sexes are segregated.

[Nesskissabe]

I can only talk for myself, but I personally don't mind who a woman has been with before. I understand your point though, women are often called sluts where men would be called alpha. Most societies are quite patriarchal in nature, Western civilization not in the slightest. In my opinion this is certainly true the more Southern you go in Europe.

I dont think a man who sleeps with many gilrs can be called alpha, i dont promote the promiscuity, but i do care about how many times a girl and with who have had sex. If i could marry a virgin better, but i dont take that as a decisive factor.

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In my opinion if too few women would be available you'd see men more going after married women. I think this is also why in Islam women need to stay at home and sexes are segregated.

Good point, i don't want to make it standard but i don't see myself living all my life with only one woman and i dont want to be charged with felony for bigamy. One night stand is not an option because the diseases. I think the correct path may be the way the church of the LDS suggest.