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Old 06-22-2011, 02:09 AM   #1
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Default Brazil's catwalks are too white, say protesters
Brazil's catwalks are too white, say protesters | World news | The Guardian


Santos added that while racial inclusion had advanced considerably in higher education, with more than 160 public universities now supporting racial quotas, the fashion industry lagged behind.

She said: "According to the latest census we blacks represent 50.8% of the Brazilian population. This means an event which presents a majority of people with typically European characteristics does not represent the beauty and wealth of Brazilian ethnicity. Brazil is a country that still insists on emphasising its European side and discriminating against its beautiful indigenous and Afro-Brazilian populations. We do not want catwalks that look like catwalks in Switzerland or England."

This is coming from an Afro-Brazilian, not some American with a biased opinion of Brazil so naysayers read and weep!
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:20 AM   #2
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Hmm, maybe the European looking Brazilians, who tend to be the wealthiest in the country, have the time and money to go to casting calls and such. Also, the models are probably doing more international campaigns, in America and Europe, and most of the consumers of fashion tend to be whites, so they're trying to appeal to them. I do agree though, that there needs to be more indigenous and Afro-Brazilians models because they're also beautiful.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:22 AM   #3
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I don't know why people focus so much on the fashion industry. It's not really important. It's superfluous, just like most of the media.

I prefer to concentrate on the first statement of the first paragraph:

Santos added that while racial inclusion had advanced considerably in higher education, with more than 160 public universities now supporting racial quotas, the fashion industry lagged behind.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:31 AM   #4
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Haven't this article been posted already many times?
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:32 AM   #5
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Fashion industry is gay.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:34 AM   #6
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Hmm, maybe the European looking Brazilians, who tend to be the wealthiest in the country, have the time and money to go to casting calls and such. Also, the models are probably doing more international campaigns, in America and Europe, and most of the consumers of fashion tend to be whites, so they're trying to appeal to them. I do agree though, that there needs to be more indigenous and Afro-Brazilians models because they're also beautiful.
That's basically what i was going to write.

I see this as a case of demand and suply. If anyone is to blame, it's the international fashion industry.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:06 AM   #7
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She said: "According to the latest census we blacks represent 50.8% of the Brazilian population. On other forums I've seen Brazilians question that figure.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:18 AM   #8
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On other forums I've seen Brazilians question that figure.
Yeap most of those people are Pardo
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:39 AM   #9
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Yeap most of those people are Pardo
Afro-Brazilian = Pardo (Mixed) and Black

A lot of the Brazilian people I know put the exclusively black figure at around 25% of the total population.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:41 AM   #10
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Brazil is not 50% percent black, however I believe that most Brazilians have some Black ancestry.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:09 AM   #11
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What % of brazil is really white? most brazilian mma fighters look like bigfoot silva and have that non-euro admixture. Is fair to say brazil i aproximately 25-30% pred black 40% pardo and 30-35% white? that has been my impression so far..
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:18 AM   #12
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Fashion industry is gay.
Great, thats dynamite Mary.... thanks for the input.

I never knew Brazil was so racialised though, I think its just the paraidgm of beauty at the moment in South America appears to be this look, but it will change, im sure at some point int he future there will be quotas for white girls !

Its already happening in America, ghetto booty, kim Karshidan etc all creeping into common perceptions of beauty. In south America those who are successful are inevitably white though, whether thats racism, discrimination I don't know, but success is attractive I suppose.

Some of those mulattas are beautiful though, Id love to see them on the fashion walk!
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:22 AM   #13
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What % of brazil is really white? most brazilian mma fighters look like bigfoot silva and have that non-euro admixture. Is fair to say brazil i aproximately 25-30% pred black 40% pardo and 30-35% white? that has been my impression so far..
and the Indigenous percentage? Japanese percentage?
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:24 AM   #14
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What % of brazil is really white? most brazilian mma fighters look like bigfoot silva and have that non-euro admixture. Is fair to say brazil i aproximately 25-30% pred black 40% pardo and 30-35% white? that has been my impression so far..
That sounds accurate imo
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:27 AM   #15
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South Brazil is about 80% White according to wiki, it also states that 50,000 Germans settled there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...ite_Brazilians
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:32 AM   #16
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Afro-centrist trying to turn Brazil into Rwanda. Blacks in Brazil or no more than 10%.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:32 AM   #17
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South Brazil is about 80% White according to wiki, it also states that 50,000 Germans settled there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...ite_Brazilians
according to wikipedia white brazilians are 51,7% of the population, which even most brazilian posters would find fairly ridiculous..

In a country where european phenotypes dominate wealthy social class and are the symbol of beauty standard its kind of logical that many pred black people will likely to identify with pardo, and many pardos will claim being of entirely or predominant european ancestry, which doesnt mean they really are.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:39 AM   #18
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This is the leader of the manifestation, Frei David dos Santos (according to his DNA test his ancestry would be 68,20% SSA African, 30,80% European and 1,0% Amerindian; interestingly both his yDNA and his mtDNA haplogroup are Native American!).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/portuguese/repo...david_cg.shtml
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:42 AM   #19
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This is the leader of the manifestation Frei David dos Santos (according to his DNA test his ancestry would be 68,20% SSA African, 30,80% European and 1,0% Amerindian; interesting both his yDNA and his mtDNA haplogroup are Native American!).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/portuguese/repo...david_cg.shtml
I won't consider him black.
Wasn't their some famous Brazilean that scored 68% Euro but looked very African ?
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:43 AM   #20
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Afro-centrist trying to turn Brazil into Rwanda. Blacks in Brazil or no more than 10%.
How do you know? Have you traveled to Brazil to know the exact %? My Brazilian friend called herself "Pardo", and she looked like this.
http://www.altfg.com/Stars/p/precious-mo-nique.JPG

This is simply "Black" in most parts of the Western World.
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