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Old 06-15-2011, 04:51 AM   #21
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There is this idea that Jews were chosen by God to widespread his word - the chosen nation. I don't know how it is now, but there was a time when Jews really represented themselves as the chosen ones and of course others didn't like that. The second and the most important reason is the non-recognition of Jesus as the son of the God. European and American cultures are based on Christian values, so even atheists living in Europe or in America are part of this Christian culture and identity that from the crucifixion of Jesus has kept this antipathy towards Jews. This antipathy lies in the essence of our culture
Let me quote The Jerusalem Post:


The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews, according to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the head of Shas’s Council of Torah Sages and a senior Sephardi adjudicator.

“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” he said in his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat.

According to Yosef, the lives of non-Jews in Israel are safeguarded by divinity, to prevent losses to Jews.

“In Israel, death has no dominion over them... With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

This is his servant... That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,” Yosef said.


“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.

That is why gentiles were created,” he added.

Yosef’s Saturday night sermons have seen many controversial statements from the 90-year-old rabbi. In August, Yosef caused a diplomatic uproar when he wished a plague upon the Palestinian people and their leaders, a curse he retracted a few weeks later, when he blessed them along with all of Israel’s other peace-seeking neighbors



Link: http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/Jew...aspx?id=191782

(the link appears to be down - but theres google cache)

That's zionism: establish a Lebensraum where the Chosen Race can multiply, separated from all lebensunwertes Leben and semihumans.

Do onto others as the naziz did to your parents
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:54 AM   #22
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I think people are scared when they see the closeness and unity of the Jewish people, they're a folk driven toward money and success, and their unity makes them a strong minority with a lot of influence.

Viva Jews, viva Israel, and viva Zionism
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:54 AM   #23
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Probably because of the condescending nature of their religion and their segregationism. I think that is the worst side to Judaism.

Of course in the wider perspective of things, as I always say, Islam and Christianity are right up there with Judaism in terms of shit-stirring. I'd say perhaps the reason Jews are often singled out is because they are a smaller minority, of which the majority are minorities in different countries. There is only a single Jewish state and that state is the most controversial on earth. I'd imagine if the Jewish population were higher and there were more Jewish countries, there wouldn't be large communities separating themselves from the general population, which would in turn lead to less friction.
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:58 AM   #24
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what driven hitler and his crew to kill 6 million jews when his country only had 200.000, why did he pick up jews even from greece that was so totaly relevant to his reich and send them to poland?

can pure hate justify that? i don't think so. Goering was the most intelligent nazi (had the highest IQ) and he said (I dont agree with his words):


"there are two superiour nations in Europe, Germand and Jews, but there is only enough space for one of them".
On another hand, Hitler used hatred against jews to come to power, being anti semitic was a smart move by him since it got him what he wanted
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:03 AM   #25
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what funny about this is that results and horror of the war is directly responsible for the multicultural madness of europe today basically europe changed its jews for arabs, negros and others good trade europe.





only idiots among us believe that garbage. Besides, most Christian values are.... jewish values and a large part of the Bible is ... Torah
The big difference between Jews and Christians is that Jews don't recognize Jesus as the son of the God, that is basically why Christianity developed.
For Christians the New Testament is the most important part of the Bible. It is our beginning, it is the keystone for our faith. For Jews it is like a mendacious fiction, because Jews don't believe in Jesus as the Saviour. They are still waiting for him to come.
I have read Torah and I had a course about Jewish history and culture. My great grandfather was a Jew, so I am really into all these things.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:06 AM   #26
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The big difference between Jews and Christians is that Jews don't recognize Jesus as the son of the God, that is basically why Christianity developed. lol, do YOU recognize him as son of god ?
Christianity developed from a cult of followers, there have been many of such cults, but this one stayed and the other ones perished.

For Christians the New Testament is the most important part of the Bible. It is our beginning, it is the keystone for our faith. For Jews it is like a mendacious fiction, because Jews don't believe in Jesus as the Saviour. They are still waiting for him to come. of course its the most important part of the bible for christians, I dont see how christianity could have used the Torah as their main book lol.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:07 AM   #27
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Goering was the most intelligent nazi (had the highest IQ) and he said (I dont agree with his words):


"there are two superiour nations in Europe, Germand and Jews, but there is only enough space for one of them".
On another hand, Hitler used hatred against jews to come to power, being anti semitic was a smart move by him since it got him what he wanted
jews were for sure not supperior in terms of military ... right?

you can see where i am taking this, i am sure :P
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:08 AM   #28
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jews were for sure not supperior in terms of military ... right?

you can see where i am taking this, i am sure :P
who said he was talking about the military ? and I dont care where you are taking this... right ? )
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:09 AM   #29
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The big difference between Jews and Christians is that Jews don't recognize Jesus as the son of the God, that is basically why Christianity developed.
For Christians the New Testament is the most important part of the Bible. It is our beginning, it is the keystone for our faith. For Jews it is like a mendacious fiction, because Jews don't believe in Jesus as the Saviour. They are still waiting for him to come.
I have read Torah and I had a course about Jewish history and culture. My great grandfather was a Jew, so I am really into all these things.
Actually there's a huge difference between the two, Jesus is not the only thing, in practice Islam is closer to Judaism than Christianity.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:10 AM   #30
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lol, do YOU recognize him as son of god ?
Christianity developed from a cult of followers, there have been many of such cults, but this one stayed and the other ones perished.



of course its the most important part of the bible for christians, I dont see how christianity could have used the Torah as their main book lol.
We are not talking here about my beliefs.
I know that Christians are seen as sectarians form the point of view of Jews.
Do you understand why the New Testament is so important for Christians?
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:11 AM   #31
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Do you understand why the New Testament is so importnant for Christians? yes of course, people whos mind is poisoned by religion need a holy book.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:14 AM   #32
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I like the Semites in general, i dislike the Zionism, specially the Likud Party.

I also dislike all that ancient mentality, still in some orthodox minds, that the Jews are the chosen people and Joshua killing the Canaanites to get the promised land.
I extremely dislike the way Israel moves: spies, doing "Justice" outside the international courts (they killed nazis, there was a Trial under international laws for them).

That behavior is doing damage to themselves, because they are in constant war they live in paranoid. All the Jewish buildings all around the world, have special security measures, from schools to embassies all the buildings have some kind of barrier (idk its name) to be protected from bomb cars. (see in picture in the kerb)
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:15 AM   #33
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who said he was talking about the military ? and I dont care where you are taking this... right ? )
he was indeed talking about economical power that translates to political power, germans blamed the jews for their economical situation and if i judge from how obama talks to apaic they weren't wrong.
i don't justify neither racism or exterminations or any other idiotic concept, but i cannot accept that whatever happened to the jews in the course of time is just luck or blind haters as the guy in the video suggests.

books like the protocols of zion, writen by jews, or the secret police of the tsar still do exist and there should be a better reason behind them.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:18 AM   #34
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Actually there's a huge difference between the two, Jesus is not the only thing, in practice Islam is closer to Judaism than Christianity.
All three major religions of the world - Judaism, Christianity and Islam are really similar, especially when it comes to different activities that are part of the religious life.
In Judaism Jesus was and still is seen as liar, in Christianity he is the Saviour, but in Islam he is one of the prophets.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:20 AM   #35
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he was indeed talking about economical power that translates to political power, germans blamed the jews for their economical situation and if i judge from how obama talks to apaic they weren't wrong.
i don't justify neither racism or exterminations or any other idiotic concept, but i cannot accept that whatever happened to the jews in the course of time is just luck or blind haters
yes of course, its the jews fault that German lost the world war 1, its also the jews fault that Wall street had a bubble (based on human greed and industrial revolution of the first 30 years of last century) which had burst in 1929 resulting in a depression.


and whats gonna happen next to American/European economy (credit bubble) will obviously be jews fault when the markets collapse once again (for real this time, making 2008 look like a joke) in the coming years.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:21 AM   #36
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yes of course, people whos mind is poisoned by religion need a holy book.
Ahhh, so you admit Torah, but make fun of the New Testament, you must be a practising Jew.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:22 AM   #37
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Ahhh, so you admit Torah, but make fun of the New Testament, you must be a practising Jew.
who said I admitted Torah ? I simply said that it was a large part of the Bible. And I did not make fun of the "new testament", I just said that if you practice a religion then you need a "holy" book which happens to be the "new testament".
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:26 AM   #38
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yes of course, its the jews fault that German lost the world war 1, its also the jews fault that Wall street had a bubble (based on human greed and industrial revolution of the first 30 years of last century) which had burst in 1929 resulting in a depression.

and whats gonna happen next to American/European economy (credit bubble) will obviously be jews fault when the markets collapse once again (for real this time, making 2008 look like a joke) in the coming years.
jews do control holywood, jews do have a powerful lobby in the united states, jews did somehow managed to create their israel, jews do control the press in the united states.
(this is some serious ball licking)
but ofc all the things and the 2000 years of hate against them is not their fault... its pure luck!

i still don't understand why muslims also killed the jews... i mean medieval persians were not christians lol.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:30 AM   #39
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I don't understand it. Jews have accomplished a lot in the sciences and other areas. There are certainly more undesirable populations of people than Jews. Especially now that Christian religion isn't as important in Europe, why dislike Jews? The only people who have a valid dislike for them are Palestinians. I've met Arabs from North Africa who hate Jews. These idiots have zero connection to Palestine........


I think many people just are sheep and hate Jews because we've been hating them for hundreds of years. Maybe jealously of their accomplishments and money also
Kevin MacDonald explains it all here:

The Conservatism of Fools: A Response to John Derbyshire: http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-derbyshire.html
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:31 AM   #40
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jews do control holywood, jews do have a powerful lobby in the united states, jews did somehow managed to create their israel, jews do control the press in the united states.
but ofc all the things and the 2000 years of hate against them is not their fault... its pure luck!

i still don't understand why muslims also killed the jews... i mean medieval persians were not christians lol.
Yes, jews should be gassed for "controlling hollywood", for having a powerful lobby and so on, I agree.

And about islam vs juadism, well, without sarcasm now, when Mohammed created this new religion he needed an enemy, and I bet he saw competition in Judaism too, so it was a smart thing by him to advise his future followers to kill jews. Mohammed or whoever created islam was obviously not an idiot.
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