[Dkavtbek]

Was there ever one for Mestizos? It seems to be the complete opposite with Mullatoes.

[Optipitle]

Personally I find it weird , practically you would have to deny your other half..
Why are you asking this anyway?

[Gulauur]

In the US?

Policy in many colonies was to absorb or replace native populations. Theoretically creating a peaceful avenue for geographic expansion along with Christian-izing heathens thought to be more closely related in appearance with racial features easier to eradicate in one to two generations.
The reality was more complex, especially as more European immigrants flooded in. People often hid native ancestry, and in parts of the North natives were ostracized more than blacks and mullattoes as a greater threat.

It was envisioned as a white country (a new world for proper white Europeans to escape the decadence of Old Europe and create a land according to the will of God).
Africans were perceived as harder to absorb, with litte impetus to do so. Many wanted the slave trade stopped as developing into a full slave society would entail droves of imported Africans. The uneasy balance was slave=black and white=free, immigrants shunning the mixed to ensure full inclusion as whites, and slave status (therefore race) being determined through the mother in near conjuction with laws forbidding interracial marriages and legal unions. Reality was also more nuanced.

[popandopulus]

'Mestizo' countries were never subject to Jim Crow-style jurisdiction like the United States. Even during the colonial period, racial caste distinctions were already blurry anwyway, one-droppism would have proved impractical. A person with 1/8th documented non-European ancestry was considered a 'criollo', both socially and legally. I'm guessing the inverse would have been true as well for a person of overwhelmingly indigenous or African ancestry.

[opelonafqe]

Mongloloids and whites are genetically closer so to speak, and mongolid traits could even dissapear in one or two generations:

Such as Brandon Lee's case.

http://citricosdecine.files.wordpres...randon_lee.jpg

While black heritage is more dominant and tends to prevail even after generations black traits continue to show.


Lets remember native americans are considered mongoloids.

[horoshevapola]

Because Latin America wasn't ruled by Anglos

[thomaskkk]

Was there ever one for Mestizos? It seems to be the complete opposite with Mullatoes. The One-drop rule in America started because West Africans were brought over as slaves to work on plantations, and it wasn't uncommon for White Southerners to have sexual relations with Black slaves.The One-drop rule became common to identify the individuals of such pairings and "keep them in their place", so to speak - the fact that they had European ancestry wasn't enough to make them "White" in society, because they had obvious Black admixture and were born into slavery. Even after slavery was abolished in 1865, the one-drop rule was still prevalent; having any African ancestry made one "Black".

Mestizos in America have a completely different history than Black Americans. But I wouldn't rule out the One-drop rule for them either: although they have European ancestry, they certainly were never considered "White". For example, on the US Census Bureau forms, there is a box specifically for "Non-Hispanic Whites" implying that having any Hispanic blood makes one Non-White.

[Vomekayafboke]

The One-drop rule in America started because West Africans were brought over as slaves to work on plantations, and it wasn't uncommon for White Southerners to have sexual relations with Black slaves.The One-drop rule became common to identify the individuals of such pairings and "keep them in their place", so to speak - the fact that they had European ancestry wasn't enough to make them "White" in society, because they had obvious Black admixture and were born into slavery. Even after slavery was abolished in 1865, the one-drop rule was still prevalent; having any African ancestry made one "Black".

Mestizos in America have a completely different history than Black Americans. But I wouldn't rule out the One-drop rule for them either: although they have European ancestry, they certainly were never considered "White". For example, on the US Census Bureau forms, there is a box specifically for "Non-Hispanic Whites" implying that having any Hispanic blood makes one Non-White.

You just took away all doubts I had about the US...

[Gabbavnf]

Because there isn't nearly as much/any negative connotation to Oriental/Native ancestry compared to that of black African ancestry in the Western world.

Nobody cares that Tiger Woods is a 5/8 Mongoloid golfer. They care that he's a 2/8 Negroid golfer. Who knows that Rob Schneider is half Asian? Everyone knows that Halle Berry is half black.

[Ceriopal]

You just took away all doubts I had about the US... I don't see why that would be perceived as bad though. The purpose of the Census is to collect an accurate account of demographics. So a Hispanic person can check off their country of origin (Mexican, Brazilian, etc) or that they are of African descent, European descent, biracial, triracial, Latino, etc....but they are still Hispanic regardless of racial background. So that's why there's specifically a Non-Hispanic White box. A cultural difference still exists between White Americans and White Hispanics.

[Gazeboss]

I don't see why that would be perceived as bad though. The purpose of the Census is to collect an accurate account of demographics. So a Hispanic person can check off their country of origin (Mexican, Brazilian, etc) or that they are of African descent, European descent, biracial, triracial, Latino, etc....but they are still Hispanic regardless of racial background. So that's why there's specifically a Non-Hispanic White box. A cultural difference still exists between White Americans and White Hispanics.

Never implied anything like that.

[eljugadordepoquer]

I don't see why that would be perceived as bad though. The purpose of the Census is to collect an accurate account of demographics. So a Hispanic person can check off their country of origin (Mexican, Brazilian, etc) or that they are of African descent, European descent, biracial, triracial, Latino, etc....but they are still Hispanic regardless of racial background. So that's why there's specifically a Non-Hispanic White box. A cultural difference still exists between White Americans and White Hispanics.

Well there are cultural differences between white americans and white hispanics that's true but I think white americans are culturally different to Spaniards,Italians,portugueses,greeks,russians,mol davians,Syrians,etc and still their descendants are counted as white americans in the census so...
and I think a white hispanic who's been born and raised in USA is much more culturally closer to white americans than a Swedish immigrant is to white americans

[@Aerodyno@]

Because Latin America wasn't ruled by Anglos

cafman is right here. Latin America was ruled by the Spanish, not the Brits. That is way these "rules" were different in the Colonial US vs. Latin America.

[zdlupikkkdi]

Because once you're mixed with black, white society will view you as black until it's diluted to the point of non-recognition. On the other hand, Mestizos are not necessarily viewed as "half-white", but their own "race".

Caucasoids are more related to Amerindoids, but these groups in their unmixed form look drastically different, especially in body form and facial structure.

In all honesty I think the average Mulatta looks better than the Mestiza, and I'm sure most ppl would agree.

75/25 - Afro/Amerinds can look real good too. They tend to have a Tatyana Ali or Garifuna type look.

[IACJdKfU]

You just took away all doubts I had about the US...

Let me expand on what that poster said:

In the US, both black and white are US specific ethno-racial labels:

white=White American. An American of European ancestry.
black=African American. An American of African ancestry.

Deceased Cuban singer Celia Cruz is:
-A Hispanic/Latina. She would not fill out the box reserved for 'White, Non-Hispanic' or 'Black, Non-Hispanic'.
In the latest census, she would have been asked to fill out an extra 'racial' category.
A blond blue eyed Puerto Rican is a Hispanic. Hence the category 'Non-Hispanic White'. To illustrate it further: This same Puerto Rican, walking around say NY/NJ, would most commonly self-identify as a) Puerto Rican and then b) Latino/Hispanic. Not white. Same for a black Hispanic. Obviously they know what socially defined 'race' they are within the context of their country/culture. But in the US, black=African American and white=white American.

[DEMassteers]

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[CitsMoise17]

I am wondering, is there anything like "one drop rule" in eg African black societies?
All people are black, is someone who has eg10% white blood considered "not full black" or even white?

[tutkarussia]

I am wondering, is there anything like "one drop rule" in eg African black societies?
All people are black, is someone who has eg10% white blood considered "not full black" or even white?

No way...... If that were the case most New World Blacks would not be able to identify as black

[FuXA8nQM]

In Latin America, a person with 1% non-white is considered mixed and not white, but not considered pure black or any other ethncicity, just mixed.

[TornadoPD]

I am wondering, is there anything like "one drop rule" in eg African black societies?
All people are black, is someone who has eg10% white blood considered "not full black" or even white?

Yes there is They reject you if you have visible admixture. Its like "you're not black enough to hang with us". My grandmother is a light skinned black woman and they call her "white"