[adverwork]

Everytime i come along those average morphs by country i noticed immediately how darker the finnish morph is compared to swedish, danish and dutch morph,(havent seen much norwegian morphs to be honest) and it's no lighter than german morph actually, why do finns always have the stereotype that they are the blondest people in the world.. i've never understood it anyways...

If i base my experience on real life .. scandinavians, specially the danish are actually lighter than finns on average.. there is no way finns would come out as being lighter.. many finns have pretty dark hair(naturally) which is almost completly absent in some parts of scandinavia (mainland denmark comes to mind).


Lets comment it.

[Peter Hill]

I dont know, but the darkest finns live in the Southwest and in Ostrobothnia.

[orbidewa]

Everytime i come along those average morphs by country i noticed immediately how darker the finnish morph is compared to swedish, danish and dutch morph,(havent seen much norwegian morphs to be honest) and it's no lighter than german morph actually, why do finns always have the stereotype that they are the blondest people in the world.. i've never understood it anyways...

If i base my experience on real life .. scandinavians, specially the danish are actually lighter than finns on average.. there is no way finns would come out as being lighter.. many finns have pretty dark hair(naturally) which is almost completly absent in some parts of scandinavia (mainland denmark comes to mind).


Lets comment it.

Seriously? Swedes are significantly darker in hair color than Finns and also a little bit darker in eye color.

2010 Swedish Olympic Hockey Team (excluding non-ethnics):

Swedish Hockey Team.jpg

2010 Finnish Olympic Hockey Team (excluding non-ethnics):

Finnish Hockey Team.jpg

11 out of 22 Finns have blond hair vs. only 5 out of 20 Swedes.
20 out of 22 Finns have light eyes vs. 18 out of 20 Swedes.

Maps:

haircolormap.jpgeyecolormap.jpg

EDIT: Exclude Matthias Weinhandl from Swedish list (one left from bottom right). He's of German descent.

[LxtdK9i4]

An atypical dane

[DYjLN8rF]

I dont know, but the darkest finns live in the Southwest and in Ostrobothnia.

Imo some of the darkest people lived in Karelia.

[nvideoe]

Seriously? Swedes are significantly darker in hair color than Finns and also a little bit darker in eye color.

2010 Swedish Olympic Hockey Team (excluding non-ethnics):

Swedish Hockey Team.jpg

2010 Finnish Olympic Hockey Team (excluding non-ethnics):

Finnish Hockey Team.jpg

11 out of 22 Finns have blond hair vs. only 5 out of 20 Swedes.
20 out of 22 Finns have light eyes vs. 18 out of 20 Swedes.

Maps:

haircolormap.jpgeyecolormap.jpg

EDIT: Exclude Matthias Weinhandl from Swedish list (one left from bottom right). He's of German descent.

There are 2 pics of Niko Kapanen on that collage of Finns. And one Antti Miettinen missing.

[Frannypaync]

Everytime i come along those average morphs by country i noticed immediately how darker the finnish morph is compared to swedish, danish and dutch morph,(havent seen much norwegian morphs to be honest) and it's no lighter than german morph actually, why do finns always have the stereotype that they are the blondest people in the world.. i've never understood it anyways...

The stereotype is based on studies. Many face morphs are based on just a few images and the sample may be biased if not randomly selected. But which face morphs are YOU referring to? I could find these ones:

http://dienekes.110mb.com/pictures/c...femaleathlete/
Here the Finnish femal athelte morph seems to have the lightest hair, IMO.
http://anthroeurope.blogspot.com/sea...0%3A%20Karelia Here the Eastern Finnish male is lighter than the Swede but the female is somewhat darker. Northern Karelians are somewhat darker than Southern and Western Finns.
Here are Satlan's morphs on this forum:
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sho...t=14390&page=3 I really couldn't see a darker hair color in the Finnish morphs there either.

So can you give a link to the morphs you're referring to?

If i base my experience on real life .. scandinavians, specially the danish are actually lighter than finns on average.. there is no way finns would come out as being lighter.. many finns have pretty dark hair(naturally) which is almost completly absent in some parts of scandinavia (mainland denmark comes to mind). This isn't true. Are you confusing Saamis with Finns? IMO, many Swedes have very dark hair which is more often absent in ethnic Finns.

[Fhgzmftq]

why do finns always have the stereotype that they are the blondest people in the world..

The stereotype is that the Swedes are the blondest people in the world, the reality is that the Finns are the blondest people in the world.

That doesn't mean that the Swedes aren't blond. For instance, both the Estonians and the Swedes share 2nd place for being the blondest people in the world, after the Finns.

[jimmy28]

11 out of 22 Finns have blond hair vs. only 5 out of 20 Swedes.
20 out of 22 Finns have light eyes vs. 18 out of 20 Swedes.

There's a fine line between "dark blonde" and "light brown" that you seem to ignore, you also use different photos (with different light and background) for them all, which makes f.e. Magnus Johansson look more dark haired than he actually is.

EDIT: Exclude Matthias Weinhandl from Swedish list (one left from bottom right). He's of German descent. Most Swedes have part German ancestry, and also part Finnish ancestry. Weinhandl is considered Swedish because he was born to Swedish parents.

[Kitdowstyhodo]

There's a fine line between "dark blonde" and "light brown" that you seem to ignore, you also use different photos (with different light and background) for them all, which makes f.e. Magnus Johansson look more dark haired than he actually is.



Most Swedes have part German ancestry, and also part Finnish ancestry. Weinhandl is considered Swedish because he was born to Swedish parents.

Light brown is classified in the light hair spectrum since it has blond strains.

Both lighter and darker types - skin tone, eye and hair colour - are commonly encountered everywhere in Europe, north to south. The only consistency is that northerners are lighter on average than southerners and western and south-western Europeans are mainly in the medium pigmentation range, falling between northern peoples and East Med / Balkan populations.

[Foucceedo]

In Sweden, light brown hair is usually categorized as brown. Sometimes even "dark". I have never ever been called "blond" (my hair is light brown).

[heennaRaf]

In Sweden, light brown hair is usually categorized as brown. Sometimes even "dark". I have never ever been called "blond" (my hair is light brown).

That's the local perspective and understandable.

Worldwide, light brown falls in the "light hair" category. Not all light hair is blond and a person with light brown hair certainly exhibits blondism but would normally not be considered blond in the strict sense.

[VDAu5p33]

That's the local perspective and understandable.

Worldwide, light brown falls in the "light hair" category. Not all light hair is blond and a person with light brown hair certainly exhibits blondism but would normally not be considered blond in the strict sense.

That's true. I was only pointing out that Northern and Southern Europeans have different perspective of what is "light". Scandinavians generally don't consider light brown hair as light, while Spaniards usually do.

[plaiskegizils]

That's true. I was only pointing out that Northern and Southern Europeans have different perspective of what is "light". Scandinavians generally don't consider light brown hair as light, while Spaniards usually do.

Light brown is also considered light in my neck of the woods, Cornwall. Generally, the more true blonds a country has the less likely locals will consider light brown as "light hair." However, the global understanding is that light brown is part of the light hair category.

[horaAppagob]

There are 2 pics of Niko Kapanen on that collage of Finns. And one Antti Miettinen missing.

That phenotype is practically non-existing in my home area of Ostrobothnia.

[altosburg]

Lol I bet the darker Finns are Finland-Swedes...



I'm fairly sure Finns are lighter than Icelanders and Norwegians on average.

[Garry Hovard]

The stereotype is that the Swedes are the blondest people in the world, the reality is that the Finns are the blondest people in the world.

That doesn't mean that the Swedes aren't blond. For instance, both the Estonians and the Swedes share 2nd place for being the blondest people in the world, after the Finns.

It doesnt make any sense to me i have been to estonia, and have been to denmark and known many people in facebook aswell and even keep contact with a few of them time to time.. most estonian women i come across are definitely not blondes, they are just some light shade of brown or a very dark blond color, no comparision with some places of denmark and friesland, im not talking about stereotypes but about what i have seen with my own eyes..

Many people claim danes to be darkerst scandos.. when in reality parts of central/western norway and perhaps sweden(not sure?) might have higher frequencies of "dark" people.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/abiola/3800954814/

as example

and the photographer comments:

"What I found most surprising about Copenhagen was just how often I ran across people with this kind of light blondness (notice that even her eyebrows are blonde). This look is actually noticeably less common in Stockholm, at least going by my experience."

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Lol I bet the darker Finns are Finland-Swedes...



I'm fairly sure Finns are lighter than Icelanders and Norwegians on average.

Icelanders i Believe.. but norwegians i wouldnt be that sure..at least not east-norway.

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Light brown is classified in the light hair spectrum since it has blond strains.

Both lighter and darker types - skin tone, eye and hair colour - are commonly encountered everywhere in Europe, north to south. The only consistency is that northerners are lighter on average than southerners and western and south-western Europeans are mainly in the medium pigmentation range, falling between northern peoples and East Med / Balkan populations.

South-west arent any ligther than balkan my friend... i doubt there are more light people in portugal than there are in serbia.. let alone croatia.

[Suvaxal]

Icelanders i Believe.. but norwegians i wouldnt be that sure..at least not east-norway.

Why... because we got a lot of Forest Finns?

[Ceriopal]

It doesnt make any sense to me i have been to estonia, and have been to denmark and known many people in facebook aswell and even keep contact with a few of them time to time.. most estonian women i come across are definitely not blondes, they are just some light shade of brown or a very dark blond color, no comparision with some places of denmark and friesland, im not talking about stereotypes but about what i have seen with my own eyes..

Many people claim danes to be darkerst scandos.. when in reality parts of central/western norway and perhaps sweden(not sure?) might have higher frequencies of "dark" people.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/abiola/3800954814/

as example

and the photographer comments:

"What I found most surprising about Copenhagen was just how often I ran across people with this kind of light blondness (notice that even her eyebrows are blonde). This look is actually noticeably less common in Stockholm, at least going by my experience."[COLOR="Silver"]
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its common here in children, but not in adults as usually hair gets darker the older you get...so its not a good representative for haircolour anywhere..even lots of Arabs etc have blond hair as children, but most loose it as they get older..

[chzvacmyye]

its common here in children, but not in adults as usually hair gets darker the older you get...so its not a good representative for haircolour anywhere..even lots of Arabs etc have blond hair as children, but most loose it as they get older..

well im sure the photographer took in consideration age to base his comment..
And the picture isnt a children but rather a teenager. He/she is talking about a kind of blondism completly absent in arabs or even south europeans.. And clearly mentions that this kind of blondism is consideraly more common in copenhagen than it is stockholm.. at least going by him/her experience.