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Old 02-07-2011, 08:50 PM   #1
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The results of UFC 126 this Saturday confirm my belief that Anderson Silva of Brazil and Jon Jones of the USA are the two most dominant MMA fighters today. If I had to pick a third it would be Jose Aldo of Brazil. These guys are just so much more intelligent and so much more physically gifted that they make their professional opponents look like amateurs in the cage. I like George St Pierre and Fedor as well but they dont quite destroy their opponents like these three do. Here are the fights I would like to see:

1. Jose Aldo moves up to Lightweight and fights BJ Penn

2. Jon Jones, after defeating Shogun, moves up to Heavyweight and fights Fedor

3. Anderson Silva moves up to Light Heavyweight and fights Jon Jones.
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:10 PM   #2
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Pictures of these three greatest pound for pound MMA fighters, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Jose Aldo:
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:25 PM   #3
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Silva 3/4 Afro, 1/4 Mestizo

Jose 1/2 Afro, 30% Euro, 20% Amerind
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:33 PM   #4
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Silva is very talented, but he benefits from fighting in one of the weaker weight classes in the UFC, and on top of that, he's too big to be 185 and should be fighting at 205 with the likes of Shogun, Rampage, Jones, Machida, etc, he did go up and beat Forrest Griffin (Not a bad fighter) and James Irvin (Crappy fighter), but he needs to beat elite talent.

If Jones beats Shogun, I'm convinced that Silva will stand no chance in hell, Silva usually relies on his striking and always has size/reach advantage on his opponents, at the same time he struggles with wrestlers (Lucky for him he has a solid ground game), with Jones he would not have the reach/size advantage and he would be up against a big wrestler, that's a nightmare matchup Silva wouldn't wanna touch.
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:40 PM   #5
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im sorry but george st pierre tops them all... they need to put him against silva right now that would be the fight of the century
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:43 PM   #6
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im sorry but george st pierre tops them all... they need to put him against silva right now that would be the fight of the century
GSP is my favorite fighter and I don't want to see him fight Silva because he would lose, the size difference between the two is big, and when you usually put the best fighters in their weight classes together, the bigger guy usually wins (Just like how GSP destroyed Penn).
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:45 PM   #7
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GSP is my favorite fighter and I don't want to see him fight Silva because he would lose, the size difference between the two is big, and when you usually put the best fighters in their weight classes together, the bigger guy usually wins (Just like how GSP destroyed Penn).
yea true but i think gsp should add on some pounds to go into the middleweight division and challenge sliva... gsp is only 165 but he looks more massive than that.. but they are both very technically skilled so it would definately be an interesting fight
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:48 PM   #8
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Wait until after this Saturday and we can talk. Antonio Silva vs Fedor Emelianenko...

im sorry but george st pierre tops them all... they need to put him against silva right now that would be the fight of the century
GSP might top them all p4p, but consider that Jones is 15 cm taller and 15 kg heavier.
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:55 PM   #9
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yea true but i think gsp should add on some pounds to go into the middleweight division and challenge sliva... gsp is only 165 but he looks more massive than that.. but they are both very technically skilled so it would definately be an interesting fight
GSP walks and fights at 190 pounds now (170 at the weigh ins), he never was 165 and was always considered one of the bigger welterweights.

Silva walks around at 220-230 and fights at 205-210, like I said, big difference.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:00 PM   #10
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Silva is very talented, but he benefits from fighting in one of the weaker weight classes in the UFC, and on top of that, he's too big to be 185 and should be fighting at 205 with the likes of Shogun, Rampage, Jones, Machida, etc, he did go up and beat Forrest Griffin (Not a bad fighter) and James Irvin (Crappy fighter), but he needs to beat elite talent.
He also beat Dan Henderson who is considered elite talent in the 205lb division. He didn't just beat all three of these light heavyweights he humiliated them: knocking out two of them in the first round and submitting Henderson, an elite wrestler, in the 2nd round. That's dominance in two weight classes. Is there anyone else in MMA who has such a record?

If Jones beats Shogun, I'm convinced that Silva will stand no chance in hell, Silva usually relies on his striking and always has size/reach advantage on his opponents, He didn't have that size advantage when he knocked out or submitted all three of his light heavyweight opponents in the UFC did he? A fight between Jones and Silva would be epic. Jones would have the reach, size, youth and wrestling advantage while Silva would have the advantage in experience, boxing, kicking, kneeing and brazilian jiu jitsu. The outcome is not a foregone conclusion by any means.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:07 PM   #11
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Anderson Silva already said he's not changing class I believe, though it would be great to see him move up to light heavyweight.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:07 PM   #12
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GSP walks and fights at 190 pounds now (170 at the weigh ins), he never was 165 and was always considered one of the bigger welterweights.

Silva walks around at 220-230 and fights at 205-210, like I said, big difference.
the last fight i saw between him and koscheck thats what i remember his weight as but i wouldnt be suprised if he is 190 because he is pretty big in size i mean look at his legs
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:10 PM   #13
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He also beat Dan Henderson who is considered elite talent in the 205lb division. He didn't just beat all three of these light heavyweights he humiliated them: knocking out two of them in the first round and submitting Henderson, an elite wrestler, in the 2nd round. That's dominance in two weight classes. Is there anyone else in MMA who has such a record?
He beat Dan Henderson at 185, not 205, not to mention that Dan Henderson is not what he used to be (Pride days), Jake Shields beat him in Strikeforce not too long ago before coming to the UFC, now we have a title fight coming up between GSP and Jake Shields in April, should be interesting.

He didn't have that size advantage when he knocked out or submitted all three of his light heavyweight opponents in the UFC did he? A fight between Jones and Silva would be epic. Jones would have the reach, size, youth and wrestling advantage while Silva would have the advantage in experience, boxing, kicking, kneeing and brazilian jiu jitsu. The outcome is not a foregone conclusion by any means. Well, James Irvin is a pretty crappy fighter so I would not count him (Him and Silva are about the same size), Forrest and Silva are also about the same size but Forrest is an inch taller which is nothing, Henderson on the other hand is smaller than Silva.

The other thing is he did not destroy Henderson, he was actually struggling and had Henderson not gotten tired, he would've had a good chance, here you go:

http://www.troodi.com/media/5287/Sil...derson_UFC_82/

Did you not see Andersson's fight against Sonnen, he eventually ended up submitting him in the 5th round (Because Sonnen sucked at grappling), but had that fight been a decision, Andersson would have lost the title because he lost almost every single round.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:31 PM   #14
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He beat Dan Henderson at 185, not 205
Oh, OK.

Anyway, Henderson couldn't do much when he was in Silva's guard. Silva's face was unmarked at the end of the fight, While Henderson the elite wrestler was croaking while being rear naked choked into submission by Silva.


Did you not see Andersson's fight against Sonnen, he eventually ended up submitting him in the 5th round (Because Sonnen sucked at grappling), but had that fight been a decision, Andersson would have lost the title because he lost almost every single round. I knew someone would bring that up. What those who keep harping about how Sonnen "beat up" Silva for 5 rounds overlook is that:

1. Silva looked unmarked at the end of the fight while Sonnen was the one who looked beat up.

2. Silva was fighting with a bruised rib against doctor's orders

3. Sonnen was on illegal steroids

4. Most importantly: Sonnen had gotten to Silva's head with his trash talking about brazilian jiu jitsu. Stupidly Silva resolved to defend the honor of his club, trainers, Big Nog etc by defeating Sonnen using precisely that technique. Stubbornly forsaking his most lethal weapons: his fists and his knees. If Sonnen ever gets a rematch with Silva he is going to get badly hurt.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:43 PM   #15
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I knew someone would bring that up. What those who keep harping about how Sonnen "beat up" Silva for 5 rounds overlook is that:

1. Silva looked unmarked at the end of the fight while Sonnen was the one who looked beat up.

2. Silva was fighting with a bruised rib against doctor's orders

3. Sonnen was on illegal steroids

4. Most importantly: Sonnen had gotten to Silva's head with his trash talking about brazilian jiu jitsu. Stupidly Silva resolved to defend the honor of his club, trainers, Big Nog etc by defeating Sonnen using precisely that technique. Stubbornly forsaking his most lethal weapons: his fists and his knees. If Sonnen ever gets a rematch with Silva he is going to get badly hurt.
The whole cracked rib story does not make sense imo, I don't buy it, and whether he had a mark on his face or not it does not matter, if that fight would have went to the judges the decision would have been very easy in Sonnen's favor.

As far as the steroid issue, stupid of Sonnen to do that indeed, but you gotta keep in mind that sometimes these athletes use products that are not illegal, then all of the sudden they become illegal (I think this was the case with Sonnen).
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:47 PM   #16
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yea true but i think gsp should add on some pounds to go into the middleweight division and challenge sliva... gsp is only 165 but he looks more massive than that.. but they are both very technically skilled so it would definately be an interesting fight
GSP is among my top favorites too, but I agree with birko that the trend is for the naturally bigger guy to win.
I admire GSP's disciplined and highly detailed approach to training, I knew of him from the time he was sponsored by Biotest (bodybuilding supplement company).
Some may question what the hell does 'bodybuilding' have to do with MMA, and I'd answer they're probably the best go to guys for properly moving up in weight as well as strength, power and conditioning. Many elite fighters have different specialized coaches.

What do you think of Machida and his unorthodox fighting style?
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:21 PM   #17
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I'm just watching Silva highlights and that precision is fucking unbelievable, every punch. He's got some amazing comebacks too.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:27 AM   #18
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The results of UFC 126 this Saturday confirm my belief that Anderson Silva of Brazil and Jon Jones of the USA are the two most dominant MMA fighters today. If I had to pick a third it would be Jose Aldo of Brazil. These guys are just so much more intelligent and so much more physically gifted that they make their professional opponents look like amateurs in the cage. I like George St Pierre and Fedor as well but they dont quite destroy their opponents like these three do. Here are the fights I would like to see:

1. Jose Aldo moves up to Lightweight and fights BJ Penn

2. Jon Jones, after defeating Shogun, moves up to Heavyweight and fights Fedor

3. Anderson Silva moves up to Light Heavyweight and fights Jon Jones.
Silva definitely earns his reputation. He is a brilliant, brilliant fighter. He throws punches/kicks and knows exactly where they're going ahead of time. I've also watched Silva predict patterns in his opponents, carefully & patiently waiting for his opportunity to strike. He has "the gift" of foresight.

I am looking forward to a potential GSP v Silva fight…!!!
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:18 PM   #19
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The results of UFC 126 this Saturday confirm my belief that Anderson Silva of Brazil and Jon Jones of the USA are the two most dominant MMA fighters today.
That was a month and a half ago. Last night Jon Jones further confirmed my estimation of him by completely demolishing the #1 ranked Light Heavyweight MMA fighter Shogun aka Mauricio Rua and taking his Championship Belt. He is now the youngest Champion in UFC history:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Bon...-UFC-128-30943

Consider the star born.

Jon Jones handed Mauricio “Shogun” Rua a savage beating in the UFC 128 headliner, as he captured the light heavyweight championship in a third-round technical knockout on Saturday at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. Beaten almost beyond recognition, the great Rua finally wilted 2:37 into round three.

“It feels so good,” said Jones, who, at 23, became the youngest UFC champion in history.

Shogun never had a chance. Jones secured his first takedown inside the first 30 seconds and patiently brutalized the Brazilian with punches and elbows. Rua stood near the cage, ate a knee to the body, a shin to the face and punches to the head. He wobbled forward and was never the same. Jones landed one of his patented spinning back elbows to open round two, caught an attempted leg kick and drove Rua to the ground, where elbows and punches to the head and body greeted the battered and broken champion. So complete was Jones’ dominance that he attempted a kneebar on the Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt near the end of the period.

At the start of round three, it was clear Shogun had little left in the tank. He swooped in for a leg lock, only to wind up on his back. There, he was at the mercy of the challenger. Shogun returned to a standing position, as Jones backed him into the cage and cracked him with a mean left hook to the body that put him down for good. With that, Jones’ ascent was complete.
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:46 AM   #20
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Jon Jones subdued a robber in Paterson, New Jersey an hour before TKOing Shogun Rua. What an ultimate badass!
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