[Gaxiciverfere]

why should jews have a province or State ???
I'm berber and I live in Spain and I could live wherever I want
as long as I am not a criminal and respect others
I don't need a berber or muslim State to live in
If Jews have they own country Gypsyes should have one too
and atheist their own country too

Why? The same reason why we have so many Arab states.

[Blelidupgerie]

I feel like most jews identify more with Europe and USA

Then your feelings mislead you.

and most of them consider themselves "white" as europeans and white Americans White as levantine people should be (Lebanese are no different).

than middle eastern and they hate to be compared with other middle easterns even with "arab" christians,they see other middle easterns as inferior compared to white europeans and americans and they are proud of how they westernized that part of the middle east I must've missed something here... True Jews (those who are aware of what being Yehudi means) in no case will correspond to your statement.
On the other hand, I do know Jews who think this, yet these are all ignorants and know very little if not nothing about what being a Jew means.

Don't you think that most jews are selfhating middle easterns? Well, til now; I haven't proved to apply to your Jewish self-hatred criterias... So no

[TZids16I]

why should jews have a province or State ???

To which I answer.... Why shouldn't we have one?

[Zaxsdcxs]

To which I answer.... Why shouldn't we have one?

Because there aren't habitable inhabited lands today jews can discover and create their own country

[Rapiddude]

First of all, it's their ancestral homeland which they identify with and it's their right.

That's the stateless geneticforum logic. Nobody has any rights over a country some forefather left 1500 years ago.

Second of all, it's evolution, parts of Israeli culture is are actually oriental middle eastern while other parts are western, that's like saying why should the Arabs in Dubai build skyscrapers similar to mega American cities? Why not just build giant tents instead

Everyone can be as modern/western as he wants but Israel never cared about communicating with its surrounding and the people that lived there when they came. They should be thrown out of UEFA and other European organisations cause now they're in Asia and it was their decision.

[Alexeric]

Because there aren't habitable inhabited lands today jews can discover and create their own country

What's that supposed to mean, ya 5alil.

If you meant that we have to go elsewhere, you can be sure the oblast soviets gave us is more a punishment than a present.

[myspacecoo]

Semitic Duwa weren't you a mexican mestizo?

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What's that supposed to mean, ya 5alil.

They are doing what their ancestors did to the Canaaneans thousands of years ago
killing people and stealing lands...

[rassedgesse]

That's the stateless geneticforum logic. Nobody has any rights over a country some forefather left 1500 years ago.

Tough luck, the Arabs invaded other people 1400 years ago and took lands that belonged to previous civilizations, the Jews just got their piece back and I say, good for them.

Everyone can be as modern/western as he wants but Israel never cared about communicating with its surrounding and the people that lived there when they came. They should be thrown out of UEFA and other European organisations cause now they're in Asia and it was their decision. You don't understand, the other side does not want to communicate with Israel, instead, they want to drive the Jews to the sea, as far as the UEFA goes, I'm not too familiar with their rules and what not so it does not concern the topic.

[GuitarLoverBe]

Tough luck, the Arabs invaded other people 1400 years ago and took lands that belonged to previous civilizations, the Jews just got their piece back and I say, good for them.



You don't understand, the other side does not want to communicate with Israel, instead, they want to drive the Jews to the sea, as far as the UEFA goes, I'm not too familiar with their rules and what not so it does not concern the topic.

Arabs conquered North Africa,the Indian Subcontinent,Indonesia,Spain but they didn't killed or replaced the original population that's why you are alive,they could have killed or obligated to convert all middle eastern and North african christians and jews but they didn't
arabs didn't even rape your women that's why assyrians haven't arab DNA Native soth americans can't say the same

[jgztw2es]

Semitic Duwa weren't you a mexican mestizo?[COLOR="Silver"]

J1c3d Mexican mestizo... Sounds right to me

They are doing what their ancestors did to the Canaaneans thousands of years ago
killing people and stealing lands... I don't like this kind of analogy tbh...
I can point out the flaws: Were Kena3anim supported by Persians (7amas being iran's pet via syria and the i5wan...)? Kena3anim were powerful and probably were incorporated b3am Isra2El after Yihoshua3's conquest of the land (thus leading several tribal chieftains to rule over former Kena3ani districts divised between Ephraim, Yehudah, Binyamin, Dan, Gad, Ašer, etc...)
So the ethnic cleansing b'TaNa5 is most likely to be a fabulation... That is not to say that Filastiniyin are under Biblical oppression either (no systematic extermination directed towards them I'm afraid [sad for your argument, I know])...

[Theorsell]

Arabs conquered North Africa but they didn't killed or replaced the original population that what you are alive,they could have killed or obligated to convert all christians and jews but they didn't

You're right, they just absorbed and converted over 95% of the population and left a very small vulnerable minority, I'm pretty sure that makes them look better right

The way I see it, the Arabs need to accept Israel and move on, there's more than enough land for the Palestinians to move on and live in, after all, they talk about Arab brotherhood so much, why not create a Palestine out of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, or whatever.

[exeftWabreava]

Arabs conquered North Africa,the Indian Subcontinent,Indonesia,Spain but they didn't killed or replaced the original population that's why you are alive,they could have killed or obligated to convert all middle eastern and North african christians and jews but they didn't

LOL^ read history please.

[casinobonusfrees]

You're right, they just absorbed and converted over 95% of the population and left a very small vulnerable minority, I'm pretty sure that makes them look better right

The way I see it, the Arabs need to accept Israel and move on, there's more than enough land for the Palestinians to move on and live in, after all, they talk about Arab brotherhood so much, why not create a Palestine out of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, or whatever.

Because Palestine is their land
Jews should go back to Europe,America,North Africa,Yemen,Iraq or Live peacefully with the Palestinians with equal rights and obligations...

[freddyujnf]

You don't understand, the other side does not want to communicate with Israel, instead, they want to drive the Jews to the sea, as far as the UEFA goes, I'm not too familiar with their rules and what not so it does not concern the topic.

In the beginning there weren't much tensions but as millions came and took away the land of the original inhabitants the Zionists couldn't expect any good will.
UEFA point is relevant as Israelis have decided themselves to move to the Middle East and out of Europe so there's no point in letting them into European organisations. If Israel wants to maintain they have to start to communicate with their neighbors in another way than bombarding their towns or they will cease to exist(especially with the new developments in the ME).

[Keyblctt]

Because Palestine is their land
Jews should go back to Europe,America,North Africa,Yemen,Iraq or Live peacefully with the Palestinians with equal rights and obligations...

Get over it and move on, Arabs invaded a huge amount of land and now they cry over a tiny part? Tough luck.

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In the beginning there weren't much tensions but as millions came and took away the land of the original inhabitants the Zionists couldn't expect any good will.
UEFA point is relevant as Israelis have decided themselves to move to the Middle East and out of Europe so there's no point in letting them into European organisations. If Israel wants to maintain they have to start to communicate with their neighbors in another way than bombarding their towns or they will cease to exist(especially with the new developments in the ME).

What part of "The other side does not want to communicate" do you not get?

[G778G9P0]

In the beginning there weren't much tensions but as millions came and took away the land of the original inhabitants the Zionists couldn't expect any good will.
UEFA point is relevant as Israelis have decided themselves to move to the Middle East and out of Europe so there's no point in letting them into European organisations. If Israel wants to maintain they have to start to communicate with their neighbors in another way than bombarding their towns or they will cease to exist(especially with the new developments in the ME).

You read a lot of sci-fi don't you?

[Coollabioto]

Because Palestine is their land
Jews should go back to Europe,America,North Africa,Yemen,Iraq or Live peacefully with the Palestinians with equal rights and obligations...

You obviously know nothing about the past of the people you're talking about :

[inhitoemits]

You obviously know nothing about the past of the people you're talking about :

Jewish propaganda...

[Abraham]

Jewish propaganda...

[HottBrorb]

Jewish propaganda...

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