[Seeseeskeva]

Why is it that Dominicans can only be Black while Mexicans can be Metizso when Dominicans are of mixed raced too? I don't understand this. The one drop rule seems to only apply to people who are mostly of Black ancestry, but someone who is mostly Amerindian with little to no European ancestry in Mexico can be Metizso. It's just something I've noticed. Also, often you'll hear Dominican Republic is a Black country, but you'll never hear Mexico is an Amerindian country. I have seen more Dominicans that visually look more mixed than Mexicans I often interact and see to be honest, but no one would call them an Amerindian Latino, but would call a Dominican a Black Latino.

[occurrini]

This "issue" is only relevant on youtube

[MatueHarton]

This "issue" is only relevant on youtube

I've seen this "issue" in other sites not only in youtube. What the OP says is many times true and I think is because Americans are more use to seeing White/Black mix people than White/Amerind mix. Also, they use the one drop rule more with Blacks then any other race.

BTW, Are you Dominican Bellame?

[GlictStiply]

It also depends on the Dominican, some Dominicans be mostly euro while some may be mostly African. To Dominicans any non-carribean islanders are for the most part considered Indios, with the exception of Argentineans and Chileans. When my cousin in D.R met ecuadorians she said "parecen aborigenes" (they look native). In the U.S setting Dominicans tend to stereotype all mexicans and south-central americans to be mestizos, and when they do see a black or black-mixed person from these countries they are first assumed to be Dominican until they hear their accent. Where i live Domincians use the somewhat derrogatory term "chucha" to refer to all south-central americans, because they are seen as uniformly indegenous due to the migration pattern of mostly indegenous people into the east coast from these parts of the world.

[anfuckinggs]

I've seen this "issue" in other sites not only in youtube. What the OP says is many times true and I think is because Americans are more use to seeing White/Black mix people than White/Amerind mix. Also, they use the one drop rule more with Blacks then any other race.

BTW, Are you Dominican Bellame?

what I mean is this issue doesn't really exist in real life, mexicans are just seen as mexicans and dominicans are just seen as dominicans.

Although I do agree that on those types of forums, it's very common for people to consider mexicans who look like george lopez to be "mestizos" and dominicans who look like A-Rod to be "black". Another common pattern is that they will respect the mixed-raceness of puerto rico and cuba, while making the dr seem like the odd "black" country with has more similarities with Haiti than with the other two hispanic islands

[rionetrozasa]

Because in the modern-day context, "Black" is equated with anybody on the mulatto spectrum (thanks to America's influence worldwide), whereas Native American is still for some reason only equated with North American natives on reservations, or in smaller circles, only with "pure" natives in Latin America who speak native languages.

It's not any sort of conspiracy against Dominicans to deny them their mulatto status. People who see this or this think "Black," even though they're majority Caucasian genetically, hence the association with D.R. and Black. They're not saying Dominicans look like this.

[ZZtop]

Well in NYC someone could look like will smith and be considered "spanish" if their hair is wavy or straight, so someone who looks like you or lemba would be seen as hispanic in NYC, at least in the eyes of most hispanics and even aframs.

[Rjvpicux]

Well in NYC someone could look like will smith and be considered "spanish" if their hair is wavy or straight, so someone who looks like you or lemba would be seen as hispanic in NYC, at least in the eyes of most hispanics and aframs

Ehh, NYC Hispanics would prolly guess me as Dominican or Rican, but I'm pretty sure that nation-wide Aframs see me as half-white Afram. I don't have that Med/"Spanish" look to me, just heavily mixed with white.

[shinesw]

Well, I have a trinidadian friend who's half indian and half black, and despite the fact she is dark skinned, has typical "black" facial features, she says that it's very common for people to think she's dominican or hispanic because of her hair texture. Her specific look is also very atypical for a caribbean latino (in an "anthropological" sense)

[Mowselelew]

Because Dominican diversity is often overlooked by ignorants.

[WaydayNef]

these arguments exist pretty much on places like youtube and topix... those two websites are the worst when it comes to "dominicans are black, and deny african ancestry blah blah" because they have a very black and white view but atleast most people here have a more broader perspective and know that there is alot of phenotypical diversity in places like DR and PR

[nonDosearrany]

No I'm not Dominican. I'm African American, though many think I'm Afro-Latina.

I have just noticed this trend and the Dominicans I know get frustrated because they don't seem themselves as just Black

[virtuah]

In the north east, Dominicans of my phenotype would be considered two things, Dominican or Puerto Rican, and a hispanic all the time. Now my same phenotype, or Arod's, may be considered black in middle america, since they have less exposure to Dominicans. It doesn't take much to be considered black by most middle Americans, im sure most Dominicans here wouldn't pass as white over in the heart of America.

[M1iFiNmC]

Yeah, your look in particular would definitely be seen as biracial Afram outside the East Coast, you sorta have that Northern Euro+Afro look.

Just curious, would J Cole would get hispanic all the time on the East Coast if he wasnt famous?

[fount_pirat]

Just curious, would J Cole would get hispanic all the time on the East Coast if he wasnt famous?

Probably.

[T5qYkHWQ]

In real life, most aframs don't really try to associate afro-latinos with them. Someone who looks straight up congolese could tell an afram or anyone in nyc in general he's hispanic, and they will automatically associate them with any other regular hispanics and won't question their identity, same goes for white-looking hispanics.

[Gymngatagaica]

im just curious when they see a white or white looking hispanic in NYC or the east coast, where do people usually assume where they come from?

[somasideff]

im just curious when they see a white or white looking hispanic in NYC or the east coast, where do people usually assume where they come from?

Puerto Rico, the darker hispanics get Dominicans.

The more native gets Mexican.

This is in NYC.

[DebtDetox]

Puerto Rico, the darker hispanics get Dominicans.

The more native gets Mexican.

This is in NYC.

i was just curious because usually in miami where there are many white looking hispanics they are usually assumed to be cuban at first, even though they could be from anywhere else and its also like that in calfornia and texas where white hispanics are usually mexicans

[dolaBeetCeage]

Yeah, your look in particular would definitely be seen as biracial Afram outside the East Coast, you sorta have that Northern Euro+Afro look.

Just curious, would J Cole would get hispanic all the time on the East Coast if he wasnt famous?

he could be taken for both, depends on the person. He has an ambigious look and a good amount of latinos and aframs would guess him as hispanic, but I could definitely see a good amount of people thinking he's afram since has the basic layman criteria for a black person (dark skin and coarse hair), especially alot of whites, asians, middle easterns etc.

If he had visibly non-SSA hair, most people would guess him as hispanic.