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Old 10-16-2010, 10:43 AM   #1
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Default Why are Southern Europeans (mainly Italians and Spaniards) so racist?
I watched a clip a year ago called racism in Europe.



That is just soccer, I could care less, I mean sports drive people nuts and it is fairly common for people especially here in the US to throw Bananas and Peanuts at their black basketball and football players
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Well recently I visited Italy with my girlfriend, she looks like a White girl with Black hair but is really a Latina. I on the other hand am an Indian guy (India) type and we received stares by some people. One person pointed and me and shook his head after looking at her, I was slightly darker than her, not significantly but slightly.

Now I also noticed that on Stormfront they have a large number of Italians, Spaniards and Southern Europeans. They far outnumber the infamous WASPs and other Northern Europeans. I have friends that live there (my friends are American) and they say they are so amazed at how openly racist Spaniards and Italians are.

One of my professors is an Indian guy and the woman he is married to is a White German woman with Blonde hair and blue eyes. He said he was attacked and even ridiculed in Italy for being with her and everything like that.

I never hear of people in Northern Europe and Central Europe at this day and age going through that. Why are Southern Europeans (Italians and Spanish specifically) so racist?
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Old 10-18-2010, 05:47 PM   #2
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Why are Indians, Pakistanis and most of Africa so racist?
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Old 10-18-2010, 06:54 PM   #3
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Banana throwing is also seen in England and Eastern Europe...
Although it's not normal in any place, including Southern Europe.
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:11 PM   #4
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It also happened Germany. Nothing special it sometimes happens across Europe, it underclass hooliganism, unfortunately
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:17 PM   #5
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I watched a clip a year ago called racism in Europe.



That is just soccer, I could care less, I mean sports drive people nuts and it is fairly common for people especially here in the US to throw Bananas and Peanuts at their black basketball and football players
.

Well recently I visited Italy with my girlfriend, she looks like a White girl with Black hair but is really a Latina. I on the other hand am an Indian guy (India) type and we received stares by some people. One person pointed and me and shook his head after looking at her, I was slightly darker than her, not significantly but slightly.

Now I also noticed that on Stormfront they have a large number of Italians, Spaniards and Southern Europeans. They far outnumber the infamous WASPs and other Northern Europeans. I have friends that live there (my friends are American) and they say they are so amazed at how openly racist Spaniards and Italians are.

One of my professors is an Indian guy and the woman he is married to is a White German woman with Blonde hair and blue eyes. He said he was attacked and even ridiculed in Italy for being with her and everything like that.

I never hear of people in Northern Europe and Central Europe at this day and age going through that. Why are Southern Europeans (Italians and Spanish specifically) so racist?
Easy:

They have historically got less immigration. More importantly they are poorer and ignorant. A lot of the hardcore racist have a "white complex" for not looking Nordic..., but the latter is more on the internet, not in real everyday life.

I've never had this happen in Central Europe either...but I have heard stories of Italians from several people...when I was in Italy, years ago, I was with my family, no white folks with us, so I don't know, I don't remember much to be honest. I wonder would it would be like today if I went with my fiancee. We talked about going to Torino and Milano...
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:17 PM   #6
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Jews and sapien sapiens are the only genuine racists I think.
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:20 PM   #7
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Easy:

They have historically got less immigration. More importantly they are poorer and ignorant. A lot of the hardcore racist have a "white complex" for not looking Nordic..., but the latter is more on the internet, not in real everyday life.

I've never had this happen in Central Europe either...but I have heard stories of Italians from several people...when I was in Italy, years ago, I was with my family, no white folks with us, so I don't know, I don't remember much to be honest. I wonder would it would be like today if I went with my fiancee. We talked about going to Torino and Milano...
I don't think that's telling the whole story, because the diaspora is also quite racist.

As I've mentioned in the past, any girl who dates blacks is considered untouchable by most Italians in America. The phenomenon of Italian racism in this regard was touched on very well in A Bronx Tale.

Very few Italians are racist in the pan-European "white power" sense, but they harbor strong prejudices against blacks, Gypsies, gays, etc. I think it's more to do with ties between tradition and conservative thinking with Catholicism. Poland is also a bigoted country, for example.
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:22 PM   #8
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I don't think that's telling the whole story, because the diaspora is also quite racist.

As I've mentioned in the past, any girl who dates blacks is considered untouchable by most Italians in America. The phenomenon of Italian racism in this regard was touched on very well in A Bronx Tale.

Very few Italians are racist in the pan-European "white power" sense, but they harbor strong prejudices against blacks, Gypsies, gays, etc.
I watched the Bronx Tale many years ago...don't remember much, care to elaborate?
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:27 PM   #9
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Italian kid growing up in NY. Witnesses a murder, refuses to rat out the mobster who committed it. The mobster takes him under his wing. The story is one of duality.

The first part shows his being torn between his relationship with his father and his relationship with the mafia boss who his father hates.

Then the second part is his being torn between his blossoming romance with a black girl on one hand and his racist Italian friends who use violence and intimidation to keep blacks out of their neighborhood on the other.

In the end, his white friends try to kill blacks and get killed with their own weapons, and the mafia boss is murdered as well... so he's left with his family and the black girl. The moral of the story, at least from my interpretation, is that violence begets violence and that hatred solves nothing.
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:30 PM   #10
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I wonder would it would be like today if I went with my fiancee. We talked about going to Torino and Milano...
Forget those stories. A lot of people from other parts of the world live in both cities so we're quite used to it.
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:33 PM   #11
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The moral of the story, at least from my interpretation, is that violence begets violence and that hatred solves nothing.
It rather seems this: Italians are evil bigots. Typical of Hollywood.
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:40 PM   #12
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The moral of the story, at least from my interpretation, is that violence begets violence and that hatred solves nothing.
The moral sounds more like "Italians are evil bigots". So typical of Hollywood.
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:39 AM   #13
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I don't think that's telling the whole story, because the diaspora is also quite racist.
Just in the US because most of italian americans are from the south (not the most progressive or open minded people exactly) and well... also because growing up in the US can make anybody to have really serious racial/identity issues.

Most of the Italians that came to South America were from North/Central Italy and most of them didn't have problems to mix with natives/blacks/whatever. I know a lot of people with Italian surnames whose phenotypes go from Dinarid to Zamboid.

And Southern Europeans are not more racist than any other people, they are just less hypocrital than anglos/germanics.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:11 AM   #14
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Just in the US because most of italian americans are from the south (not the most progressive or open minded people exactly) and well... also because growing up in the US can make anybody to have really serious racial/identity issues.

Most of the Italians that came to South America were from North/Central Italy and most of them didn't have problems to mix with natives/blacks/whatever. I know a lot of people with Italian surnames whose phenotypes go from Dinarid to Zamboid.

And Southern Europeans are not more racist than any other people, they are just less hypocrital than anglos/germanics.
You talk as if Italian-Americans of southern extraction have never mixed with non-whites. Some have.
Many Italians who settled in Argentina or Brazil came from the South too.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:00 AM   #15
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Maybe because they have common sense? Because they don't want to racemix?
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:10 AM   #16
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Maybe because they have common sense? Because they don't want to racemix?
What does that have to do with commonsense?
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:12 AM   #17
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The moral sounds more like "Italians are evil bigots". So typical of Hollywood.
Chazz Palmintieri who wrote and starred in the film is a proud Sicilian-American, and Robert DeNiro who co-starred in and directed the film is also Italian-American.

This was people reflecting upon their own experiences as adolescents growing up in New York.

Just in the US because most of italian americans are from the south (not the most progressive or open minded people exactly) and well... also because growing up in the US can make anybody to have really serious racial/identity issues.

Most of the Italians that came to South America were from North/Central Italy and most of them didn't have problems to mix with natives/blacks/whatever. I know a lot of people with Italian surnames whose phenotypes go from Dinarid to Zamboid.

And Southern Europeans are not more racist than any other people, they are just less hypocrital than anglos/germanics.
You do realize that you only speak for Brazil there, right?

Argentina and Uruguay are the most Italian countries outside of Europe and they have virtually no blacks or even mulattoes.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:44 AM   #18
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What does that have to do with commonsense?
It depends on the type of racemixing really. I can sort of understand women who marry blacks. They do have some redeeming qualities after all. But this guy is... Indian. Not a pale high caste one at that.

Doesn't it then make sense that a white woman, who has high mate-value, would avoid a dark low-caste Indian?
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Old 10-19-2010, 04:01 AM   #19
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They do have some redeeming qualities after all...
lol...i want to hear this. mary, please elaborate
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Old 10-19-2010, 04:07 AM   #20
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Chazz Palmintieri who wrote and starred in the film is a proud Sicilian-American, and Robert DeNiro who co-starred in and directed the film is also Italian-American.

This was people reflecting upon their own experiences as adolescents growing up in New York.



You do realize that you only speak for Brazil there, right?

Argentina and Uruguay are the most Italian countries outside of Europe and they have virtually no blacks or even mulattoes.
What does Italian immigration has to do with Argentina and Uruguay having no Black people? Italians did not immigrate to Argentina or Uruguay because they did not have black people (on they would not have immigrated to brazil or the USA ...)

By the way, there are Blacks and Mulattoes in Uruguay as well.
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