[Pelefaifs]

Do you think there is a relation in the type of music you like with the your race? For example, rock and techno are more related to white people.

Personally, taste in music is a subjetive opinion. It has everything to do with the type of society you are immersed into, and the stereotypical perception people has of your race. A bandwagon type of attitude develops in some people, as a mechanism to try and fit in.

This has more to do with younger folks, that tend to give in more easily to the pressure from their peers.

[reachmanxx]

Do you think there is a relation in the type of music you like with the your race? For example, rock and techno are more related to white people.

Black people created Rock and it was stolen by Elvis Presley

[jojocomok]

They also create techno, or at least the first music known as techno.

Music is more than just rhythm based noise anyway. I like that kind of noise, but it's not all music there is.

Elvis wasn’t really musically important in any meaningful way. Just a stupid gospel singer, that's what he was. He did sing some rock and roll, and he did gyrate his hips, and women swooned over him, but he was not really an important inventor in music, not at all.

[Rexaviennatutr]

Black people created Rock and it was stolen by Elvis Presley

Im sure that is a recurring topic among afrocentrists, but that's not what this thread is about.

[esconsise]

Im sure that is a recurring topic among afrocentrists, but that's not what this thread is about.

Your agenda was to go back to 19th century and sell theories that people are born with musical preferences in their DNA, as if DNA was able to distinguish what is Samba or what is Classical Music or what is Rock or what is Salsa.

Wake up to reality and learn that we are in the 21st century and open a more modern and intelligent thread next time

[Nurse_sero]

My agenda? What the fuck are you talking about, you paranoical fuck: you are seeing a conspiracy theory around every corner.

...

Now, where were we?

[Ingeborga]

As far as I know Rap isn't music but just rubbish none-sense . And yes it's true Rock is inspired by blues which was from African origins, rock became a reality during the cultural revolution and racial conflicts in the US as well. Rock was created separably from blues because it was more of appealing to the white populace so you can call rock, a "white peoples music" if you want.

And no this is not afro-centrist BS, it's history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music.

[Wckcvhsg]

As far as I know Rap isn't music but just rubbish none-sense . And yes it's true Rock is inspired by blues which was from African origins, rock became a reality during the cultural revolution and racial conflicts in the US as well. Rock was created separably from blues because it was more of appealing to the white populace so you can call rock, a "white peoples music" if you want.

I don't think you can really call music rubbish nonsense.

Music is just noise, in essence. Some noise sorted over compositions and arrangement creating secondary things which trip our mind into oblivion.

There are certain stereotypes regarding music, but I think most countries (at least in the west) have similar subcultures with certain variations more dependant in social class rather than race.

Here for example, Cumbias Villeras are mostly related to Villa mestizos by people. Rock, however, is seen as more lower class white music, despite not all who listen to Cumbias are low class Mestizos and not all those who listen to rock are low class whites.

It's often said "Rap" is black music but is it really? I remember seeing stats and polls revealing that 60% of people who consumed rap in the United States were white.

Electronic music is associated mostly with Northern European whites but there are many good Israeli electronic artist and I know some good ones done by Mestizos like Hocico.

[enteltcheft]

I don't think you can really call music rubbish nonsense.

Music is just noise, in essence. Some noise sorted over compositions and arrangement creating secondary things which trip our mind into oblivion.

There are certain stereotypes regarding music, but I think most countries (at least in the west) have similar subcultures with certain variations more dependant in social class rather than race.

Here for example, Cumbias Villeras are mostly related to Villa mestizos by people. Rock, however, is seen as more lower class white music, despite not all who listen to Cumbias are low class Mestizos and not all those who listen to rock are low class whites.

It's often said "Rap" is black music but is it really? I remember seeing stats and polls revealing that 60% of people who consumed rap in the United States were white.

Electronic music is associated mostly with Northern European whites but there are many good Israeli electronic artist and I know some good ones done by Mestizos like Hocico.

Well that's just in my humble opinion, I really think that for a song to become music it has to have melody and variety of tones, for me Rap is someone talking fast and a bad influence for society in most cases in that type of songs. But I guess everyones has his/her standards of music.

[poekfpojoibien]

Well that's just in my humble opinion, I really think that for a song to become music it has to have melody and variety of tones, for me Rap is someone talking fast and a bad influence for society in most cases in that type of songs. But I guess everyones has his/her standards of music.

You think so?

[Rchzygnc]

I listen to alternative rock, Chinese (Mandarin)/Japanese pop (mostly R&B type stuff), R&B, German pop, some Russian music (pop rock), jazz, classical once in awhile (Tchaikovsky mostly), and rap (but as I get older, less rap music)...oh yeah folk music (like Damien Rice). My favorite type of music is probably "good" rap and music like Tool/A Perfect Circle...

Music taste typically depends on what you are exposed to when you are young...it's really pretty simple. Some people diverge as they get older. No one played classical in my house, but my mother played classic rock (Beatles, Doors, Muddy Waters, Who, etc) which I still listen to.

[boizzones]

You think so?

Well you see now thats acceptable to me because of its melody all through the end, and it's not like mainstream rap which pretty much has become worser every time.

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I listen to alternative rock, Chinese (Mandarin)/Japanese pop (mostly R&B type stuff), R&B, German pop, some Russian music (pop rock), jazz, classical once in awhile (Tchaikovsky mostly), and rap (but as I get older, less rap music)...oh yeah folk music (like Damien Rice). My favorite type of music is probably "good" rap and music like Tool/A Perfect Circle...

Music taste typically depends on what you are exposed to when you are young...it's really pretty simple. Some people diverge as they get older. No one played classical in my house, but my mother played classic rock (Beatles, Doors, Muddy Waters, Who, etc) which I still listen to.

I think you're right, it depends on the environment you where exposed. My dad is the classical music/ celtic folk type of person he listens from Radiohead, Maddona typish, Techno all the way to the oddest celtic songs he can find online.

[gennnniiikk]

Well Techno was created by Afro-american DJ's in detroit, Techno is obviously African influenced its got heavy polyythm, its just the polyrthm doesnt change that much, but its obvious. If anything Techno sounds more African than hiphop.

Rock is harder to trace its got both European and Africna influence, the behavior of Rock (The way the guitar is held upwards is very African, thats how people in Mali hold the Kora), However its obvious Rock has both European and African influences.

Where there is easier distction i believe is inthe singing, when i hear a Black/Afro-descendant woman sing traditional music, its hard for women of other "races" to mimmick them. Heres an example. Gives me chills, the voice of an African/Afro-descendant woman, very spiritually connecting.

[Neitteloxesia]

I have no reservation in admitting classical music from the period of AD1450-1770 is the most beautiful music ever composed during the last 10 thousand years.


Rock and pop, electronic musics are all but derivations from the idioms of classical music.

[TritteTouff]

Black people created Rock and it was stolen by Elvis Presley

Professor Willie Ruff, of Yale University, said the roots of the music derived from evangelical spirituals and blues and jazz, had more to do with the crofters of the Outer Hebrides than slaves on US plantations.

[Enjoymms]

i listen to all kinds of music

[Fosavoa]

I have no reservation in admitting classical music from the period of AD1450-1770 is the most beautiful music ever composed during the last 10 thousand years.


Rock and pop, electronic musics are all but derivations from the idioms of classical music.

10 millenniums ?

seriously rock is the true supreme genre, because it has lots of verities , I mean you can literary do all types of rock songs, with rap all the way to classical instruments. So rock. If you don't like rock then you my friend have some serious issues .

[dahlilaninfo]

I listen to alternative rock, Chinese (Mandarin)/Japanese pop (mostly R&B type stuff), R&B, German pop, some Russian music (pop rock), jazz, classical once in awhile (Tchaikovsky mostly), and rap (but as I get older, less rap music)...oh yeah folk music (like Damien Rice). My favorite type of music is probably "good" rap and music like Tool/A Perfect Circle...

Music taste typically depends on what you are exposed to when you are young...it's really pretty simple. Some people diverge as they get older. No one played classical in my house, but my mother played classic rock (Beatles, Doors, Muddy Waters, Who, etc) which I still listen to.

Since you listen to the Chinese shit, what do you think about Twelve Girls Band? I used to listen to them a lot.

I primarily listen to Industrial music, metal (but not that Nordic shit) and hard rock... but I don't pigeon-hole myself with genres. The only music I'm not into is country.

[hexniks]

Since you listen to the Chinese shit, what do you think about Twelve Girls Band? I used to listen to them a lot.

I primarily listen to Industrial music, metal (but not that Nordic shit) and hard rock... but I don't pigeon-hole myself with genres. The only music I'm not into is country.

Nah I don't listen to them.

Chinese music I listen to is:

Old school Wang Fei (Wong Faye)
Jay Chou (Zhou Jielun)
Elva Hsiao (Xiao Yaxun)
Coco Lee (Li Wen)

All Mandarin pop, I don't listen to Canto stuff.

Stuff like this:



This song is cool, the title means "Sorry" but this guy has game and is Alpha. The song is not him apologizing to some bitch. He is saying he was married, took his ring off put it in the drawer, she fucked up, and she needs to say "SHE IS SORRY". Not a common American break up song. Men still run shit in Asia.



This song is in Taiyu (Taiwanese dialect, similar to Hokkien)...no idea what he is saying, but I like it. :-)



And this song, because I love to see Coco Lee crawl around on all fours wet. The song sucks. Coco actually grew up in California, can't you tell. haha She used to do Canto, but Mandarin is a bigger market, so she learned it in adulthood.


only industrial I listen to is NIN...that's left over from my fascination with Pretty Hate Machine back in Junior High...years ago.

[Scukonahuy]

I have no reservation in admitting classical music from the period of AD1450-1770 is the most beautiful music ever composed during the last 10 thousand years.


Rock and pop, electronic musics are all but derivations from the idioms of classical music.

Agreed, that is why it doesn't matter to me if people want to try to claim techno and rock for black people because they are inferior forms of music compared to classical music which is not associated with black people. A black Mozart, Beethoven, Bach ? hell blacks don't even have any composer comparable to a Brahms,Chopin, Monteverdi,Verdi ,Mendelssohn, Weber,Gluck let alone Mozart, Beethoven and Bach.. Modern music is in fact inferior crap and being nigger influenced probably has something to do with it. In reality, not the internet, I listen to classical music most of the time except when I exercise. When I exercise I listen to black metal to hype me up. Now black metal doesn't have any blues influence and is probably the only form of metal or rock to have that distinction and it also tends to have classical structures but at the end of the day isn't as good as classical music which is the superior archetype template for all other forms of music to conform. However, much black metal comes closer to classical music than most techno,rock, metal and rap etc...