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Old 10-25-2010, 07:22 AM   #21
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They were wiped out (mostly) by European invaders, from South to North America (the Iberians, the English and the French). There has been no apology for what happened. Fortunately their population has been growing now. From the Americas to Europe, Europeans have shown extreme racism every now and then against defenseless minorities. From the holocaust of the Native Americans to the holocaust of the Gypsies, etc, in the XX century. What a hypocrisy, to cry for a few immigrants in Europe and at the same time to support what Europeans did elsewhere, South Africa included, this is exactly what many Europeans do!
That was an allegory, but none of my ancestors were among these French, Iberian and Brits colonial and criminal invaders. In fact, Swedes were among the first America in the fight against slavery and to rebel against the British imperialism/colonialism.

The Revolt of the Long Swede: Transatlantic Hopes and Fears on the Delaware, 1669.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:48 PM   #22
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Certainly, and I did not imply Sweden took part in it. Sweden is among the most developed nations in Europe, and their wealth does not come from colonial enterprises. They have remained free and have not been invaded since recorded history at least. I know many Swedes identify with oppressed minorities all over the globe. However some conservative Northern Europeans identify strongly with the Dutch settlers of South Africa, and support them. I am not saying they are wrong or whatever. It is just that these people conservative tend to support European presence in the lands which were invaded (in Australia, South Africa or elsewhere) and yet they don't admit foreign presence in their own regions - even if small and caused by their own governments mostly. I am just saying it because I live in a region - Latin America - whose complex social structure was built mainly during the colonial era. I have studied genealogical records and our own history, and the reality is that what took place here was quite brutal indeed, shocking. The US and Canada have a somewhat similar history (in some aspects). The only reason the British, French and Iberians succeeded here so much is because the natives lacked the technology to fight and defeat them. The Japanese and Chinese have my respect as they fought back and were not colonized. The effects of colonization are enduring and hard to change.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:04 PM   #23
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They're already completely assimilated as also contributed to the industrialization of its country.
Not everybody! In the community of Orkut for German-Brazilians there are some lunatics claiming to be Germans.

We do not see those lunatics in the communities of Italian-Brazilians, for example
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Old 10-30-2010, 03:11 AM   #24
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Certainly, and I did not imply Sweden took part in it. Sweden is among the most developed nations in Europe, and their wealth does not come from colonial enterprises. They have remained free and have not been invaded since recorded history at least. I know many Swedes identify with oppressed minorities all over the globe. However some conservative Northern Europeans identify strongly with the Dutch settlers of South Africa, and support them. I am not saying they are wrong or whatever. It is just that these people conservative tend to support European presence in the lands which were invaded (in Australia, South Africa or elsewhere) and yet they don't admit foreign presence in their own regions - even if small and caused by their own governments mostly. I am just saying it because I live in a region - Latin America - whose complex social structure was built mainly during the colonial era. I have studied genealogical records and our own history, and the reality is that what took place here was quite brutal indeed, shocking. The US and Canada have a somewhat similar history (in some aspects). The only reason the British, French and Iberians succeeded here so much is because the natives lacked the technology to fight and defeat them. The Japanese and Chinese have my respect as they fought back and were not colonized. The effects of colonization are enduring and hard to change.
Oh yeah, the Japanese, those blameless little angels and stewards of the East... give me a break. Maybe you should study Japan, its history, and its current immigration policies. Then you'd realize whites aren't the only ones that find the idea of lying down while being invaded particularly appealing. It doesn't matter what color you are; if you have an ounce of self-respect, you'll fight to preserve your culture.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:35 AM   #25
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Then you'd realize whites aren't the only ones that find the idea of lying down while being invaded particularly appealing.
That should say, "Then you'd realize whites aren't the only ones that don't find the idea of lying down while being invaded particularly appealing."
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