[stoneeZef]

What is the difference in phenotype between this group of Cabo Verdeans and the average Dominican?

[gghrdfffhfyj]

i see alot of similarites in the phenotypes of both dominicans and cape verdeans.. if you were to tell me this was in santo domingo id probaly believe it

[HRS1H7gO]

i see alot of similarites in the phenotypes of both dominicans and cape verdeans.. if you were to tell me this was in santo domingo id probaly believe it

Its interesting because this particular group of Cabo Verdeans look a little like Dominicans, but as a whole, I think Cabo Verdeans are a little darker in skintone

[actioliGalm]

Its interesting because this particular group of Cabo Verdeans look a little like Dominicans, but as a whole, I think Cabo Verdeans are a little darker in skintone

Basically my feelings on the subject. Would that scene fit in within our island? Definitely. I think we have more of a "range" though.

[uwJzsM8t]

Its interesting because this particular group of Cabo Verdeans look a little like Dominicans, but as a whole, I think Cabo Verdeans are a little darker in skintone

Are those US Cape Verdeans? I've read Cape Verdeans in Cabo Verde tend to be darker, more African-influenced. But, yes, this group could pass as a group of Dominicans. This group seems to have a lot of Portuguese admixture.

[untostaronaf]

Dominicans have more Amerindian DNA than Cabo Verdians, who are just Euro-Africans.

[WelcomeMe]

^this party is probably for brava or fogo people, people from those islands are known to be more lightskin than the average capeverdian.

Anyways, this discussion keeps coming back. I think both brazilian and dominican mulatto types usually resemble capeverdian ones. It's the darkskinned types that usually differ the most between these 3 countries.

As dominican mulatto types are a bigger part of the national population compared with brazil, i'd say overall DR comes closest to mirroring capeverdian looks. Also regarding african imputs, i'd say the dominican ones more closely resemble capeverdians ones. Especially in early colonization phase of DR a majority of slaves brought there actually passed through or was shipped from CV! This is not the case for brazil where most african input is from either western central africa (angola/congo) or gulf of guinea (nigeria/benin). Only northern brazil has significant african input from upperguinea/senegambia (which is the almost exclusive african input for capeverdeans).

There's the additional amerindian element in dominicans of course, but pseudo mongoloid features also appear in capeverdeans every now and then. So there's some overlap for that part as well, Although i do think the amerindian element does cause dominican phenotypical variety to be greater than cape verdean one. Also proportionally DR and CV populations are not the same. Lightskinned /white dominicans being a far bigger part of population than lightskinned/white capeverdeans.

[masterso]

Are those US Cape Verdeans? I've read Cape Verdeans in Cabo Verde tend to be darker, more African-influenced. But, yes, this group could pass as a group of Dominicans. This group seems to have a lot of Portuguese admixture.

I am not sure if their in USA, could be. I noticed that many Cabo Verdeans in USA seem very Portuguese influenced,

[clomoll]

I am not sure if their in USA, could be. I noticed that many Cabo Verdeans in USA seem very Portuguese influenced,

Agreed. Because they tend to be from Fogo or Brava, which are the most Portuguese-influenced islands of the group. Many Cape Verdeans here look mulatto or like Latin American blacks, some are perceived as just Portuguese if they are light enough. Most look similar to Dominicans.

The only Cape Verdeans and Dominicans who look strikingly different are the darker, more African looking Cape Verdeans, and the Dominicans who look visibly part Amerindian. Otherwise they look similar.


This is what the ones here look like (Cape verdeans);

[Terinalo]

This is not the case for brazil where most african input is from either western central africa (angola/congo) or gulf of guinea (nigeria/benin). Only northern brazil has significant african input from upperguinea/senegambia (which is the almost exclusive african input for capeverdeans).

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I also noticed that Cabo Verdeans mulattos have more oval/longer faces, whereas many Brasillian mulattos have rounder faces, must be the diiference in African input as many Brasilian slaves were Bantu influenced.

[WFSdZuP3]

I also noticed that Cabo Verdeans mulattos have more oval/longer faces, whereas many Brasillian mulattos have rounder faces, must be the diiference in African input as many Brasilian slaves were Bantu influenced.

Brazilian mulattos and blacks tend to have round faces and very wide cheekbones. The black in Brazilians is Bantu.

[VQdeochratis]

Agreed. Because they tend to be from Fogo or Brava, which are the most Portuguese-influenced islands of the group. Many Cape Verdeans here look mulatto or like Latin American blacks, some are perceived as just Portuguese if they are light enough. Most look similar to Dominicans.

The only Cape Verdeans and Dominicans who look strikingly different are the darker, more African looking Cape Verdeans, and the Dominicans who look visibly part Amerindian. Otherwise they look similar.


This is what the ones here look like (Cape verdeans);

Thanks Rapunzel tower, cool pics

[mr.nemo]

Thanks Rapunzel tower, cool pics

Yep

The man in this picture is my Cape Verdean great-grandfather, and he was very Portuguese looking too.

[RayFairhurst]

Yep

The man in this picture is my Cape Verdean great-grandfather, and he was very Portuguese looking too.

Yeah, he looks ery Portuguese but the woman looks very admixed , almost Amerindian influenced, but thats impossible as their are no Amerindians in Cabo Verde..

[Dilangos]

Yeah, he looks ery Portuguese but the woman looks very admixed , almost Amerindian influenced, but thats impossible as their are no Amerindians in Cabo Verde..

She was Portuguese too but not Cape Verdean. You think she looks Amerindian??

[Ngwkgczx]

She was Portuguese too but not Cape Verdean. You think she looks Amerindian??

Oh she looks different in that pic , lol, she looks Portuguese in that one

[Karinochka]

Oh she looks different in that pic , lol, she looks Portuguese in that one

She had a brother who looked very slightly Afro-influenced so we always suspected black admixture but my mom's 23andme results said 100% European. I think that's incorrect but she was at least 90%.

[derty]

She had a brother who looked very slightly Afro-influenced so we always suspected black admixture but my mom's 23andme results said 100% European. I think that's incorrect but she was at least 90%.

Some Portuguese tend to look afro influenced which is strange. I do know that Cristiano Ronaldo has a Cape Verdean granma

[salomal-qask]

As dominican mulatto types are a bigger part of the national population compared with brazil, i'd say overall DR comes closest to mirroring capeverdian looks. Also regarding african imputs, i'd say the dominican ones more closely resemble capeverdians ones. Especially in early colonization phase of DR a majority of slaves brought there actually passed through or was shipped from CV! This is not the case for brazil where most african input is from either western central africa (angola/congo) or gulf of guinea (nigeria/benin). Only northern brazil has significant african input from upperguinea/senegambia (which is the almost exclusive african input for capeverdeans).

That's right. During the initial stages of the Spanish colonization of Hispaniola, the "Asiento", that is, the license that the Spanish Crown granted to some individuals to bring african slaves to the colonies, was in power of the portuguese, which would use Cape Verde as their main shipping point to the Caribbean and Northern Brazil.

The situation would change drastically during the XVIIIth century, when the British practically took over the slave trafficking business to the Spanish and Portuguese colonies in America as a result of the Allied victory on the War of the Spanish Succession (1701-1714). Being that the exploitation of the southern Brazilian states (Minas Gerais, Goiás, Sao Paulo, etc.) would begin in earnest during this stage, it's not unreasonable to ascribe this difference between Dominican/Cape Verdean/Northern Brazilian and Southern Brazilians to this change in the supplier of slaves.

[somamasoso]

I am not sure if their in USA, could be. I noticed that many Cabo Verdeans in USA seem very Portuguese influenced,

The reason many of the pictures of Cape Verdeans in Cape Verde seem darker is because the majority of pictures are taken on the island of Santiago(which is the capital island) that's where the strongest African lineage is, but for Cape Verdeans as a whole they make up the smallest % of the population somewhere btwn 15-20% if that. All of the other islands are pretty much mulattoes types. Cv's in the U.S. are overwhelming from Brava and Fogo and greatly outnumber all CV's on the islands, probably double the numbers.

If you are talking about DRs with this range of phenotypes:

http://www.adventures.org/a/fym/imag...R-photos-3.jpg

than yes it's almost impossible to tell them apart. Where I live the most DR's look "mulattoes", and we almost are always described as looking DR.

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Yeah, he looks ery Portuguese but the woman looks very admixed , almost Amerindian influenced, but thats impossible as their are no Amerindians in Cabo Verde..

This Amerindian influence thing I think is often just assumed if a person has high cheek bones and small eyes, but you fail to forget many Africans have the same look. That look is very common in Cape Verde especially in the Northern islands.
Most of the Cape Verdeans below if they were presented as DR's everyone would say they were Amerindian influenced.


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