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Old 10-08-2010, 12:05 AM   #21
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I won't go to Finland.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:09 AM   #22
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I won't go to Finland.
No, they are not racist. They are friendly. What i mean is the sense of homogeneity in Finland, which is excellent if the world continues the way is going in 20 years Finland will be the only country with identity.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:11 AM   #23
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how many are from the former soviet union? Likely almost all of them.

How many?

according to "*БК" (№11, 2007, стр. 42):
Russians – 31%
Azeris – 14%
Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashi – 10%
Ukrainians – 8%
Armenians – 5%
Tajics, Uzbeks, Kazakh, Kyrgyz – 5%
Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese – 5%
Chechens, Dagestani, Ingushi – 4%
Belarussians – 3%
Georgians – 3%
Moldavians – 3%
Gypsy – 3%
Jews – 2%
others – 4%

Total in Moscow 11 mln people
This is unofficial statistics, but it explains well the activities of skinheads...
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:12 AM   #24
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No, they are not racist. They are friendly. What i mean is the sense of homogeneity in Finland, which is excellent if the world continues the way is going in 20 years Finland will be the only country with identity.
Friendly to an extent, but the way they defend their identity is too extreme, I see they deny some part of their history that don't suit their need.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:17 AM   #25
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No, they are not racist. They are friendly. What i mean is the sense of homogeneity in Finland, which is excellent if the world continues the way is going in 20 years Finland will be the only country with identity.
LOL,that is nonsense.

Go to a baseball game on the 4th of July in New York.

You will see plenty of "identity and nationalism" it is just not tied to blood, we have surpassed your tribalism. As we might say in America..."we are on some new shit..."

You still stuck in the 18th century extended tribalism...that is not much different from a hunter gather in the Kalahari.

Our nationalism is our shared respect, admiration, and allegiance to ideals we hold above all else...these things bind us. And we don't need a communist dictatorship to force it on us either.

One day you will evolve too.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:17 AM   #26
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I won't go to Finland.
I've been there in midsummer and found it quite delightful, you're missing out, Jib.

BTW, I'm not that Fennotypical either.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:51 AM   #27
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I won't go to Finland.
I would go to Lapponia during the Christmas period,Santa comes from there after all. :3
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:54 AM   #28
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The new world vision of nationality(at least majority of new world nations) don't include race on it, our nationality is more based on culture, and political issues, racial issues are not that relevant to us.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:57 AM   #29
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Russia

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Funny thing is the most racist nations tend to be the ones that are poorer and the ones most immigrants would not prefer to go to or just wish to pass through on the way to some place better. lol
Yeah I really don't understand the Russian thing for skinheads. I mean Russia is a shithole. I Was talking to a girl whose family immigrated from St. Petersburg when she was young. She said they won't travel back to Russia because its too corrupt and violent and she's ethnic Russian. I think a lot of it has to do with an inferiority complex lot of Russians have to the West. Also, given Russia's shitty economy it's easy to scapegoat ethnic minorities in Russia as the problem. It's funny how Russians are so xenophobic. Who really says "I'm going to Russia to make a better life" People are trying to get out of there not in. Russian Skinheads can have their shitty country. It's sad that Russia used to have such good culture, music etc.
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:00 AM   #30
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race and politics should never mix.
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:50 AM   #31
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Politics and race should not mix, but nationalism and race must and will mix.

Why are all that anti-Russia? They are one of few countries in the world who are able to stand up to who ever they want to. They are one of few people who have fought bravely for their cause in every war. Their culture is in many aspects superior to that of other European cultures. They have been able to hold up the world's biggest country and have within 2 decades gone from a collapsed economy to one of the greatest economies in the World.
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:55 AM   #32
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Politics and race should not mix, but nationalism and race must and will mix.

Why are all that anti-Russia? They are one of few countries in the world who are able to stand up to who ever they want to. They are one of few people who have fought bravely for their cause in every war. Their culture is in many aspects superior to that of other European cultures. They have been able to hold up the world's biggest country and have within 2 decades gone from a collapsed economy to one of the greatest economies in the World.
Nationalism and race do not always mix.

Americans are quite nationalistic. That was the point of my last post, but it is not based on race/ethnicity. That is a primitive old world tribalist 18th century concept of a state as came out of Europe.

Join the modern world. We have evolved beyond that.

Russia is not one of the greatest economies in the world...WTF are you talking about?

Prove it.

Show me something from the IMF, World Bank, etc showing that Russia is a developed 1st world nation.

You can't, because it is not.

Russia is a BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, and China) a large developing nation.

That's about it. No international economist outside of Russia would agree with your assessment.

As far as able to 'stand up to enemies" who do they need to stand up to? A poorer weaker nation like Georgia? their own people (Chechens)? Who exactly? LOL


"World's biggest nation" because most of Russia is nearly empty and they have nukes, so that is the only reason CHina has not overran the Russian Far East and Siberia...it would be easy to take those areas.

Having nukes is not an accomplishment, Pakistan has them, so what.
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:56 AM   #33
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Politics and race should not mix, but nationalism and race must and will mix.
Nationalism is a politiical concept.
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:58 AM   #34
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LOL,that is nonsense.

Go to a baseball game on the 4th of July in New York.

You will see plenty of "identity and nationalism" it is just not tied to blood, we have surpassed your tribalism. As we might say in America..."we are on some new shit..."

You still stuck in the 18th century extended tribalism...that is not much different from a hunter gather in the Kalahari.

Our nationalism is our shared respect, admiration, and allegiance to ideals we hold above all else...these things bind us. And we don't need a communist dictatorship to force it on us either.
4th of July? Maybe you mean el 5 del Mayos the new independence day of the Estados Unido de America.

One day you will evolve too.
No, thanks. I love the European traditions and European Phenotypes.
I dont want to see this future for Europe:
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:00 AM   #35
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Natoinalism and race do not always mix.

Americans are quite nationalistic. That was the point of my last post, but it is not based on race/ethnicity. That is a primitive old world tribalist 18th century concept of a state as came out of Europe.

Join the modern world. We have evolved beyond that.

Russia is not one of the greatest economies in the world...WTF are you talking about?

Prove it.

Show me something from the IMF, World Bank, etc showing that Russia is a developed 1st world nation.

You can't, because it is not.

Russia is a BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, and China) a large developing nation.

That's about it.
America is not nationalistic, it is patriotic, a clear difference. America or the USA might be able to be nationalistic within a few centuries when all of the inhabitants have mixed so much that they will all have a fully American identity and therefore evolve into the nationalism European nations are already able to maintain.

You are reading ways you want to. I did not say they are a developed country (I presume that is what you want to say with 1st world nation) however I did say that they are one of the greatest economies in the World if you do not agree, that is truly odd. Russia is neither a developed or developing nation but somewhere inbetween.
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:02 AM   #36
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No, thanks. I love the European traditions and European Phenotypes.
I dont want to see this future for Europe:
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Xenophobia at his fullest.
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:02 AM   #37
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4th of July? Maybe you mean el 5 del Mayos the new independence day of the Estados Unido de America.



No, thanks. I love the European traditions and European Phenotypes.
I dont want to see this future for Europe:
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it's ok. asians would prefer contributing to successful english speaking countries over the debt-ridden insignificant wog countries any day
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:06 AM   #38
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4th of July? Maybe you mean el 5 del Mayos the new independence day of the Estados Unido de America.



No, thanks. I love the European traditions and European Phenotypes.
I dont want to see this future for Europe:
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That's not even Mexico's independence day.

Look it up.

In any case, I will forgive you like Jesus because you know not what you speak of.

You can't miss heaven if you haven't lived there.

In any case European tradition has nothing to do with Italian nationalism, unless you think there are no ethnic, linguistic, or cultural difference between Europeans and they are all just like Italians.


You should learn from your ancestors. Romans understood that citizenship (which they got from the Greeks) was more important than "blood", eventually. When the empire was at its peak it was multi-ethnic.

Italy will never be as great as Rome.

Is it shocking that China, when at its peak, ,during the Tang Dynasty was also one of the most open and diverse periods of CHinese history, even the first King of Tang, was only half Han Chinese (his mother's family was Turkic).

Italy will never be as great as Tang China, Rome, or the U.S.

Fear of what you don't understand only makes you weak.

Fear is the mind killer.
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:10 AM   #39
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american showing national pride:



European showing national pride:

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Old 10-08-2010, 02:11 AM   #40
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No, they are not racist. They are friendly. What i mean is the sense of homogeneity in Finland, which is excellent if the world continues the way is going in 20 years Finland will be the only country with identity.
Finland is certainly not the most homogenous country in Europe. In Western Europe its probably Iceland (almost no immigrants finds the way to there, and Icelandic is the only official language). Its even more clear if you know that Icelandic is super-conservative language and does not want to have too many foreign (not even english words) in it. Televsion is called kvikmyndir or something similar.

In the whole of Europe I will guess some post-communist state (certainly not Russia, Bosnia or Romania).

Once all Russians move out from Estonia and Latvia they will maybe be the most homogenous states in Europe, as they have no culturally and racially different immigrants and minorties (apart from a few Tatars).

You find signs in Swedish in Helsinki btw (highly unnecessary if you ask me). And, the finnish social democrat Pavo Lipponen wants to protect that.
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