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Old 10-14-2010, 02:45 AM   #21
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My affinity is actually close to North Bantu and south Bantu, so no, not nigeria. More like Cameroon to Angola...many slaves came from there, not just Nigeria, actually most slaves did not come from Nigeria, just a large percentage.
Read my aswer above solkim post.

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I'm complete right now, if you aren't, you can seek professional help. My identity is defined by me, not where I am.
That is you, don't all people think the same.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:51 AM   #22
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Read my aswer above solkim post.

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That is you, don't all people think the same.
Then they need a new philosophy. I suggest reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche.

Übermensch don't need to go "finding themselves" in some far off land to feel "complete". They are complete, because they define themselves and their reality where ever they are.

That simple. Even Buddha would say that if you are looking outside yourself to feel "complete" then you are thinking incorrectly.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:52 AM   #23
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Then they need a new philosophy. I suggest reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche.

Übermensch don't need to go "finding themselves" in some far off land to feel "complete". They are complete, because they define themselves and their reality where ever they are.

That simple. Even Buddha would say that if you are looking outside yourself to feel "complete" then you are thinking incorrectly.
You are sounding like a black nazi.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:55 AM   #24
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You are sounding like a black nazi.
No. I sound like a black MAN.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:56 AM   #25
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No. I sound like a black MAN.
Yes, a black NAZI man, heil hilter!!
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:58 AM   #26
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Yes, a black NAZI man, heil hilter!!
You think being self assured, self defined, and confident makes you a Nazi?

Nazis were anything butt. They cling to some old false Aryan myth and ran around scared of Jewish conspiracies.

Nietzsche was definitely no Nazi (although his sister later was) he would not have supported them. They were in no way "over men".
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:01 AM   #27
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You think being self assured, self defined, and confident makes you a Nazi?

Nazis were anything butt. They cling to some old false Aryan myth and ran around scared of Jewish conspiracies.

Nietzsche was definitely no Nazi (although his sister later was) he would not have supported them. They were in no way "over men".
But they seems to like his philosophies, anyways, I don't think of myself as superior, just me, if any person find happiness in being in contact with their ancestors, that fine with me, if ohter don't, that is also fine with me, I don't need to be superior.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:03 AM   #28
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I'm complete right now, if you aren't, you can seek professional help. My identity is defined by me, not where I am.
agree 100%. My identity is that im a living soul and a human. However for 90% of the world population identity derived from nation, location, language etc. etc. is a very important part for the sense of self. If this makes that woman happy, who the hell am i to judge?

And i hope you saw the irony in my comment regarding moving back to central asia to ride horses all day long
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:04 AM   #29
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agree 100%. My identity is that im a living soul and a human. However for 90% of the world population identity derived from nation, location, language etc. etc. is a very important part for the sense of self. If this makes that woman happy, who the hell am i to judge?

And i hope you saw the irony in my comment regarding moving back to central asia to ride horses all day long
My point
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:07 AM   #30
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but hey seems to like his philosophies, anyways, I don't think of myself as superior, just me, if any person find happiness in being in contact with their ancestors, that fine with me, if ohter don't, that is also fine with me, I don't need to be superior.
No one is talking about "superior" per se.

What I'm saying is that everything you need to be happy is in you. Buddha believed this and so did Nietzsche.

If you feel "incomplete" and have to rome the world to find yourself to be "happy with yourself" I'm saying this is some sort of mental issue.

Calling me a Nazi for expressing that is childish.

Not understanding that is somewhat odd, as I think most psychologist will agree with me.

there might be places you are more comfortable in the world, but somehow thinking that running off to some land you have no real connection to find something you think you lost and thinking that will bring you happiness, is almost always a losing strategy for most people, because the answer to their unhappiness or incomplete feeling is almost always in the mirror.

A man with everything material can be suicidal and a man with nothing in a prison cell can be perfectly content.

It is in your mind.

I think also thinking that makes one superior or inferior is a childish way to look at the world. Nietzsche was far more complicated than that, and it is insulting to him to take his quite complex argument and reduce it to childishness black and white thinking.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:08 AM   #31
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She's free to live wherever she thinks she'll be happy. But I disagree with her if she did this because she thinks she needed to 'go back to her roots' or find her identity.
African Americans have an identity, its an identity as American as Apple Pie.
IMO, thats like some white American of mixed Euroancestry going to try to live and bond with some European country based on skin color or shared ancestry from long ago.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:08 AM   #32
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No one is talking about "superior" per se.

What I'm saying is that everything you need to be happy is in you. Buddha believed this and so did Nietzsche.

If you feel "incomplete" and have to rome the world to find yourself to be "happy with yourself" I'm saying this is some sort of mental issue.

Calling me a Nazi for expressing that is childish.

Not understanding that is somewhat odd, as I think most psychologist will agree with me.

there might be places you are more comfortable in the world, but somehow thinking that running off to some land you have no real connection to find something you think you lost and thinking that will bring you happiness, is almost always a losing strategy for most people, because the answer to their unhappiness or incomplete feeling is almost always in the mirror.

A man with everything material can be suicidal and a man with nothing in a prison cell can be perfectly content.

It is in your mind.

I think also thinking that makes one superior or inferior is a childish way to look at the world. Nietzsche was far more complicated than that, and it is insulting to him to take his quite complex argument and reduce it to childishness black and white thinking.
It is amusing how Buddha is valued but Christ isn't.

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She's free to live wherever she thinks she'll be happy. But I disagree with her if she did this because she thinks she needed to 'go back to her roots' or find her identity.
African Americans have an identity, its an identity as American as Apple Pie.
IMO, thats like some white American of mixed Euroancestry going to try to live and bond with some European country based on skin color or shared ancestry from long ago.
There are white Americans who have moved tro Europe to feel like home, and maybe adapted the european ways, there is not telling White americans haven't done so.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:11 AM   #33
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agree 100%. My identity is that im a living soul and a human. However for 90% of the world population identity derived from nation, location, language etc. etc. is a very important part for the sense of self. If this makes that woman happy, who the hell am i to judge?

And i hope you saw the irony in my comment regarding moving back to central asia to ride horses all day long
I see...but she had a nation, language, and identity.

That was not her issue. It is how she perceived things that were the issue. In the end she is an individual and has the perfect right to move to whatever nation will take her, but I often find those who are always off in search of themselves, never find themselves, not really...

Nietzsche would say that 90% of the world is "backward" and "dead" slaves to trend and "the mob"...

He is right.

90% of the world isn't worth shit to begin with.

I would never sit about and compare myself to what "most people" or "the average person does". Who the hell wants to be "average"? Average people aren't really doing much with anything.

Average people are not even intelligent to have the conversation we are having about such abstract concepts.



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It is amusing how Buddha is valued but Christ isn't.

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There are white Americans who have moved tro Europe to feel like home, and maybe adapted the european ways, there is not telling White americans haven't done so.
Buddha never claimed to be a god, neither did Nietzsche.

In any case, I don't think Jesus would be advising you to move around, he will likely tell you you just need to pray more and your "empty" feeling comes from a lacking in your relationship with God.(him).
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:13 AM   #34
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Then they need a new philosophy. I suggest reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche.

Übermensch don't need to go "finding themselves" in some far off land to feel "complete". They are complete, because they define themselves and their reality where ever they are.

That simple. Even Buddha would say that if you are looking outside yourself to feel "complete" then you are thinking incorrectly.
I don't think this woman was "lost" or anything. She knows who she is and what she wanted, so she decided say "deuces" to America and move to Nigeria and live that life.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:13 AM   #35
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It is amusing how Buddha is valued but Christ isn't.

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There are white Americans who have moved tro Europe to feel like home, and maybe adapted the european ways, there is not telling White americans haven't done so.
Who cares what white people do?

This is not about "race" this is about certain types of people with "complexes" the white people who do this are no different from the black people who do it.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:16 AM   #36
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I see...but she had a nation, language, and identity.
a nation where her ancestor wanted to be and were forcefully sent to, a language forced onto he ancestors, and an identity made by the elites.

Nietzsche would say that 90% of the world is "backward" and "dead" slaves to trend and "the mob"...

He is right.

90% of the world isn't worth shit to begin with.

I would never sit about and compare myself to what "most people" or "the average person does". Who the hell wants to be "average"? Average people aren't really doing much with anything.

Average people are not even intelligent to have the conversation we are having about such abstract concepts.


Haleluyah, he has found the light!!!!!!!

Please don't stop enlight us with your omnipotent allmighty knowledge!!!!
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:17 AM   #37
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I don't think this woman was "lost" or anything. She knows who she is and what she wanted, so she decided say "deuces" to America and move to Nigeria and live that life.
Do you think normal people behave in this manner? I mean would the average person do this?

No.

So you have to ask what makes her different and what lead her to this decision.

I grew up around these people, this is my mom's generation.

i would bet big money she is some ex-Panther or some other form of black nationalist who say "conspiracies" of "the man" keeping her down everywhere she looked.

America would never change, never improve, nothing. A s she said "they would have killed Obama if not for GOd" that is her mindset, right there, and I know people like this.


She unlike most of these people who dropped out of that movement, took it even further and moved back to the "motherland" where she could be a true "African".



I don't respect these people. Sorry.

Instead of working to make things better where she was she instead runs away and then talks shit on foreign tv shows about the nation she came from and where her daughters currently live.

Sorry, she gets no respect.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:18 AM   #38
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Buddha never claimed to be a god, neither did Nietzsche.

In any case, I don't think Jesus would be advising you to move around, he will likely tell you you just need to pray more and your "empty" feeling comes from a lacking in your relationship with God.(him).
Neither did Jesus, he said he was the son of God, not God, and he did more than praying.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:20 AM   #39
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a nation where her ancestor wanted to be and were forcefully sent to, a language forced onto he ancestors, and an identity made by the elites.



Haleluyah, he has found the light!!!!!!!

Please don't stop enlight us with your omnipotent allmighty knowledge!!!!
Dude...you know how many people's ancestors were forced to be somewhere they didn't want to be?

LOL If everyone in the world went back to where their ancestors came from we would have, well constant warfare, fighting, all kinds of havok.

Imagine if all the East GErmans with "semi-Slavic" origin last names wanted to go back to "Slavic lands" and all the people with obviously Celtic names in the England went back to Ireland, Wales, and Scotland...all the Finnic folks wanted to relocate from Russian to FInland, or a lot of Fins want to relocate to Russia!


That's a bullshit excuse.

I don't make decisions as a man in 2010, based on what happened to my ancestors 200+ years ago. LOL What type of bullshit logic induces that type of thinking.


Shit happens. Get over it. Learn from the past and move on.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:20 AM   #40
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I see...but she had a nation, language, and identity.

That was not her issue. It is how she perceived things that were the issue. In the end she is an individual and has the perfect right to move to whatever nation will take her, but I often find those who are always off in search of themselves, never find themselves, not really...
Agree, ever human is already complete. Still for people without such understanding, this 'ignorance', and the adoption of an identity that equates to her feelings is fine enough. Ignorance is bliss

Nietzsche would say that 90% of the world is "backward" and "dead" slaves to trend and "the mob"...

He is right.

90% of the world isn't worth shit to begin with.
I'd say that feelings of superiority are just as backwards.

I would never sit about and compare myself to what "most people" or "the average person does". Who the hell wants to be "average"? Average people aren't really doing much with anything.

Average people are not even intelligent to have the conversation we are having about such abstract concepts.
Well the thing is, as soon as you start to frantically TRY to disattach yourself from the majority/average, ironically you create another 'false identity'.

Buddha never claimed to be a god, neither did Nietzsche.
Well Jebus himself probably neither, its probably an invention of the church.

In any case, I don't think Jesus would be advising you to move around, he will likely tell you you just need to pray more and your "empty" feeling comes from a lacking in your relationship with God.(him).
God=soul=every living person on the planet. Lack of relationship with God, is lack of self-awareness, self-knowledge, and most of all self-love.
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