[AttableBewNaw]

I believe...
1.UK
2.Netherlands
3.Switzerland

[theonsushv]

The UK.

[lE3l6Lgn]

I don't think you can speak of a "racially accepting people". Most people are xenophobic by default, and prefer sticking to their own. I see that is the case already with children. I go by community youth centers almost every day, and I most often see the black/immigrant children play by their own while all the blond/e children are in the woods playing hide and seek.

Most Swedes are nice to anyone who is nice to them though. But that's not equal to wanting to hang out with anyone.

I absolutely agree with you Viking on this. A lot of people may claim to be equally accepting of others, but when it comes down to it, most of it is just talk.

For example someone here pointed out that Americans seem obsessed with race, but it actually comes more from non-whites (blacks, hispanics, asians) than it does white people. In fact here most White people stand up and support non-whites, however these actions are rarely returned.

From personal observation, most white Americans do not discuss race all that often, and rarely, and I mean RARELY, ever use racist terms. However it is pretty much the norm for non-whites - in particular blacks and hispanics, to talk constantly about race, and degrade whites and at times each other. The usage of derogatory terms is pretty common from non-white Americans.

So while I'd like to say that White Americans are pretty much accepting of anyone for the most part, you'll find that there are more non-whites unaccepting of anyone but their own kind.

[LeslieMoran]

I don't know who is who in Europe but Americans seem to have the most advanced double standards. I think that Europenas have not similar double standards, but obvious problems with the present immigration. It is only the question of a different solution for the same problem. Europeans don't speak about races, Americans use words like anglos, latinos etc pointing those and them. It is strange for Europeans.

How one talks doesn't matter. Results matter.

Minorities in the U.S. live at a higher standard of living, have more political and social power, have more authority in society, are better represented in top business positions, and more educated than any minority group in Europe who is non-indigenous European.

Truth hurts, but we talk about things, because Americans are practical. We expect racism, religious discrimination, etc. So we take active steps to help decrease it as best as possible.

If you don't do census on ethnicity and race, if you don't talk about issues, you have no clue what is really happening in society.

I would rather live in a society like in America, than France, where they say everyone is equal, but it is pretty obvious non-whites are discriminated against, but you can't prove a damn thing, because there are no statistics too look at, so you can go to court and provide evidence. if someone doesn't say something directly you have no case.

Fuck that.

That tells me of a society in denial or one not actually wishing to protect its own citizens (but will talk a lot of bullshit about equality)...

Talk is not enough.

You need to "show and prove".

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I absolutely agree with you Viking on this. A lot of people may claim to be equally accepting of others, but when it comes down to it, most of it is just talk.

For example someone here pointed out that Americans seem obsessed with race, but it actually comes more from non-whites (blacks, hispanics, asians) than it does white people. In fact here most White people stand up and support non-whites, however these actions are rarely returned.

From personal observation, most white Americans do not discuss race all that often, and rarely, and I mean RARELY, ever use racist terms. However it is pretty much the norm for non-whites - in particular blacks and hispanics, to talk constantly about race, and degrade whites and at times each other. The usage of derogatory terms is pretty common from non-white Americans.

So while I'd like to say that White Americans are pretty much accepting of anyone for the most part, you'll find that there are more non-whites unaccepting of anyone but their own kind.

This is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard in my fucking life.

And you live in fucking Texas? Where?

I lived in Houston for 4 years.

How old are you? 12? Who are you associating with? Teenagers?

White people in America don't need to talk or think about race, because they are the majority. Duh. The only time the majority will obsess over another smaller weaker group is when they are literally afraid of them (hence all the Jewish hysteria). The average white man does not have to think if he walks in a job interview if he is going to be discriminated against, he rarely has to think about walking into a room and the only person who looks like him is his self and people turn around and look, he does not have to worry if someone accuses him of stealing in a store, so he might want to leave his bags at the front of the story. So yes, that is a benefit to being part of the majority, many of these things don't cross your mind.

But to pretend that all the racism is with minorities is complete and utter bullshit. Every single year there are cases of disrimination at some major company or other and it is almost always white people against some minority. I remember one case of a Hispanic suing a city because he was discriminated against by blacks, but that is VERY RARE.

Here is the situation.

10% of white Americans might be racist, maybe 20% of black Americans are.

White Americans make up about 200 million people, blacks make up 40 million.

So that means 8 million blacks are hardcore racist in a population of 300 million people, where 20 million whites are.

Then think about the chances that a white compared to a black is in a position of authority over someone of another race. Then think about how likely you are to run into the racist black or the racist white...


This is why historically racism in and of itself is not a big deal, it is the power to enforce it. You think I give a damn if I walk outside if every white person on the street "loves me" or even "likes me"? Fuck no.

My concern comes in when a white person who has power exercises that bias against me due to race in a way that hurts my standard of living. That is the issue. If that white man calls me a "nigger" or not, is immaterial. If he calls me a "nigger" at home and keeps promoting me, giving me raises, etc. Who gives a fuck? I don't want to hang out at his fucking house anyway.


You need to understand social dynamics, your understanding seems to be that of a child. Until recently, the average black man, or Hispanic, but for physically attacking a white man had next to no power over him in a society, so however racist that black man was did not matter, and the average white man did not need to think about him.

THe average black or Hispanic definitely need to think and care about what the average white person thinks and says because there are more of them in powerful positions to make decisions that will directly fuck up your life.Just in the last 40 years there have started to be minorities in those positions of power. YEs, you bet, some of them are racists, most of them are racist because of what they perceive has been done to them or their family by the majority., in the past. Is that right to discriminate against you or someone else for that reason? NOPE, it is fucking evil, but that's how people are. So those people should be punished as well.

However, to sit and say that oh it is all the "minorities" you are full of shit or fucking ignorant.

---------- Post added 2010-10-08 at 15:32 ----------

I believe...
1.UK
2.Netherlands
3.Switzerland

I would not say Switzerland.

A lot of nations go before that.

[denSmumbSes]

My concern comes in when a white person who has power exercises that bias against me due to race in a way that hurts my standard of living. That is the issue. If that white man calls me a "nigger" or not, is immaterial. If he calls me a "nigger" at home and keeps promoting me, giving me raises, etc. Who gives a fuck? I don't want to hang out at his fucking house anyway. So it is all about money, not personal relationships.

[Zaebal]

This is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard in my fucking life.

And you live in fucking Texas? Where?

I lived in Houston for 4 years.

How old are you? 12? Who are you associating with? Teenagers?

Touched a nerve did I? Haha Well wow, you lived in Houston for 4 WHOLE YEARS!!!
I've lived in Texas my whole life, I'm now in my mid 20s, and have yet to experience the so-called racism you claim you have very often. I have NEVER had problems obtaining nor keeping a Job due to race.

Perhaps the reason you had such an experience is due to your own bitter attitude.

The way you started off your post is great insight into what kinda mentality you posses. But being that I have lived in many cities in Texas, with either a large White population or large Hispanic population I can see the contrasts.

Trying to disparage my opinion based on your bigotry won't change the facts: I have witnessed and experienced more racism from non-whites than whites. Period.

Whether or not you want to accept that is your own problem.

Let me answer some of what you said quote-wise

The average white man does not have to think if he walks in a job interview if he is going to be discriminated against, he rarely has to think about walking into a room and the only person who looks like him is his self and people turn around and look, he does not have to worry if someone accuses him of stealing in a store, so he might want to leave his bags at the front of the story. So yes, that is a benefit to being part of the majority, many of these things don't cross your mind. This is bullshit and you know it. My father is probably darker than you and NO ONE watches him in stores any more than they watch me. Rather or not they are run by whites, in fact the only people I have ever noticed pay more attention (to nearly everybody) have been the people from Asia that run some shops.
On top of that I have never had any problems getting a job besides those that require the person to speak Spanish.

I have been in grocery stores where there is NOTHING but white people in a rich White part of town and besides the occasional snob or two the majority of people are very nice.

Likewise, I grew up in a nice and wealthy area, attended an all-white school, except for me, and one black kid, the rest of the school was white. Did I experience racism? NO. In fact me and my family, whom were also one of the few poor families that had children that attended were treated extremely well. And they also helped us out many of times. Yes those rich white ppl spent money on trying to help us out.

And guess what, if a store has a sign out front that says "no bags allowed", that means leave it in the front. It's your own fault if you fail to read it. I don't buy that crap of anyone singling you out.

10% of white Americans might be racist, maybe 20% of black Americans are.

White Americans make up about 200 million people, blacks make up 40 million.

So that means 8 million blacks are hardcore racist in a population of 300 million people, where 20 million whites are. I don't see the point here. Where are you getting your stats on whom is racist? I didn't know the census took that kinda data.


My concern comes in when a white person who has power exercises that bias against me due to race in a way that hurts my standard of living. That is the issue. If that white man calls me a "nigger" or not, is immaterial. If he calls me a "nigger" at home and keeps promoting me, giving me raises, etc. Who gives a fuck? I don't want to hang out at his fucking house anyway. I don't think too many people would want to hang out with you to begin with. You complain more than a woman with PMS.

You need to understand social dynamics, your understanding seems to be that of a child. Until recently, the average black man, or Hispanic, but for physically attacking a white man had next to no power over him in a society, so however racist that black man was did not matter, and the average white man did not need to think about him. Wow, what's with you and children? First you assume my age is 12, then you go on to ask if I associate with teenagers, now you're telling me my understand is that o a child's... Is this some sort of secret message you're telling us?

No, my understand comes from the fact that I deal with the public on a daily basis. And I don't let a poor ego/personality/self-esteem deter my view of the world as it really appears. I don't assume just because I didn't get that certain job it was because I'm not white.

And how recently are you talking about? And how would you know what Hispanics experience?

You need to elaborate a bit, you didn't make much sense here and I'd rather not comment on something I'm not completely understanding.

THe average black or Hispanic definitely need to think and care about what the average white person thinks and says because there are more of them in powerful positions to make decisions that will directly fuck up your life.Just in the last 40 years there have started to be minorities in those positions of power. YEs, you bet, some of them are racists, most of them are racist because of what they perceive has been done to them or their family by the majority., in the past. Is that right to discriminate against you or someone else for that reason? NOPE, it is fucking evil, but that's how people are. So those people should be punished as well. I think you think way too much and because of that you spew out the same rhetoric over and over and without even realizing it proving to everyone how prejudiced against Whites, aka Racist, you truly are.

Like I said, me, and my family has very rarely ever experienced racism from anyone besides non-whites. Sorry your experience here was unpleasant, but perhaps it was your own actions that made it so. The way you've responded was pretty immature but hey you proved my point.

[Jalieteplalry]

I would rather live in a society like in America, than France, where they say everyone is equal, but it is pretty obvious non-whites are discriminated against, but you can't prove a damn thing, because there are no statistics too look at, so you can go to court and provide evidence. if someone doesn't say something directly you have no case.

The President Nicolas Sarkozy is a half-Hungarian half-Jewish, the entire National Soccer Team is formed by Berbers, Muslims and Blacks.

The President of Martinique Serge Letchimy:
Attachment 28126
I can spend the entire day showing you pictures of "non-whites" in the power in France, more than the USA. Note that you are the only one here using the racist label of non-white. (Americans are obsessed about race)


but it is pretty obvious non-whites are discriminated against, but you can't prove a damn thing And you know that because your magic powers.


EDIT: For not French people: Martinique is a French department overseas, kinda a state in America.

[Essefsbyday]

The President Nicolas Sarkozy is a half-Hungarian half-Jewish, the entire National Soccer Team is formed by Berbers, Muslims and Blacks.

The President of Martinique Serge Letchimy:
Attachment 28126
I can spend the entire day showing you pictures of "non-whites" in the power in France, more than the USA. Note that you are the only one here using the racist label of non-white. (Americans are obsessed about race)




And you know that because your magic powers.


EDIT: For not French people: Martinique is a French department overseas, kinda a state in America.

Jew + hungarian = big nosed short white man. So what?

He is not a different "race". Different ethnicity...sure...actually he is half French (mother is french)


As far as the soccer team? Oh yeah they let blacks and arabs kick a damn ball that is some power right there...

No Americans are not obsessed with race you fucking idiot.

I am concerned with a simple truth.

If I grew up in France would I have the same opportunities to have the life style I do now, as compared to America, looking like I do.

The answer is "No".

You know that, and I know that.

People who look like me in France are numerous but don't have the power and status in the government, in business, in education, or any facet of society (but sports, as you mentioned) as people who look like me in America.

So STFU. Thanks.

You can continue to act fucking stupid if you want to, it doesn't change reality for anyone but you, because you are delusional, stupid, or you just want to troll for the sake of making Europe look better than it is.

GIve me a fucking break. Go eat some fucking Pasta and shut the fuck up.

[loyalgagora]

No Americans are not obsessed with race you fucking idiot.

Americans are obsessed with race—or, at any rate, academic Americans are.

[sigrekatonov]

Touched a nerve did I? Haha Well wow, you lived in Houston for 4 WHOLE YEARS!!!
I've lived in Texas my whole life, I'm now in my mid 20s, and have yet to experience the so-called racism you claim you have very often. I have NEVER had problems obtaining nor keeping a Job due to race.

I have lived in America my entire life in many different states beside Texas and I'm older than you. I never said I had problems keeping a job, where did you read that? English is your friend language isn't it? I've had a job since I was 16 years old. I never said I "experienced racism". Please quote when I said that. I was speaking in general at the difference in types of racism. All racism is not equal in its ability to hurt people.

So it is all about money, not personal relationships.

No you dumb fuck, it is about my ability to lead a happy life and enjoy the fruits of my labor. You truly are one of the most ignorant low IQ people I have ever met. I'm glad I know more intelligent Italians.

[grubnismarl]

Sources Jack, Sources???. Anyone can say bs here but only few can back they argument.

Jew + hungarian = big nosed short white man. So what?
He is not a different "race". Different ethnicity...sure...actually he is half French (mother is french)

What do you want a Martian?
Also he is 100% French because we dont care about race in France like you pointed (the American obsession)

As far as the soccer team? Oh yeah they let blacks and arabs kick a damn ball that is some power right there...

No, but it proves they are part of the society, Soccer is an important sport in France.
What should we give them power only because they are a minority, that is racist, also there are no minorities in France: all people is equal.

No Americans are not obsessed with race you fucking idiot.
I am concerned with a simple truth.
If I grew up in France would I have the same opportunities to have the life style I do now, as compared to America, looking like I do.
The answer is "No".

That is related to the economy, not the race.

You know that, and I know that.
People who look like me in France are numerous but don't have the power and status in the government, in business, in education, or any facet of society (but sports, as you mentioned) as people who look like me in America.
So STFU. Thanks.

Sources???? I show you the picture of the PRESIDENT of La Martinique, How many black governors do you have in America?

You can continue to act fucking stupid if you want to, it doesn't change reality for anyone but you, because you are delusional, stupid, or you just want to troll for the sake of making Europe look better than it is.
GIve me a fucking break.
Go eat some fucking Pasta and shut the fuck up.

Same for you Jack you can whine and cry all the day and it wont change the reality, you are a hater because you want to be white and you can't, get professional help you have to accept yourself as you are.

[Innockcroff]

And you know that because your magic powers.


EDIT: For not French people: Martinique is a French department overseas, kinda a state in America.

No, because French people say it, including Sarkozy's wife (one of your countrymen).

Dumb ass. She doesn't think all "French" are equal, despite the constitution, she knows that is not the reality on the street.

A manifesto published Sunday — subtitled "Oui, nous pouvons!", the French translation of Obama's campaign slogan "Yes, we can!" — urges affirmative action-like policies and other steps to turn French ideals of equality into reality for millions of blacks, Arabs and other alienated minorities.

"Our prejudices are insidious," Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, a singer and wife of President Nicolas Sarkozy, said in an interview with the Journal du Dimanche newspaper, which published the manifesto. She said she hoped the "Obama effect" would reshape French society. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27632400/

If you were better read on the situation France instead of wanting to talk out your ass you would know this.





sigh...you have anything else stupid to say?



Oh we have a black Governor, Massachusetts, which is not a majority black state, unlike Martinique. LOL

http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=gov3util...ck_welcome_msg

[welihiedginly]

No you dumb fuck, it is about my ability to lead a happy life and enjoy the fruits of my labor. You truly are one of the most ignorant low IQ people I have ever met. I'm glad I know more intelligent Italians.

So labor is not related to the Economy. Brilliant Jack brilliant.



1la·bor noun \ˈlā-bər\
Definition of LABOR
1
a : expenditure of physical or mental effort especially when difficult or compulsory
b (1) : human activity that provides the goods or services in an economy (2) : the services performed by workers for wages as distinguished from those rendered by entrepreneurs for profits

[OccumCymn]

So labor is not related to the Economy. Brilliant Jack brilliant.

This is the last time we communicate, you are a troll, pure and simple, you have absolutely no intention of having any sort of intelligent conversation you are simply here to spread propaganda for your views (which are asinine). Have fun with your mental masturbation, I have been things to do this evening (obviously you do not as it is 2:30AM in France/Italy).

[artkolkovk]

No, because French people say it, including Sarkozy's wife (one of your countrymen).

Dumb ass. She doesn't think all "French" are equal, despite the constitution, she knows that is not the reality on the street.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27632400/

1) She was talking about POOR PEOPLE not race minorities there are poor whites in France too.
2) The label "alienated minorities" is used by the MSNBC and can mean different thing not only race.
3) In the same article says:

This is the last time we communicate, you are a troll, pure and simple, you have absolutely no intention of having any sort of intelligent conversation you are simply here to spread propaganda for your views (which are asinine). Have fun with your mental masturbation, I have been things to do this evening (obviously you do not as it is 2:30AM in France/Italy).

21:30 in Buenos Aires, you see i am minority in another country and i don't cry myself all day like you. I adapt myself to the local customs like normal people do.

Good Night Jack!!! I will be waiting you to enjoy another intelligent conversation.

[Beatris]

For anyone who questions why I said Sean is a moron or a troll, read this thread, from this page, his response, mine, and Dong's...

It is quite clear he is trolling on this board.

https://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sh...diverse&page=5

[Charryith]

I don't feel the need to refute anything more you have to say JackKnightstick, your spelling and grammatical errors are far too abundant, but mainly you have are the epitome of a bigot...Which leads me to believe you are incapable of holding a valid argument without throwing personal insults around.

Btw., I'm glad you've left Texas.

You know what they say the first one to start calling names is the loser. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though. You disappoint me.

[arindiruppya]

I don't feel the need to refute anything more you have to say JackKnightstick, your spelling and grammatical errors are far too abundant, but mainly you have are the epitome of a bigot...Which leads me to believe you are incapable of holding a valid argument without throwing personal insults around.

Btw., I'm glad you've left Texas.

You know what they say the first one to start calling names is the loser. I gave you the benefit of the doubt though. You disappoint me.

LOL, I'm so very heartbroken by your disappointment.

Bitch please.

I am a bigot. You are 100% correct. I discriminate against idiots. Sorry, that's how it is. I don't apologize. I also don't give affirmative action.

The reality is that you gave up because you are incapable of refuting what I said; hell, you likely can't even understand it. Bullshit about grammar and spelling is a bitch argument to make excuses for an inability to defend a position.

Typical...typically pathetic.

NEXT...

[Badyalectlawl]

If I grew up in France would I have the same opportunities to have the life style I do now, as compared to America, looking like I do.

The answer is "No".

You know that, and I know that.

Jack, I don't know where you live and how your lifestyle is. However, if you live in the US, it's certainly very unlikely to have the same opportunities to have a lifestyle compared to America in France, having any look.

[LeviBrawn]

One should never take anything serious from a man that says stuff like "I didn't make any sense because you an idiot.".

---------- Post added 2010-10-08 at 21:09 ----------

On a further note, I'd like to add since all the so-called terrorist activities going around the world, a lot of European nations seem distrusting towards people from western Asia (eg., the middle east) and even some East Indians. They seem to fall into suspicion of being terrorists or the what not.