[HRCPda7R]

They are both half Portuguese, half black Brasilian. It's just funny because the one girl if she didn't say she was part black, no one would think it. And her mother is not a light mulatto either, she's probably 3/4 black.

If the mother was only 3/4 sub saharan african that would make both offspring 75% European. So that is overwhelmingly European.

BTW I do not consider bi racials "black".

[freevideom]

If the mother was only 3/4 sub saharan african that would make both offspring 75% European. So that is overwhelmingly European.

BTW I do not consider bi racials "black".

63% not 75%

[Soulofpostar]

What about the other one?
To me for some strange reason she looks almost Ethiopian.

Not at all. Maybe vaguely.. but just vaguely.

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Her mother is from Brasil. She has very West African features actually, you wouldn't take her for Ethiopian. Yet she has one East African looking kid and another who looks white, but her youngest daughter looks more West African plus Med.

She doesnt look horner at all.

[bushomeworkk]

I only one drop people who one drop themselves.

[SeelaypeKet]

Not at all. Maybe vaguely.. but just vaguely.

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She doesnt look horner at all.

Then what would you have thought her to be?

[wrbwrbwrb]

63% not 75%

.25 (mother is 1/4 european)+.50 (father is full european)=.75

If I got the ancestry wrong you can correct me.

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Then what would you have thought her to be?

To be honest, Im not sure. In the first picture, Id think she was just a darker skinned caribean hispanic but in the second picture she looks just biracial.

If I was friends with her I would probably ask her. She would be in the ambiguous category in my mind.

[PrareeLor]

.25 (mother is 1/4 european)+.50 (father is full european)=.75

If I got the ancestry wrong you can correct me.

Mother = 1/4 European so child gets 1/8 European from mother.
Father = 100% European so child gets half. 4/8 plus 1/8 = 5/8 or 63%.

Although the father is from Brasil too so he might have mixture you just can't see.

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To be honest, Im not sure. In the first picture, Id think she was just a darker skinned caribean hispanic but in the second picture she looks just biracial.

If I was friends with her I would probably ask her. She would be in the ambiguous category in my mind.

So you do think she looks European and West African then?

[pataagusata]

Mother = 1/4 European so child gets 1/8 European from mother.
Father = 100% European so child gets half. 4/8 plus 1/8 = 5/8 or 63%.

Although the father is from Brasil too so he might have mixture you just can't see.

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So you do think she looks European and West African then?

Oh wow... lol My math skills it seems have left me for a second there. But yea that makes sense.


Id probably range it between 55-70% european and 30-45% west african.

[qikolax]

Oh wow... lol My math skills it seems have left me for a second there. But yea that makes sense.


Id probably range it between 55-70% european and 30-45% west african.

That's probably the range she falls into. I'd say 30 something % African, 60 something % European.

[EsAllCams]

So you do think she looks European and West African then?

Yep. but Id also vouch for tri racial seeing they are from brazil.

[BinasiDombrs]

I'd bet on the father being mixed with Amerindian and not the mother. The mother looks either predominantly African or like she could be Fulani or even Igbo.

[JennaJJxoxoxo]

The following is an American perspective:

One drop is a way of simplifying complex racial realities. Most half-black people in America would rather identify with the tight-knit black community than enter some nebulous social grouping of "half-bloods." There is a need to feel a sense of belonging, and the black community is very inclusive in that regard because of the one-drop rule. It's made being white easier because everyone who's considered white is pretty much unmixed, and there's not much gray area. Whether all this is good or bad is another matter.

I don't really understand how half-black people used to "pass" in the old days and absorb themselves into the white population. I have seen blacks with lighter skin than some whites but I have always been able to tell they were "black." Maybe because of the more yellowish tint to the skin or the facial features, but I have never not been able to tell that someone wasn't "fully white." I guess this is where the old "I'm part Cherokee not part black," myth entered into the picture.

Anyway none of this is meant to be racist; it's just an honest observation.

[inchaaruutaa]

I think it depends on the country you live in. In Holland they do recognize people who are half black and half white, they call them 'half bloedjes', it literally means half bloods. It doesn't sound as bad in Dutch to be honest. They do recognize them as half, and not as just 'black'. And that is what I am used to.

Half blood sounds very degenerative, they should at least call them two blooded. And with both I am not happy, a person is what he/she identifies with. Nothing else matters

[obHQNsY2]

[QUOTE=Settler;196432]I don't really understand how half-black people used to "pass" in the old days and absorb themselves into the white population. I have seen blacks with lighter skin than some whites but I have always been able to tell they were "black." /QUOTE]


By the time people were passing, they were probably 25% black or less, had one part black parent and another white parent, and did not look discernibly part black. It would be the types who look like Mariah Carey or one of the girls I posted here, or even my mother or grandmother who would've passed.

[Casyimipist]

Half blood sounds very degenerative, they should at least call them two blooded. And with both I am not happy, a person is what he/she identifies with. Nothing else matters

Within reason.

If Esther wanted to call herself Chinese, and identified herself as such, that wouldn't be acceptable as she's not Chinese.

[Stivenslivakovishhhs]

People can claim/identify with something if it's actually part of their genetic or cultural makeup.

[Theorsell]

Within reason.

If Esther wanted to call herself Chinese, and identified herself as such, that wouldn't be acceptable as she's not Chinese.

And what if she was adopted by chinese parents? Food for thought eh?

[Obebtetibre]

Then she would be culturally Chinese but not Chinese.

Barack Obama identifies as black and he didn't know any black people until high school. To fully identify as something that you have no biological or national connection to would be just strange. To say I feel partially American because American influence is so strong where I live, or something like that, is acceptable... but a Caucasoid European person who does not live in China cannot be Chinese.

[viagraman]

Then she would be culturally Chinese but not Chinese.

Barack Obama identifies as black and he didn't know any black people until high school. To fully identify as something that you have no biological or national connection to would be just strange.

Agreed. It's like this black chick I know from the Dominican Republic who has negligible European ancestry (she looks like she could be from Senegal) yet she calls herself a "Spanish princess", and has no idea she's of African descent..

[KernJetenue]

Then she would be culturally Chinese but not Chinese.

Barack Obama identifies as black and he didn't know any black people until high school. To fully identify as something that you have no biological or national connection to would be just strange. To say I feel partially American because American influence is so strong where I live, or something like that, is acceptable... but a Caucasoid European person who does not live in China cannot be Chinese.

I think this is where I differ from you strongly you because I don't discriminate genetically, I only discriminate culturally.