[gusunsuth]

It's been noted on this forum that they're among the worst criminals in the Nordic countries, and apparently their immigrants to the United States aren't much better.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101108/...ex_trafficking

MINNEAPOLIS – Twenty-nine people have been indicted in a sex trafficking ring in which Somali gangs in Minneapolis and St. Paul allegedly forced girls under age 14 into prostitution in Minnesota, Tennessee and Ohio, according to an indictment unsealed Monday.

The 24-count indictment, unsealed in U.S. District Court in the Middle District of Tennessee, said one of the gangs' goals was recruiting females under age 18, including some under age 14, and forcing them into prostitution so the defendants could get money, marijuana or liquor.

The indictment details several instances in which young Somali or African American girls were taken from place to place and forced to engage in sex acts with multiple people. One girl was under 13 when she was first prostituted. Another girl was 18 when she was raped by multiple men in a hotel room, the indictment said.

John Morton, director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said the case is significant because the girls were repeatedly victimized over several years and transported to many places. The indictment lists incidents involving four victims.

"Human traffickers abuse innocent people, undermine our public safety, and often use their illicit proceeds to fund sophisticated criminal organizations," Morton said. "ICE is committed to bringing these criminals to justice and rescuing their victims from a life in the shadows."

Van Vincent, the Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee, wouldn't comment on the status of the girls, other than to say they were safe.

The indictment claims the ring involved three Minneapolis-based gangs — the Somali Outlaws, the Somali Mafia and the Lady Outlaws — and that all three gangs are connected. The men and women charged were either gang members or associates of the gangs, the indictment said. They range in age from 19 to 38.

The indictment says the sex trafficking ring operated for 10 years, with the defendants recruiting young girls to engage in sex acts.

One girl was just 13 when, in 2005, she was taken from the Minneapolis area to an apartment in Nashville to engage in prostitution, it said. The girl was also taken to Columbus, Ohio, and other locations for prostitution.

In another case, a girl was under age 13 when she was first forced to engage in sex acts in November 2006. Two defendants had sex with her the next month at an apartment in St. Paul, and then other males arrived and were charged money to do the same, the indictment said. That scenario happened on many occasions.

The indictment refers to the girl as Jane Doe Two. The Associated Press does not identify victims of sex crimes.

"Jane Doe Two was informed ... that selling Jane Doe Two for sex would be called a 'Mission.' It was a rule that members of the (gangs) would not be charged for sex with Jane Doe Two as they were fellow gang members," the indictment said.

One defendant, Haji Osman Salad, nicknamed "Hollywood," later made Jane Doe Two "his girl," picking her up from school, engaging in sex acts with her, and then instructing her to engage in sex acts with other men, the indictment said.

Over the course of two-day period in April 2009, the girl was forced to engage in sex acts at least 10 times with nine different men, it said. Then, she was driven to Nashville. On the way there, Salad made a cell phone video of her engaging in sex acts with some of the occupants of the vehicle, the indictment said.

Seventeen people were arrested in Minnesota, nine were arrested in Tennessee and three were at large Monday evening, St. Paul Police Chief Tom Smith said.

Elders in St. Paul's Somali community began approaching law enforcement officers in 2007 and 2008 with concerns that young girls were being trafficked, Smith said.

Those eventually charged traveled easily between Nashville and St. Paul, and some may have been related, said Jerry Martin, the U.S. attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee. Both cities, as well as Columbus, have large Somali refugee populations.

Along with sex trafficking, the indictment charges some of the defendants with conspiring to obstruct the investigation by lying to a federal grand jury. It also alleges some stole a motor vehicle, committed burglaries, and engaged in credit card fraud — causing one credit card company to lose $231,000 over a one-year period.

Omar Jamal, an advocate for Somalis in Minnesota, said the allegations shocked the Somali community, whose members pointed out Islam forbids such activity.

"Collectively, they might have been in denial that such grave sex minor trade could ever be going on in the community," he said. "It's a kind of crime that a community can never think of their kids as being capable of doing this. ... People are saying, 'How could this be? How could such a thing happen?'" Is there something about Somali clan culture that makes them indifferent to following laws, or makes them prone to commit violent acts?

Please don't let this degenerate into a racist, anti-black clusterfuck. There's a huge difference between Somalis and other Africans.

[deackatera]

It's probably a mix of their tribal clan culture, pre-Abrahamic Afro-asiatic pagan religions, militant Islam, brutal negro influences from other parts of Africa and of course inestability in their country/constant state of war.

[Carfanate]

Blame it on the Italian colonialist pigs!

[StivRichardOff]

Blame it on the Italian colonialist pigs!

Hey, as much as I think the Italian colonial empire sucked, if the Somalis were busy fighting a war of liberation, maybe they wouldn't be ruining Western countries and would stay in their own shithole.

[iNYZgxNC]

Hey, as much as I think the Italian colonial empire sucked, if the Somalis were busy fighting a war of liberation, maybe they wouldn't be ruining Western countries and would stay in their own shithole.

[VladFal]

Hey you Italian piece of s***, the largest diaspora of Somalis lives in the U.S. You haven't heard of a single thing about them since they started immigrating there in the early 80's and 90's and now some dubious prostitution ring means that all of them are criminals LOLZ fucking pathetic man. Prostitution is not something we as Somalis are known for, we might be known for a lot of shit but prostitution is sure not fucking one of them specially considering we are conservative Muslims. One time we are labelled as terrorist fanatic muslims next minute we are prostitutes, fucking be CONSISTENT at least you morons. Uhh...I'm so tired of the constant anti-Somali crap posted in here man, it's so annoying.

[avodeinst]

Then hop aboard your pirate ship and meet me at the Jersey Shore. Pistolas at dawn.

[Retapleapse]

Respect your masters' authority, you skinny bitch! lol

[Twelearly]

Europeans destroyed Africa, I dont know why you guys complain about them.

[easypokergonj]

You're so right. Before Europeans arrived, African civilization was the envy of the world.

[Barbshowers]

It's been noted on this forum that they're among the worst criminals in the Nordic countries, and apparently their immigrants to the United States aren't much better.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101108/...ex_trafficking



Is there something about Somali clan culture that makes them indifferent to following laws, or makes them prone to commit violent acts?

Please don't let this degenerate into a racist, anti-black clusterfuck. There's a huge difference between Somalis and other Africans.

Oh the irony a Sicilian throwing stones Mafia ring a bell moron

[fuslkdhfma]

You're so right. Before Europeans arrived, African civilization was the envy of the world.

It really was, in the eyes of Rome and Greece... Africans were far more superior to their Iberian, Western/Central/Eastern/Northern European counterparts. And supposedly, the gods often ate among the "Ethiopian" (Sudan). They were also supposedly blessed with intelligence and beauty.

East Africa:
Egypt, Kush, and Aksum for example were constantly mentioned by both Southwest Asian and Southern European authors and travelers for being uniquely advanced and obviously powerful.

"To the ancient Mediterranean world, the land south of Egypt was a territory of mystery and legend. Wealth and exotic products came from there. It was the home of the Ethiopians, whom Homer called blameless and stories about its great achievements endured to tantalize the modern world. "

"Ancient Egypt is the first major civilisation in Africa for which records are abundant. It was not, however, Africa's first kingdom. On 1 March 1979, The New York Times carried an article on its front page, written by Boyce Rensberger, with the headline: Nubian Monarchy called Oldest. In the article, Rensberger told the world that: "Evidence of the oldest recognisable monarchy in human history, preceding the rise of the earliest Egyptian kings by several generations, has been discovered in artifacts from ancient Nubia... The discovery is expected to stimulate a new appraisal of the origins of civilisations in Africa, raising the question of 'to what extent later Egyptian culture derived …"

"Recent discoveries, in and around the area of Sembel, near the capital Asmara, show evidence of a society that predated Aksum. These permanent villages and towns predate those of southern Eritrea and northern Ethiopia suggesting, according to Peter Schmidt."

^"it is they (Eritrean Site), not sites in Arabia that were the vital precursors to urban developments, likewise students of evolution and distribution of languages now believe that Semitic and Cushitic languages are of African origin." - Daniel haile Kurkahh.

"Although the exact location of Punt is still uncertain,
most scholars today do however agree that Punt was
located in much of Eritrea and eastern Sudan. In fact,
evidence confirms that an interchange circuit between
Ancient Egypt and modern Eritrea did take place. At
Agordat in the middle Barka valley of Eritrea, an
Egyption Style,Ceramic ear-plug and some stone
celts which imitate bronze prototypes of the 17-18th
dynasties of Egypt have been excavated that date
between mid-second millennium BC. On the Eritrean
coast at Adulis, two fragments of glass vessels typical
the New Kingdom of Egypt have been found in a level
dating to the late second millennium BC."

Source: Encyclopedia of the Archaeology of Ancient Egypt By Kathryn A.
, Steven Blake Shubert. P. 637

"Beginning in the 3rd millennium BC, complex societies and states arose in the northern Horn of Africa. This process culminated with the development of the Kingdom of Aksum in northern Ethiopia and Eritrea in the 1st millennium AD. The development of these polities can be outlined in principle on the basis of the archaeological evidence. The process consisted of at least two distinct trajectories to social complexity, indirectly related to each other in the Eritrean–Sudanese lowlands and the Eritrean Ethiopian highlands, respectively, with a shift in the location of complex societies from the lowlands to the highlands in the early 1st millennium BC. This shift was due to changes in the general pattern of interregional contacts between the regions facing the Mediterranean Sea and Indian Ocean along the Nile Valley, Red Sea and western Arabia from the 4th millennium BC to the 1st millennium AD."

The Development of Ancient States in the Northern Horn
of Africa, c. 3000 BC–AD 1000: An Archaeological Outline

"Under Ezana Aksum became the first major empire to convert to Christianity and was named by Mani as one of the four great powers of his time along with Persia, Rome, and China."

West Africa:

In addition to the Nile Valley and Eritrea-Ethiopia, civilization started quite early in the Western Sudan (West Africa)

"Descended from ancient Central Saharan people, akin to the Bafour or Imraguen of Mauritania, the Mandé are an identifiable group of peoples spread throughout the West Africa. They are known as having been among the first on the continent to produce woven textiles (by a process known as strip-weaving), and as the founders of the Ghana Empire and Mali Empire, as well as being responsible for the expansion of the Songhai Empire across West Africa. However, archaeological testimony also supports that they were among the first peoples on the continent, outside the Nile region and Ethiopia, to produce stone settlement civilizations. These were built on the rocky promontories of the Tichitt-Walata and Tagant cliffs of Southern Mauritania between ca. 2000 and 700 BC., likely by a sub-group of the(Mande speaking) Soninke, where hundreds of stone masonry settlements, with clear street layouts, have been found. Some settlements had massive surrounding walls, while others were less fortified. In a deteriorating environment, where arable land and pasturage were at a premium, the population grew and relatively large-scale political organizations and, ultimately, military hierarchical aristocracies emerged. With a mixed farming economy—millet production combined with the rearing of livestock —this copper-based agro-pastoral society traded in jewelry and semi-precious stones from distant parts of the Sahara and Sahel. They are also believed to be the first to domesticate African rice. In the words of one archaeologist, these abandoned sites represent “a great wealth of rather spectacular prehistoric ruins” and “perhaps the most remarkable group of Neolithic settlements in the world” (Mauny 1971: 70)."

"The Mali Empire or Mandingo Empire or Manden Kurufa was a West African empire of the Mandinka from c. 1230 to c. 1600. The empire was founded by Sundiata Keita and became renowned for the wealth of its rulers, especially Mansa Musa I. The Mali Empire had many profound cultural influences on West Africa, allowing the spread of its language, laws and customs along the Niger River. The Mali empire extended over a large area and consisted of numerous vassal kingdoms and provinces."

"The Kouroukan Fouga or Kurukan Fuga is purported to be the constitution of the Mali Empire (mid-thirteenth century to c. 1645), created after the Battle of Krina by an assembly of notables to create a government for the newly established empire. It was first alluded to in print in Djibril Tamsir Niane's book, Soundjata, ou la Epoupée Mandingue.[1] Subsequently versions of it were published in Mandinka and translated by Youssouf Cissé into French in 1991,[2] and finally, a version of compiled in 1998 by a group of traditional historians as well as modern linguists."

"The Nok culture appeared in Nigeria around 1000 B.C. and mysteriously vanished around 500 AD in the region of West Africa. This region lies in Central Nigeria. The culture’s social system is thought to have been highly advanced. The Nok culture was considered to be the earliest sub-Saharan producer of life-sized Terracotta. Nok culture terracottas are heralded as the prime evidence of pre colonial civilization in sub saharan Africa, and it is suggested that the society eventually evolved into the later Yoruba Kingdom of Ife."

Southeast Africa:
More recent evidence indicates an extensive trade network between the Somali coast/Swahili coast/larger South African complex and India and China. It was mutual by the way, and there was no one up on the other... other than the fact that the majority of the middle men or marine travelers were of African origin.

"Archaeologist, Felix Chami notes the presence of Bantu settlements straddling the East African coast as early as the beginning of the 1st millennium. They evolved gradually from the 6th century onward to accommodate for an increase in trade (mainly with Arab merchants), population growth, and further centralised urbanisation; developing into what would later become known as the Swahili City-States."

"For centuries the Swahili depended greatly on trade from the Indian Ocean. The Swahili have played a vital role as middle man between east, central and south Africa, and the outside world. Trade contacts have been noted as early as 100 A.D. by early Roman writers who visited the East African coast in the first century. Trade routes extended across Tanzania into modern day Democratic Republic of the Congo, along which goods were brought to the coasts and were sold to Arab, Indian, and Portuguese traders and even reached as far as China and India. Materials attributed to this network of trade were also found at Great Zimbabwe."

And so fourth in the remainder of the African continent in the Maghreb, Central, and South Africa.

Civilization in Europe was confined to "Italy" and the southern Balkans, up until the Romanization of much of Europe... and even then Europe was for the most part a backwater in comparison to the rest of the world up until the Renaissance (500 years ago), which was obviously influenced by Muslim societies in Africa and SW Asia.

Crete isn't even bioculturally European but it's often used as the one of the only earliest centers of civilization in Europe. And even in regard to Crete... Ta-Seti had already vanished, Egypt, Kerma, Punt, Yam/Darfur, and the Western Sudanic complex where already old.

African history is just now being rewritten with all the evidence being uncovered recently.

[Evelinessa]

Alfieb, what do you expect? They are African and they are Black.

[GooogleGuy]

^ You forgot the bit when the Romans came and destroyed the sphynx's nose because it looked negroid.

[emorbimefed]

I feel sorry for the girls.

[RgtrsKfR]

It really was, in the eyes of Rome and Greece... Africans were far more superior to their Iberian, Western/Central/Eastern/Northern European counterparts. And supposedly, the gods often ate among the "Ethiopian" (Sudan). They were also supposedly blessed with intelligence and beauty.

East Africa:
Egypt, Kush, and Aksum for example were constantly mentioned by both Southwest Asian and Southern European authors and travelers for being uniquely advanced and obviously powerful.

"To the ancient Mediterranean world, the land south of Egypt was a territory of mystery and legend. Wealth and exotic products came from there. It was the home of the Ethiopians, whom Homer called blameless and stories about its great achievements endured to tantalize the modern world. "

"Ancient Egypt is the first major civilisation in Africa for which records are abundant. It was not, however, Africa's first kingdom. On 1 March 1979, The New York Times carried an article on its front page, written by Boyce Rensberger, with the headline: Nubian Monarchy called Oldest. In the article, Rensberger told the world that: "Evidence of the oldest recognisable monarchy in human history, preceding the rise of the earliest Egyptian kings by several generations, has been discovered in artifacts from ancient Nubia... The discovery is expected to stimulate a new appraisal of the origins of civilisations in Africa, raising the question of 'to what extent later Egyptian culture derived …"

"Recent discoveries, in and around the area of Sembel, near the capital Asmara, show evidence of a society that predated Aksum. These permanent villages and towns predate those of southern Eritrea and northern Ethiopia suggesting, according to Peter Schmidt."

^"it is they (Eritrean Site), not sites in Arabia that were the vital precursors to urban developments, likewise students of evolution and distribution of languages now believe that Semitic and Cushitic languages are of African origin." - Daniel haile Kurkahh.

"Although the exact location of Punt is still uncertain,
most scholars today do however agree that Punt was
located in much of Eritrea and eastern Sudan. In fact,
evidence confirms that an interchange circuit between
Ancient Egypt and modern Eritrea did take place. At
Agordat in the middle Barka valley of Eritrea, an
Egyption Style,Ceramic ear-plug and some stone
celts which imitate bronze prototypes of the 17-18th
dynasties of Egypt have been excavated that date
between mid-second millennium BC. On the Eritrean
coast at Adulis, two fragments of glass vessels typical
the New Kingdom of Egypt have been found in a level
dating to the late second millennium BC."

Source: Encyclopedia of the Archaeology of Ancient Egypt By Kathryn A.
, Steven Blake Shubert. P. 637

"Beginning in the 3rd millennium BC, complex societies and states arose in the northern Horn of Africa. This process culminated with the development of the Kingdom of Aksum in northern Ethiopia and Eritrea in the 1st millennium AD. The development of these polities can be outlined in principle on the basis of the archaeological evidence. The process consisted of at least two distinct trajectories to social complexity, indirectly related to each other in the Eritrean–Sudanese lowlands and the Eritrean Ethiopian highlands, respectively, with a shift in the location of complex societies from the lowlands to the highlands in the early 1st millennium BC. This shift was due to changes in the general pattern of interregional contacts between the regions facing the Mediterranean Sea and Indian Ocean along the Nile Valley, Red Sea and western Arabia from the 4th millennium BC to the 1st millennium AD."

The Development of Ancient States in the Northern Horn
of Africa, c. 3000 BC–AD 1000: An Archaeological Outline

"Under Ezana Aksum became the first major empire to convert to Christianity and was named by Mani as one of the four great powers of his time along with Persia, Rome, and China."

West Africa:

In addition to the Nile Valley and Eritrea-Ethiopia, civilization started quite early in the Western Sudan (West Africa)

"Descended from ancient Central Saharan people, akin to the Bafour or Imraguen of Mauritania, the Mandé are an identifiable group of peoples spread throughout the West Africa. They are known as having been among the first on the continent to produce woven textiles (by a process known as strip-weaving), and as the founders of the Ghana Empire and Mali Empire, as well as being responsible for the expansion of the Songhai Empire across West Africa. However, archaeological testimony also supports that they were among the first peoples on the continent, outside the Nile region and Ethiopia, to produce stone settlement civilizations. These were built on the rocky promontories of the Tichitt-Walata and Tagant cliffs of Southern Mauritania between ca. 2000 and 700 BC., likely by a sub-group of the(Mande speaking) Soninke, where hundreds of stone masonry settlements, with clear street layouts, have been found. Some settlements had massive surrounding walls, while others were less fortified. In a deteriorating environment, where arable land and pasturage were at a premium, the population grew and relatively large-scale political organizations and, ultimately, military hierarchical aristocracies emerged. With a mixed farming economy—millet production combined with the rearing of livestock —this copper-based agro-pastoral society traded in jewelry and semi-precious stones from distant parts of the Sahara and Sahel. They are also believed to be the first to domesticate African rice. In the words of one archaeologist, these abandoned sites represent “a great wealth of rather spectacular prehistoric ruins” and “perhaps the most remarkable group of Neolithic settlements in the world” (Mauny 1971: 70)."

"The Mali Empire or Mandingo Empire or Manden Kurufa was a West African empire of the Mandinka from c. 1230 to c. 1600. The empire was founded by Sundiata Keita and became renowned for the wealth of its rulers, especially Mansa Musa I. The Mali Empire had many profound cultural influences on West Africa, allowing the spread of its language, laws and customs along the Niger River. The Mali empire extended over a large area and consisted of numerous vassal kingdoms and provinces."

"The Kouroukan Fouga or Kurukan Fuga is purported to be the constitution of the Mali Empire (mid-thirteenth century to c. 1645), created after the Battle of Krina by an assembly of notables to create a government for the newly established empire. It was first alluded to in print in Djibril Tamsir Niane's book, Soundjata, ou la Epoupée Mandingue.[1] Subsequently versions of it were published in Mandinka and translated by Youssouf Cissé into French in 1991,[2] and finally, a version of compiled in 1998 by a group of traditional historians as well as modern linguists."

"The Nok culture appeared in Nigeria around 1000 B.C. and mysteriously vanished around 500 AD in the region of West Africa. This region lies in Central Nigeria. The culture’s social system is thought to have been highly advanced. The Nok culture was considered to be the earliest sub-Saharan producer of life-sized Terracotta. Nok culture terracottas are heralded as the prime evidence of pre colonial civilization in sub saharan Africa, and it is suggested that the society eventually evolved into the later Yoruba Kingdom of Ife."

Southeast Africa:
More recent evidence indicates an extensive trade network between the Somali coast/Swahili coast/larger South African complex and India and China. It was mutual by the way, and there was no one up on the other... other than the fact that the majority of the middle men or marine travelers were of African origin.

"Archaeologist, Felix Chami notes the presence of Bantu settlements straddling the East African coast as early as the beginning of the 1st millennium. They evolved gradually from the 6th century onward to accommodate for an increase in trade (mainly with Arab merchants), population growth, and further centralised urbanisation; developing into what would later become known as the Swahili City-States."

"For centuries the Swahili depended greatly on trade from the Indian Ocean. The Swahili have played a vital role as middle man between east, central and south Africa, and the outside world. Trade contacts have been noted as early as 100 A.D. by early Roman writers who visited the East African coast in the first century. Trade routes extended across Tanzania into modern day Democratic Republic of the Congo, along which goods were brought to the coasts and were sold to Arab, Indian, and Portuguese traders and even reached as far as China and India. Materials attributed to this network of trade were also found at Great Zimbabwe."

And so fourth in the remainder of the African continent in the Maghreb, Central, and South Africa.

Civilization in Europe was confined to "Italy" and the southern Balkans, up until the Romanization of much of Europe... and even then Europe was for the most part a backwater in comparison to the rest of the world up until the Renaissance (500 years ago), which was obviously influenced by Muslim societies in Africa and SW Asia.

Crete isn't even bioculturally European but it's often used as the one of the only earliest centers of civilization in Europe. And even in regard to Crete... Ta-Seti had already vanished, Egypt, Kerma, Punt, Yam/Darfur, and the Western Sudanic complex where already old.

African history is just now being rewritten with all the evidence being uncovered recently.

Then how come these uncivilized Gauls and Brits and Picts and Iberians inferior to Africans came to Africa, enslaved you and fucked you all over for cheap workforce?

[yurawerj]

Alfieb, what do you expect? They are African and they are Black.

and they're muslim. So they're irrational unstable impoverished people from a third world country with nothing to lose. Why would they follow the law

[77chawzence]

The topic title is purposely misleading and very trollish, what else could we expect from our resident wog alfieb.

[Zjohkrbi]

Then how come these uncivilized Gauls and Brits and Picts and Iberians inferior to Africans came to Africa, enslaved you and fucked you all over for cheap workforce?

The balance of power always eventually tips. 500 years of slavery and 100 years of colonialism is relatively small chronologically and prior to that 450 years, Europeans were not only colonized by Africans in Iberia and Southern Europe and by SW Asians/Central Asians in the Balkans and Eastern Europe, they also represented the majority of the slaves in the Med. and SW Asia for some 1000 years in regard non-European powers and even longer in regard to Rome and so fourth. Slav = Slave.

Both your men and women where used for passive fuck buddies by not only your fellow swarthy Southern Europeans... but Africans, SW Asians, and Central Asians alike.

[soitlyobserty]

The balance of power always eventually tips. 500 years of slavery and 100 years of colonialism is relatively small chronologically and prior to that 450 years, Europeans were not only colonized by Africans in Iberia and Southern Europe and by SW Asians/Central Asians in the Balkans and Eastern Europe, they also represented the majority of the slaves in the Med. and SW Asia for some 1000 years in regard non-European powers and even longer in regard to Rome and so fourth. Slav = Slave.

Both your men and women where used for passive fuck buddies by not only your fellow swarthy Southern Europeans... but Africans, SW Asians, and Central Asians alike.

Not really.

And I'm not a slav. Slav is actually a slavic root (surprise surprise) and it doesn't mean Slave. No relation to latin esclavus nigga.

BTW... these who conquered Iberia, in powerforce weren't Africans but Arabs directly from the peninsula with an army from North Africa, that in your Afro-centrist dreams you lump them with all other Africans in your dreams.

Sorry nigga, the voice of truth has spoken. No nigga ever conquered Europe and North African aren't niggas.

No damn Zulu enslaved no white man